Fat People

Guest Post by The Zman

Last month when I was in line waiting to vote, I spotted an extremely fat woman. She was so fat, her ankles rubbed together. Judging by the three gallon bucket of soda pop in her hand, I’m assuming she was not the victim of elephantiasis or some other disease. Everything about her was fat, even her head, which was the size of a bowling ball and covered in pink-dyed fur. How she was able to get around with hundreds of pounds of fat attached to her is a mystery. I would think the mere act of toting around so much weight would result in weight loss.

Last week, I stopped at the ghetto market for a few items and spotted a couple in the snack aisle. The man was something like a large ball with arms and legs. I estimated his diameter was close to 24 inches. That would mean his belt was 75 inches. His wife was of similar size. My first thought was how they were able to, you know, enjoy the marital bed. Is it even possible that they find one another attractive? I suppose it is possible that all of their energies are focused on moving around their girth and finding enough food to maintain their weight so sex is a non-issue.

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Anyone familiar with American poverty knows that our poor people are fat, very fat. There are exceptions like drug addicts or those spindly ectomorphs you see loitering on street corners. Black woman, of course, are almost always fat. This is something most everyone knows. The ancients drew images of African women with giant stomachs and buttocks. In all probability, this is a genetic issue with West Africans. Even so, across the ethnic spectrum, American poor people are fat. Even our Mexicans are fat now.

In fact, Mexico is the world’s fattest country. This is mostly likely due to the fact that food is cheaper now than at any time in human history. It’s extremely hard to starve your people these days. Food is just too cheap and plentiful. Even basket case countries like those in sub-Saharan Africa have more than enough food. That’s most likely the cause of the population boom in Africa. The Malthusian limit has been pushed much further out so the population has exploded.

Public health officials tell us that obesity is a crisis in America. Being fat supposedly results in an exploding number of maladies like diabetes and heart disease. This drives up health costs thus collapsing the technocratic schemes cooked up by the managerial class. It’s important to remember that public health officials are usually wrong. For example, they said AIDS would jump from the bathhouse and heroin den into the middle-class suburbs. That never came closer to happening.

Even if obesity is a public health problem, it’s unlikely that there can be a public policy to address it, other than deliberate starvation of the people. Our Germans probably have the same obesity rates as Germans in Europe. The same is true across the ethnic landscape. We’re forbidden to notice that blacks and Mexicans are very fat, compared to everyone else. That means we’re forbidden to note that honky obesity rates are not too far off from Europeans rates. That would be racist and everyone knows race does not exist.

The point of this observation is to note that biology is beyond the reach of public policy. If fatness has some serious detriments to the population, then it will sort itself out over time. If fatness becomes associated with low status people, then there will be cultural pressure to not be fat. Smoking rates have declined not so much due to public policy, but from the fact famous people stopped smoking. It stopped being cool with famous people. Fatness will follow a similar path. We are seeing that with black actresses and singers.

Still, humans have never had to deal with the problems that come from too much food and too much free time to consume it. We really have no idea what will come from it and how it will hurt or help society. There could very well be a huge upside to having lots of fat people. Perhaps when the zombie apocalypse comes, the zombies will eat the fat people and be satisfied, leaving the rest of us to regroup. That’s unlikely, but nature tends not to reward that which is deleterious to a species. Nature is self-correcting.

There’s no reason to think that public policy in a liberal democracy would be capable of addressing problems that stem from excess. Liberal democracy evolved in an age of great inequality and scarcity. Having a super rich aristocracy could not work while the peasants were starving. We now have a mega-rich aristocracy while the peasants are munching snacks and playing video games. They are doing these things at public expense. The bottom half of America is receiving direct and indirect public assistance these days.

Would the super-rich aristocracy of today have the will to impose rules on the bottom half, with regards to their welfare? Mayor Bloomberg came the closest with his soda and salt bans, but they went no where. Even his peers snickered at his prudery. Would these same people be willing to back exercise requirements and fitness exams in exchange for welfare benefits? Probably not. A feature of the modern aristocracy and their attendants in the managerial elite is a fear of confrontation. Hence the passive-aggressive culture of the rich.

