A Libertarian Dilemma

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Not in my Backyard!

But what about when it’s in your neighbor’s back yard? What is the Libertarian attitude – and response – toward something you don’t like being built on someone else’s property?

The question contains its own answer.

It’s one I had to come face to face with recently, too. Proof of my Libertarian pudding, you might say. I think I passed. You tell me – and then tell me how you’d react.

Here’s the set-up:

I moved to a rural area, one with just one stoplight in the whole county – and no zoning laws, if you can imagine such a thing still exists anywhere in America today.

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It is not necessary to supplicate the local Gertrude Schlotz-Klink before one is allowed to build a shed, or put a roof your house or cut a tree down on one’s own property. You can do literally whatever you want to do with any tree that’s on your property.

Italics added for the necessary emphasis.

Shoot the tree, if you like. Paint it red, drive a truck into it. Carve it into a 50 foot high Trump (or Hillary) statue.

So long as it’s on your property, it is considered – rightly – your tree. Do with it as you see fit.

Do with your land as you see fit.

Including sell it to someone who may do something some of your neighbors may not exactly like with it.

Such as sell to an evil corporation – Dollar General, in this case – and subject your soon-to-be ex-neighbors to Grubby Commerce or some other such.

Things change – and sometimes, not the way we want them to.

Like the fact that there will soon be a Dollar General store about a mile down the road from me. Ugh. It will be the first corporate commercial presence within literally a dozen miles of my place and without question it will change the area’s character in ways that may benefit some but will absolutely annoy others – including me.

Neither consideration being actionable – insofar as taking action against others. As by appealing to the government to thwart the building of the store, for instance.

If you’re a Libertarian – and practice your espoused principles.

As a Libertarian, I have the option to move. Or stay – and accept the changing topography.

Do I like that there will be what – to me – is an ugly, low-rent, box store purveyor of container-shipped cheap Chinese crap just a mile down the road from me? That traffic (and noise) will almost certainly increase? That “the element” – people I’d rather not see or have to interact with – will now be attracted to my general vicinity?

No.

It makes my teeth hurt.

I am saddened to see the rural/local character of my little hamlet changing. I am selfishly annoyed by the coming of what, to me, is something as unwanted. I moved to here to get away from everything the Dollar Store represents. I had hoped to never see box store bleakness again, unless I drove a dozen or more miles down the road.

I worry that the presence of this latter-day KMart only a mile away will decrease the value of my place – leaving aside intangible quality of life/aesthetic considerations.

There goes the neighborhood.

I also worry that its presence may increase the value of my place – as the area becomes more agreeable to “city” types who up to now wouldn’t want to live out here because it’s too far away from everything and not convenient.

Now it will be more so.

My taxes may go up.

Sigh.

Worst case – from my point of view – the Dollar General will succeed. And that success will cause more interest in commercial development and that will in time turn this area into the very thing I moved 240 miles down the road to get away from: A replication of Northern Virginia.

That really makes my teeth hurt.

But I won’t join some of my neighbors in the rictus cry of authoritarian collectivism: There ought to be a law!

Specifically, zoning laws.

That is the reaction (and intention) of  several people I know who are – like me – not happy about the General but – unlike me – are willing to throw the concept of property rights in the Woods.

The danger of this ought to be apparent – but it makes no impression.

If zoning laws are passed limiting to whom (and for what purpose) X may sell his property and for what purpose,  it follows inevitably that Y and Z will be encumbered by a roster of additional restrictions, relentlessly expanding, until the once surprisingly free rural southern Virginia community becomes as suffocatingly corseted as any Northern Virginia suburb.

Gertrude Schlotz-Klink slouches toward Bethlehem . . .

Forget cutting down your tree. There will no longer be any such thing as your tree – whether (nominally) on “your” property or not. No more sheds without permission. And firing off a gun in the backyard? Might as well put the SWAT team on speed dial now.

You’ll continue to pay the mortgage – and the property taxes – but your neighbors, as expressed and enforced via Schlotz-Klink, will determine how you’re allowed to use “your” land.

No thanks. Give me Dollar General instead.

Or rather, give me liberty – and respect for my property rights. In return, I promise to respect the property rights of my neighbors, even when I am not pleased with what they’ve decided to do with their property.

Italics added, again.

For what, by now, ought to be obvious reasons.

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Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
February 18, 2017 9:10 am

Talk about ticky tacky, driving a Mini Cooper in a rural setting. Your elitism is full frontal. Get out of that squirrel cage death trap and hop into an F-150 Lariat or Platinum. Dollar Generals fulfill a need, they provide products that people need and want, have you ever shopped in one?