We’ll just have to rely on nature to solve the obesity problem.

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KaD
KaD
December 11, 2016 7:41 pm

“Would these same people be willing to back exercise requirements and fitness exams in exchange for welfare benefits?”

That seems extreme. If we’re going to be doling out to these people for most of their lives, isn’t it in our best interests that they live shorter lives? Unfortunately, even with shortened lives they seem to be taking an inordinate amount of the health care money too.

barefoot
barefoot
  KaD
December 12, 2016 8:03 am

Health care? These are truly cash cows. Milking them with disease management techniques that never fix anything but only add up over time. And they still tend to live to retirement age and beyond.

You guys talk about all the individual societal things with such passion here but the truth is that on a grand scale winter is coming, as Game of Thrones(watch it) would say it.

Bottom 50 that are morbidly obese, disabled, otherwise on the take, they probably number close to 80 million adults in this country alone.
The incredible numbers that we deal with in this modern techno fascist system are difficult to grasp.

We know by the sky spraying, disease management, tv programming, the way they kill both in war and by secret, that it’s clear the kings despise and want dead the peasants. They are so rich and have such advanced technology that I can’t see where they keep wasting resources. The population cannot be allowed to reach ten billion or more in the age of energy and comfort. If it does nature will correct things, so it’s just a question of whether man or nature culls the vast horde.

If you haven’t yet reached old age it’s a good chance you will see winter in your lifetime. Things are going to change and those that have prepared themselves stand the best chance of surviving it.

Bob
Bob
December 11, 2016 7:54 pm

Actually it is the food here that is the problem. Corn is subsidized and that makes sugar almost free, so the food industry puts it in about 80% of the products in the super market.
Animals are also feed corn and antibiotics and/or hormones for rapid growth, which are very likely to carry on in our food…
Oh, and cooking at home is a thing for rich people as the ingredients alone are more expensive than the ready-made and full of sugar and chemicals foods.
Laugh now if you’re skinny, chances are you’ll die from metabolic syndrome related diseases, and the next generation will do even worse.

Unemaciated
Unemaciated
December 11, 2016 7:56 pm

I once knew a guy whose Mamma was so fat she needed a bookmark to find her chin. Word was she could take a shower without getting her feet wet and her belly button actually had an echo.

Ticky Toc
Ticky Toc
  Unemaciated
December 12, 2016 12:38 pm

His Mama was so fat that whenever she wore a yellow dress kids would climb on top of her to go to school.

iconoclast421
iconoclast421
December 11, 2016 8:18 pm

Obesity is a result of public policy. The food pyramid is both deeply institutionalized and deeply flawed. People eat sugars and starches (which is really just more sugar) and they just keep eating because sugars dont satiate. Eggs, cheeses, nuts, fatty meats, those foods satiate hunger for longer periods of time. Yet animal fatophobia is institutionalized. Yet it is literally the best base for our diet. Starches cooked in PUFAs are the absolute worst things to eat, yet they are hugely popularized. French fries are absolute poison. Yet not 1 in 100 people sees them for what they are. Why not have cyanide laced snacks for sale in the junk food aisle? They’d fit right in.

Stucky
Stucky
  iconoclast421
December 11, 2016 8:25 pm

” French fries are absolute poison. ”

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!!!!!

French fries —–potato is a veggie and veggies are good for ya ….. cooked in VEGETABLE oil, m-m-m-m-good, moar veggies ………. it’s a fucken HEALTH Food, you lyin’ dweeb!!

javelin
javelin
  Stucky
December 11, 2016 9:09 pm

And by that logic, swimming must be a terrible way to try and get fit–after all, whales spend their entire lives swimming and they are covered in blubber.

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 5:41 am

Jeebus Fuggen Kristmas!

I have written numerous articles on healthy eating …. so, I’m thinking that me calling french fries healthy was kinda fucken funny.

But, I guess not.

This joint ain’t what it used to be. Fun. Ya’ll can go shove a french fry up your prudish asses for all I care.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 8:29 am

Stucky

Some folks get triggered by toast getting burnt. Fuck even a shithead like me can tell you are just yanking a chain or two. Imagine if they saw an Image of Jesus Khrist in their bowl of Corn Flakes. They would absolutely lose their shit.

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Besides chances are Javelin is a fat lard ass anyways. Likely spent the whole day watching football, drinking beer and eating Cheetoos. And now feeling guilty and self conscious about his poor life choices decides to be a white knight for the health. Or maybe he just can’t take a fucken’ joke.

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Javelin and Barefoot cuddling for Sunday Night!

javelin
javelin
  RiNS
December 13, 2016 8:18 am

I was playing off of Stucky’s joke dumbass…..my tongue-in-cheek humor must be a little high brow for ya.

RiNS
RiNS
  javelin
December 13, 2016 10:16 am

That’s what I thought javelin. Fuck man. I just thought I’d pile on. Then barefoot goes full potato after I call him a cuck. Fuck sakes! I thought I was being funny. I guess not.

Stucky is right.

Jason Calley
Jason Calley
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 8:48 am

Shoestring cut, or those big crinkly ones? Makes a difference…

RiNS
RiNS
  Jason Calley
December 12, 2016 9:01 am

I’m thinking crinkly in the case of barefoot. Being crinkly perfectly compliments being a cuck.

barefoot
barefoot
  RiNS
December 12, 2016 9:29 am

Really makes this site look good and credible. It’s a shame these threads are often filled with trash aimed at others who value the useful ideas on this site. I can’t even imagine being so miserable as to just talk shit about others while adding no value to anything. Good luck beating the fascists with such ill mindsets even amongst those who would claim to not be asleep.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 9:43 am

so you like shoestring instead?
ya fathead.
You wish to make this site credible
Right now for you it isn’t edible
That said
So solly that you feel sad
But I can’t help it really
I am bad.

barefoot
barefoot
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 9:50 am

I thank you for your contributions toward a meaningful conversation. They will provide great value to me going forward. I would be lost without your valuable insights this morning.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 10:32 am

My pleasure I am just reciprocating your stupidity. Your post wasn’t meaningful. Sounds to me like your attitude falls into same category as the fake news crowd on their knees in front of Hillary. If you think you are smarter than everyone else then why in the fuck are you here? I mean that seriously. Stucky was trying to be funny but that ain’t okay with you. So exactly what do you propose to make things meaningful. A TBP censor? Ya like admin has time to police sensibilities around here. Sounds to me like you are the facist. By the way the limerick sucked because you ain’t worth the effort.

So you want to be Mr. Serious the Barefooted. Turn this place into a library of quiet reverence for the great sages of our age. I suppose that would include you. Well it ain’t happening.

Your attitude sucks. You no doubt would be one of those Obergruppenführers that rounded up wrong thinkers in Nazi Europe during WW2. Better for you to take your safe space and move along to huffpo. They will love your brand.

You can complain as much as you want. I want to…

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I like irreverence. It reassures me that I am still free.

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 10:56 am

Thanks Rob! (RiNS)

Hey Barefoot …….. ya didn’t know I have friends here who got my back, did ya? hahahahahahaha!

Quit being such a pussy. Really. Do you need a safe space? Then crawl up my ass… nothing ever goes up there. There are two awesome things about TBP;

1—- it’s a tremendous source of info from some really smart people

2—- it’s a place to have FUN and to be IRREVERENT

So, chill the fuck out.

barefoot
barefoot
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 11:56 am

I guess both of you missed that I said irreverence is good and being an asshole and throwing shit is not the same thing. Neither of you are calm and are both looking to lash out at any opportunity. It’s boring and sad. If I knew it all I wouldn’t be here.