Yancey Ward
Yancey Ward
  Ouirphuqd
February 18, 2017 10:59 am

You do realize, don’t you, that Peters test drives cars and writes reviews of them?

xrugger
xrugger
  Ouirphuqd
February 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Take hit on your inhaler bozo, you’re obviously hyperventilating! You might want to take a second and ponder the notion that YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT OF THE POST!! Who gives a damn about what Dollar General is or what they provide. The post was about the concept of private property dumbass, not the cultural or economic value of cheap, Chinese trinkets. Holy crap! How can a thinking person be so dense as to think that it matters for the purposes of that post, whether it was a Dollar General or a NASA launch pad being built. Jeez man! Get something to treat the cranial-rectal inversion you’re suffering from. Maybe Dollar General carries something. I know where one is being built.

Anon
Anon
February 18, 2017 9:34 am

Dollar General is white trash heaven. They sell nothing but Chinese junk, and attract nothing but the stupid and “people of walmart”. The purpose they serve is to be a clarion call for the worst of the dregs class to go and buy useless crap they can’t afford anyway. I would be curious to see if the volume of garbage taken to the landfill in a year or so multiplies due to the introduction of this crap in to the town.
I don’t blame Eric in the slightest for his feeling towards this thing being built near him. I also agree, wholeheartedly that it is not HIS choice to make.
Ultimate freedom would be to find a place where property taxes did not exist. County assessors are just a means of control for the “subjects” of the “crown”. Hence the name Real Estate, derived from Royal Estate – the term used in middle age England to describe the Kings land, where the citizenry had to pay tribute to the King to farm or produce on their land.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anon
February 18, 2017 9:44 am

If the majority of people feel that way then the store will fail for lack of customers.

I’m guessing they won’t fail because they don’t.

travis
travis
February 18, 2017 9:46 am

I got a hoarder across the street. Killing my libertarian voluntaryist mind.

Yancey Ward
Yancey Ward
February 18, 2017 11:01 am

I am impressed that Peters found a road he could drive on for almost four minutes without passing a single car coming the other direction.

Alter Boyz
Alter Boyz
February 18, 2017 11:16 am

I don’t care for this man, his writing or his attitude. He won’t be invited in for whiskey, or be ‘in’ with the rest of the
neighborhood, I’d guess – A Big mistake in a rural setting.

Have a Swell Day, Peters, but try not to have any unsolvable problems after dark.

1980xls
1980xls
  Alter Boyz
February 18, 2017 5:19 pm

Peters is a fraud.

His articles on Autos are so technically inaccurate , it’s pathetic.

He moderates/screens all comments on his site, if they are not supportive or flattering to him.

Every comment I ever posted about the inaccuracies contained in his article were never posted.

He is too much of a coward to even challenge my comments, argue against them, or concede.

It appears he has blocked me from commenting on his site.

Anybody can make a mistake, but blocking factual errors in his opinion pieces, so others cannot see them is Bullshit

Fuck You Peters

norman franklin
norman franklin
February 18, 2017 11:23 am

I feel as if i am libertarian though it is hard sometime to maintain the courage of my convictions. In my little unincorperated CDP of 3500 people we have 5 little independent restaurants, gas station, hardware store, old fashioned barber shop [the barbers name is Floyd], and yes one janky ass dollar store. A few years before we moved here the nearby city of 12,000 or so tried to annex us into their failing shithole, the measure was rejected nearly85/15. Which gave us all the more reason to like this place. The only reasons the pro annexation crowd could give was that we could have curbside recycle and paved sidewalks,bullshit reasons to give up your independence imho. Most folks here keep their places well maintained and for those who don’t there is not any inclination to get the county to hold a gun to their head,but rather folks will try to help them clean up. I guess this makes us a mostly libertarian kind of place.

Dagny
Dagny
February 18, 2017 11:27 am

Externalities (noise, trash, etc) created by your new neighbor are a trespass on your property rights. This is your libertarian (small “l”) tool to fight the store with. Good Luck. Where I live in AZ, real estate developers own the local government, courts, etc., so I know I would not be successful if I tried to enforce my property rights.

KaD
KaD
February 18, 2017 11:49 am

I know someone who was a good friend of Frank Lloyd Wright. Someone once asked him how far outside the city he should move. Wrights answer was “As far as you can stand it, then ten times farther than that. Because the city will come to you.”

Huck Finn
Huck Finn
February 18, 2017 1:02 pm

When I moved to the boonies I bought 50 acres on a paved highway. All I had read about moving to the country had convinced me that being on a paved highway near electricity was a good thing. Now I know better. I wish I’d found a place way back in the woods down at the end of some dirt path that passes for a county road. Too bad moving is so painful and expensive. I’d love to get even more remote than I am now.

The local electric utility wanted $20,000 to run power 500 yards to my house as well as a ten year contract, and the foundation and well had to be in place before they would run the wire, so I ended up being off-grid anyway. Sure wish I was farther back into the wilderness.

BB
BB
February 18, 2017 1:11 pm

Anon ,I shop at general dollars when I can’t find a Walmart .White trash heaven is OK by me. Chinese Junk ? Hell no what you really want is the American Junk Food they sell . That’s really the white trash heaven part ….And I like it.

Gayle
Gayle
  BB
February 18, 2017 1:40 pm

It’s also the best place for stationery/school supplies, wrapping paper and gift bags, storage containers, and $.99 reading glasses.

BB
BB
February 18, 2017 1:20 pm

Huck Berry ,you a delusional illogical fool or worse .You have been reading to many survival books.This no time to play evolutionary back to nature ape man .Get you some electricity and get a life .You know …like Stucky .

yahsure
yahsure
February 18, 2017 1:42 pm

I find the dollar store to be a good place for soap and toilet paper. Cheaper than our local grocery store. Just wait until they really get with the whole agenda 21 program and terminate private property rights to save the planet. I would like to build a cheap house but the permits cost more than the materials. Everyone has their hand in your wallet.

Desertrat
Desertrat
February 18, 2017 2:20 pm

I’ve yet to see any big box store out in the boonies. Peters’ idea of rural, apparently only a mile or so from the edge of town, is not really in sync with my own idea.

Thomasville, Jawgia, has four Dollar General stores. While there seems to always be two to four cars in the parking lot, there are never more than two to four. IOW, not what you’d call high-volume. Steady, yeah, but not heaps, gobs and bunches of shoppers.

yahsure, one nice thing about rural Texas is that you can build a house and not need to mess with zoning, permits or building inspectors. Heck, paint that school bus any color you like. 😀

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
February 18, 2017 2:42 pm

Peters stuck to his Libertarian principles. It wasn’t his property and it is not impacting his property, so he has nothing to say about it.

Having an ugly-ass dollar store a mile down the road is a small price to pay for keeping government out of decisions about the use of my property.

starfcker
starfcker
February 18, 2017 3:09 pm

Making any decision through some political lens is stupid. It’s not a bad thing to do what is in your best interest, all the time. Doesn’t have to be selfish. Peter’s giving dollar general a pass, based on some principle he has enshrined in his brain, is no smarter than the europeans giving the muzzie invaders a pass, because they are compassionate liberals. No, they are invaders, changing your way of life. So is dollar general. Not defending your way of life means they win, every time.

starfcker
starfcker
  starfcker
February 18, 2017 7:18 pm

Downvotes are fine, but in this case, I wonder what the counter argument is. Being sold a particular flavor of political dogma, and buying it hook, line and sinker is more important than protecting your family and community? Posting quotes from dumb neegrow tom (never Trump) sowell doesn’t help his case. He’s been preaching lay down and take it in the ass for decades, and the brainwashed just nod. A better approach, ask yourself, “What would John Wayne do?”

unit472
unit472
February 18, 2017 5:11 pm

I could see some kind of ‘local ownership’ for retail business in rural communities. Its sad to see derelict ‘Main Streets’ put out of business by Walmart, McDonalds etc. Chain operations suck the profits out of town and mar the landscape with their same in Seattle as in Miami architecture and corporate logos.

Suzanna
Suzanna
February 18, 2017 7:36 pm

Well, Mr. Peters has a right to his opinion and he gave it.
The trouble with trying to be (100%) Libertarian is that
it can get in the way of your “freedom”. The best thing about
a rural area is the freedom. I heard a siren today for the first
time in a month. There is a Dollar Store, of a kind, in our
downtown and I go there now and again. There are any # of (non-China)
items there for less $. It is not the kind that sells all the party favors
and trinkets. There are building permits required for structures greater
than a shed, but no inspections unless “you plan on living in there” (garage).
I am 99% happy to be living rural. I am not missing the city whatsoever.
But it does mean you have to suffer some guy collecting junk in his yard,
or a downscale business. Never ever live on the highway. A secondary
road is okay, traffic is local and the road is plowed. Did you know, in Milwaukee
eg, alleys aren’t plowed by the (tax) city. Either you hire a service, or everybody
shovels to the midline. 🙂
PS, there are Walmarts, but they are an hour away.

starfcker
starfcker
February 18, 2017 10:04 pm

Suzanna, I have plenty of respect for Eric, he is fearless. Right or wrong, he lays it out there. I doubt he’s trying to fool anyone about anything. That said, I’m just trying to make the point, how have we all been brainwashed into doubting, even for a second, that doing the right thing, is the right thing to do, every time. Who cares, “what it is to be a libertarian”? Who cares what bought and sold shills like sowell have to say? Trump is bringing back sanity, screw all the politics, let’s get back to making decisions based on what’s going to make our families, our communities, and our country stronger. Eric thinks he has a dilemma. I don’t see one. Fuck dollar general.

Michael M
Michael M
February 18, 2017 10:54 pm

All ya gotta do, man is get your neighbors to work with you in making a legally binding covenant for your area, or some other area where everyone wants sort of the same thing.