I’m on the side of the good info here and funny jokes. Not the shit Rob is droning on about. Rob, seriously? That you are able to know me so well is astounding, your gifts are many.

Offer an opinion that we could do better than ignorant vulgarity in the comments and people start crying. Both mention irreverence when it was part of my original post. Get a clue and quit being such assholes to the other people here. And ignore the trolls. I didn’t say you couldn’t be the biggest asshole your heart desires. Just that it’s boring and takes away from why most are here.

Oh dear lord I’m a fascist, hillary loving, safe space snowflake. Great stuff fellas.

barefoot
barefoot
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 12:09 pm

As far as I can tell javelin only continued your sarcastic joke. You are the one that took offense and said to shove things and calling prude. Then Rob went off his meds and now you both think you are arguing with me when I agree with with both of your statements on a variety of topics here. The emotional responses and eagerness to resort to throwing shit? Your life empty without being able to make yourself feel superior by belittling people you don’t know?

Fascist? Closer to a Buddhist. You know nothing, Jon Snow.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 12:26 pm

Fuck you are a tard!

I didn’t go “off the meds” until after you posted that second piece of tripe. I was trying to be sarcastic as well. Geebers Xmas I was trying to be funny and you get all butthurt. You are an idiot!

And yeah I like throwing heaps a shit at people who deserve it. You being one.

Get off your high horse or Kharma is going to bite you in the ass.

barefoot
barefoot
  RiNS
December 12, 2016 12:53 pm

Ah yes, the combined insult of me and javelin followed by another at me. I forgot that personal derogatory comments towards strangers are just fun sarcasm. I prefer constructive interactions. I beg your forgiveness.

I’m not hurt, what you say means nothing to me. My intent was and only has been to point out that people here share common interests and there are better ways to be funny or to release anger than insulting people here.

Now it seems you just need to be right. Go ahead let it out. I’ll be your target, maybe you’ll feel better after you say a few more bad things about me. I’m not here cuz I like to call people cucks and Nazis.

Whatever makes you happy, stranger. I just want to focus on the positives of this site without having to see unnecessary shit all over the walls. I look forward to being called dumb again, cuz if I’m anything it is certainly that.

barefoot
barefoot
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 12:27 pm

Lastly, I know well who Stir Shit Stucky is around here. I’ve been reading here for a long time. Irreverent fun like the fat mom joke is a good mix with the heavy topics in the world today. I don’t know many though who would think belligerent personal attacks qualify as irreverent fun. Why the fuck are people hateful to each other here? Shouldn’t this be a place to come together? My off the grid life is certainly not the enemy.

A glorious day to you both. May you receive positive energies and grow spiritually each and every day.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 12:57 pm

And the peace of the Lawd be with you ass well.

barefoot
barefoot
  RiNS
December 12, 2016 1:15 pm

This has nothing to do with any lord. Every atom and cell in the universe has a frequency. You should try a Tibetan or Crystal bowl. Every cell vibrates and resonates and it is an uplifting expertise. As are many other things. The toxic world we live in brings energies down. I’m just trying to help because I think we can all do better. For being a Nazi cuck safe space snowflake hillary loving retard pussy I guess I’m not that bad after all. Thanks for showing me that even a no good scoundrel like me can do and be better.

RiNS
RiNS
  RiNS
December 12, 2016 1:24 pm

I am so glad that you are so much better than me. Keep carrying that flag of moral righteousness. A shlep like like is not worthy of the task.

You are filling me with the Holy Spirit. Thanks much!

cheers

rt

Stucky
Stucky
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 2:28 pm

barefoot

Ya see? I still don’t think you get it. Lemme tell you a true story.

Somewhere around the first year I got here, Admin wrote something mean and nasty to someone. I said something to the effect — “Hey, Admin, I don’t think that talking like that will increase your viewership.” He might have said something like “fuck you” or “blow me”. I learned my lesson.

And, ever since, we get well-meaning folks like yourself stopping by to give advice on how things should be discussed. It usually doesn’t go well for that person. This place has it’s own Way Of Things … little molecules vibrating and getting all excited as they erupt in ecstatic ejaculations of colorful metaphors. You actually got off pretty easy. Wise man once said — “better quit while you’re ahead”.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  Stucky
December 12, 2016 3:18 pm

I will like what I like and hate what I hate – and having someone else tell me what I SHOULD like or hate or do or THINK is pointless, irritating and counter-productive.

Barefoot, I really don’t know enough about you to say whether you are being facetious, serious, playful or misled – but knowing How Others Should Live, Act and Behave has already led this country to one civil war over slavery (which would have died out on its own in another generation or two economically, but northern liberals couldn’t wait) and is about to unleash another.
But that’s OK, just keep telling us how we should THINK and ACT around here. We respect your opinion!

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
December 11, 2016 8:39 pm

Bullshit. As the wars wind down in the Middle East we will have plenty of Marine Corps drill sergeants with a little time on their hands. These fatbodies and lardasses should be hunted down with dogs, throw in the back of 6X trucks and hauled off to Federal “Health and Nutrition Centers”! I can tell you from personal experience that the Marine Corps has developed an amazing ability to deal with these human whales and blubber mounds. You would be surprised at what hard physical effort and a carefully controlled diet can achieve. I am normally of a somewhat libertarian bent when it comes to the Federal (or any) government sticking its nose into private lives, but here I draw the line. We had a War on Poverty! Now, a War on Fatties!

javelin
javelin
  Southern Sage
December 11, 2016 9:18 pm

I have rounds twice a week at one of our local nursing homes to check on my patients transferred there after leaving the hospital. I deal primarily with brain injury, strokes, TIA’s, Parkinson’s, ALS etc.
I can say with full confidence, 95% of the 110 bed facility is filled with obese people ranging in age from their 50’s to early 80’s. Some just 50 to 80 pounds overweight and struggling with simple tasks like standing or getting out of bed or onto a toilet without assistance, and then other who are morbidly obese. There are lots of 300+ pounders in 5’6″ frames, they are most often lifted mechanically from bed into a wheelchair for 6 to 12 hours and then lifted back into bed from evening until noon the next day. This is their life, day after day for the next several EXPENSIVE decades.
One thing they also all have in common–they are all on Medicare or Medicaid for the decades it will take until the pass away—and there are MILLIONS of them. Without the complications and medical issues from their obesity, many, if not most, would be living at home or with family as caregivers.
We could chop a trillion quickly off of the annual budget deficit if we could curb this problem.

barefoot
barefoot
  Southern Sage
December 12, 2016 8:28 am

Don’t the ‘wars on (insert)’ always create more of that exact thing? Like that’s the purpose? Makes it seem like that scenario wouldn’t be to their interest.

…Take it easy Stir Stucky. That guy about his fat friends mom was funny. Irreverence is nice but in general I never cared much just for stirring and throwing shit. I’m glad it’s died down, all the people here are in the same book if not on the same page.

Can admin block the trolls? Ignore their comments, lots of thumb downs show who they are, there is no need for very vulgar and verbose attacks in the comment section. It’s just me, but I know that’s not why I read here everyday.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  barefoot
December 12, 2016 3:21 pm

And who gets to decide who is a troll, who is just funning around and who is a Soviet disinformation specialist trying to subvert the country?
No points awarded, poor grasp of freedom.

barefoot
barefoot
  barefoot
December 13, 2016 3:01 am

Poor grasp of freedom because of the five words I spoke about blocking? Forget them, it is easy to spot trolls because they have ten down thumbs and zero ups. Ignoring them is quite easy. I never told anyone what they could think or do. I offered an opinion that the comment threads would be more accessible if they contained less vitriol. So freedom is good if it promotes belligerence but bad when used to promote logic? I question some of your grasps of comprehension, reading only as a form of confirmation bias.

I think this place is a valuable resource. The compilation of topics is top notch. Is this just a good ol boys club for a couple dozen regulars? I’m not here to be a monitor or to be an asshole. I’m here to learn, think, and prepare for what is to come. I think everyone could benefit from the ideas here. But I also think many would turn away and not share their own valuable insights because of unfounded rotten remarks toward others.

Do we have to be assholes to folks of similar thought to prove we are free? The Burning Platform is a bastion of light in a dark world full of lies. If the people here don’t get along it does not speak well for the rest of humanity. You can be a positive influence or a negative one. Being that we are all free to make decisions, the choice is yours.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 13, 2016 7:54 am

Poor grasp of logic more like it.

I was actually more offended by what you said then what javelin said.

You say..

I never told anyone what they could think or do. I offered an opinion…

And your fucked up solution…

To NOT be able to speak. What the Fuck! Did it ever occur to you that having an opinion like that makes you the asshole. Javelin doesn’t seem too put out at the picture of you and him cuddling for football. Just you seem perturbed. You just don’t get it. And who made you the arbiter of moral virtue anyways. You obviously don’t know much me either apparently. Even though if you dig in TBP far enough you can find out my name. Where I live. And what I did to stand up to a coal mine and the government a long time ago when I had a crisis of moral conscience.

Why is that. The answer is simple. I don’t care what anyone thinks about me.

I think I made the right choice. Well at least I can look in mirror. That is all that matters to me. I was that person in picture above who didn’t salute when everyone else wanted keep on keeping on. You can call me an asshole I don’t really care. But hurling insults then retreating to your safe space of moral virtue doesn’t make you right. It makes you a Chickenshit.

And then you end with the phrase .. the choice is yours. That closer drips with self-righteous hypocrisy. I have met plenty of your type in my day. Some of them are responsible for killing my friends.

Trevor Eagles along time ago crossed paths with me. He made a real bad choice. A choice that directly lead to deaths of 26 good men. Years later when he was testifying at an inquiry rather than telling the truth he did what every cuck does. Rode into town on his horse of moral virtue and feeling safe in his moral delusion, proceeded to make the story fit his narrative. He lied. I can prove it. Anyways you are fooling yourself but it ain’t fucking working on me.

Not happy with doing just that he then proceeds 24 years later to go to of all things a safety conference. Announce to everyone that he counts his testimony, tainted, as one of the proudest things he has done in his life. Fuck sakes! I can’t help but wonder if he is more proud of that then getting married having kids and being a good friend. Yeah I wonder.

But if Eagles and I were sitting across table from you from what I have read so far you would pick him as the upstanding citizen based on resumé presented to you.

https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/safety-kicks-off-mining-day-253913

….a safety conference. Fuck.

The reason I am here on TBP is because I have finally found a place to say whatever I fucken’ want. If you don’t like it then don’t fucken’ read it. The reason why it is important for everyone to speak is without it the truth is never revealed. Debate and findings of truth is messy. A long time ago in Nova Scotia, Canada, somebody and I still don’t know who took it upon themselves to decide, like you want to here, who gets to speak. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I don’t care if I get 1000 down votes for this. You are everything that is wrong in modern world. Maybe the farmer is right. Maybe we need to go back to a simpler time. Where character mattered. Seems these days people you slip thru the cracks too fucking much.

I would like to thank you for one thing. I have decided it is time to write a book.

Danke!

barefoot
barefoot
  RiNS
December 13, 2016 8:32 am

Your character is shit and you’re a miserable asshole. The point is bigger than the lame insults you hurl my way. I’d been thinking about saying something for a while about the unnecessary disrespect in the comments on this site. You’re old, it’s too bad you’re not dead yet yourself. Enough stupid assholes as it is. Yeah you’re rob from nova scotia and the way you talk and presume to know things shows your true character and it’s fucking ugly. Keep running your mouth like you know me. You added nothing to the conversation at any point. Just started by ripping on people then went belligerent cuz someone suggests being an asshole gets ya nowhere. Ya dirty rotten miserable asshole.

Write that book, gonna need all the shit paper we can get before long. Blow me ya fuckin dweeb. Then shove it up your safe space ya ignorant faggot.

See ain’t I cool, I can talk shit too. Gets us real far. I got off easy? Ha that’s what they say about you after visiting comet pizza in DC.

barefoot
barefoot
  RiNS
December 13, 2016 8:44 am

Oh, and yes I promoted the idea that no one should be able to talk or say anything. So adding with everything else you also lie and misconstrue. You don’t even argue what I really say you just make shit up to further your delusions. You’re a piece of shit, good for you. I read here for years and barely commented so talk to ya again soon, or maybe it’ll be a while. Couldn’t say, ya hateful bastard. Shit stucky even had relatively constructive comments toward me and he’s the one usually covering the walls in shit. What I cared to say was in my first comment about winter coming, the rest was me telling you that as a human, you suck. Take pride in being an asshole. There’s plenty of ya, schmuck.

RiNS
RiNS
  barefoot
December 13, 2016 10:08 am

Self righteous and a hypocrite wow!

Whatever.

You are a sad pathetic man who can’t take a joke.

Jenny R.
Jenny R.
December 11, 2016 9:31 pm

I’ve noticed that most of the really obese seem to not be happening in enclaves like the Amish or some of our last truly rural people — who don’t partake of popular culture and its obsession with skinny (and fat).
They might be chubby, but they work so it doesn’t seem to affect them. And that’s probably the key: go out and build something, chop some firewood, clean out a chicken koop…you’ll not stay fat. You may not be Mr. or Mzzz. Hardbody, but you won’t be obese…and you’ll get to eat food that actually tastes good.
Some of my female peers seem to be obsessed with their bodies (some of the men too) — they can’t understand why I gladly pork down those French fries.
I’m nearly fifty, five kids-seven pregnancies, married — I don’t want to look like a 20 year old me…it’s unseemly, and it won’t happen anyway. That’s gotten me plump, but my weight’s pretty much stayed the same since I lost the baby weight from the last kid 8 years ago, and I’m still basically healthy (ps. I smoke too, because I got addicted as a punk kid and still like it…you have to die of something eventually; perhaps it keeps me from committing socially disapproved violence, so it’s a service to humanity my smoking is).
And yes, I do a lot of horse stable cleaning and hay putting up — not as much as I used to, but still enough.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  Jenny R.
December 12, 2016 3:27 pm

My Dad was an airman, amateur boxer (WMCA) champion after the war, and naturally somewhat solid / brawny; he was until he died. His belly was actually concave – tapered inward from the bottom of the ribcage to the pelvis, right up until he died.
I was flat until I hit college the first time and lost it – carried a potbelly for over thirty years. NOW I’m trying to get rid of it, and it’s really hard – but someone just under six feet tall should not weigh 250# +. I really wish I’d never got fat, but I am, and I WILL lose it – just not going to get diabetes because I might if I don’t stop this. Cutting carbs, getting more exercise, working long hours to stay away from the snacks at home now. STILL losing ever so slowly, gotta find a way to avoid carbs late at night at home, when tired, hungry and willpower-low.
But I will do it – I have to. And if I finally get concave like Dad was, it will be the best thing I could possibly do – for myself, my family and the future. Onward!

Suzanna
Suzanna
December 11, 2016 9:58 pm

well…it is genetic and the product of heavily subsidized junk
convenience “food.” No one gets fat from apples and vegetables,
or homemade soups and stews. Chips and crisps and candy and
soda do not grow great minds either.
On heroin? It seems to be an available option to all groups and ages.
STD are getting more and more prevalent among teens as well.
Isn’t gov great?

starfcker
starfcker
December 11, 2016 10:26 pm

You can certainly limit what they can purchase with EBT. That’s the way WIC works. One of the funniest (and smartest) exchanges on these pages. I forget who, “only give them bread.” LLPOH, “only give them flour.”

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  starfcker
December 12, 2016 1:12 am

Can’t do that or the food processors would scream bloody murder. Frito-Lay and Monsanto are the government’s clients, not the citizenry.

Fuck me, I happened to look at a package of Italian sausage in the supermarket, and it had HFCS in it. Though I have done it, and will do it again, making one’s own sausage is a enterprise not everyone is equipped for. Eating clean food takes a good degree of effort and *education*.

And money for gas. I’m moving to a new town, and I needed to grab a dinner substitute at the only food market there. There was pretty much nothing in the entire place I would consider edible (yet that’s what the whole town lives on..). I managed to find some Cabot cheese slices and non-organic, non-non-GMO Stoned Wheat crackers. So I’ll be driving back to my old town for what I can’t grow or order in bulk.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  starfcker
December 12, 2016 8:32 am

Brown rice and dry beans.

Gayle
Gayle
December 12, 2016 2:49 am

Sit and watch tv, eat processed food full of sugar or corn syrup, salt, white flour, artificial flavors/colors, hydrogenated oil, pesticides, and drink sodas (diet sodas are worst) and you will become roly poly. Unfortunately at least half of the food in the market fits the above description.

Tator
Tator
December 12, 2016 5:32 am

Just saw a story on about the life expectancy in America going down…no doubt due to obesity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 12, 2016 7:59 am

I suspect that if MSG were outlawed in our food supply we’d start seeing a reduction in obesity.

When eating food with MSG in it and without it in it, the same food otherwise, people will almost always eat significantly more of that with the MSG in it (with all other factors being the same).

It has even been used in nutritionally deficient elderly nursing home patients to get them to eat more.

Of course, that is not the only factor, just one of them.

Jason Calley
Jason Calley
  Anonymous
December 12, 2016 10:29 am

When researchers wish to make a group of rats obese for some studies, they add MSG and HFCS to their feed.

When marketers wish to make humans buy more of their food product, they add MSG and HFCS to their feed.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
December 12, 2016 8:34 am

We need to get more people to start smoking. It helps people stay thin and then die before they cost us too much.

Jason Calley
Jason Calley
  Iska Waran
December 12, 2016 10:35 am

I once had a nurse get shouting angry with me. I told her that smokers had a lower lifetime cost of healthcare. It is simple, really. That last and terminal illness, the one that everyone gets sooner or later, costs about the same whether it is simple lung cancer or some old-age type of death. Smokers do not live quite as long, so their lifetime health expense is slightly lower. The nurse I told that to was so programed with the association that “smoking = illness”, that she could not think rationally about the subject. Instead she got angry at me, and responded as if I had said “smoking makes you healthier”.

Montefrío
Montefrío
December 12, 2016 8:44 am

Fat people have horrible squeaky screechy voices, turn bright red and the bat-wings beneath their arms wobble along with their wattles if you shame them. Best to spray them with charcoal lighter, set them ablaze and be done with it. Make sure to video the events leading up to ignition for use as mitigating circumstances evidence at your trial.

musket
musket
December 12, 2016 8:51 am

I absolutely love mexican food….but with one of the main ingredients being lard it is a no no……pass the olive oil and balsamic vinegar please…..

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  musket
December 12, 2016 9:28 pm

Industrial CAFO-origin hydrogenated lard sucks.
Lard from pasture-raised pigs is perfectly good for you.
What do you think people lived on before the industrial food system came along? Do you think they cut the fat off their meat and threw it away?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 12, 2016 10:48 am

Processed food and a sedentary lifestyle. I’m sure being all pharma’ed up doesn’t help eeither,but the first two are the big reasons.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
December 12, 2016 12:28 pm

Musket…Lard is good for you…it’s processed pig fat . I prefer beef fat .

http://paleoleap.com/rendering-fat/

OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn
December 12, 2016 12:53 pm

Fat Is As Fat Does.
Eat. And eat, and eat…

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
December 12, 2016 6:22 pm

A rotund coworker from long ago once commented that he and his equally large wife copulated via “the rocking horse method”. I didn’t ask him to elaborate. The mental image was quite enough.