Russian Military Superiority (Quality)

Yes, I know we had an article this week by Paul Craig Roberts “One Day Tomorrow Won’t Arrive”. This is The Saker’s follow-up.

Bring on the Russia-phobes!

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Does Russia Now Have Superior Military Technology?

 

“Do you think his assessment is accurate?” was the subject line of an email I got from a good friend recently. The email referred to the article by Paul Craig Roberts “One Day Tomorrow Won’t Arrive” which claimed that “the US military is now second class compared to the Russian military“. The article then went on to list a number of Russian weapons systems which were clearly superior to their US counterparts (when those even existed).

My reply was short “Basically yes. The US definitely has the quantitative advantage, but in terms of quality and training, Russia is way ahead.It all depends on on specific scenarios, but yes, PCR is basically spot on“.

This email exchange took place after an interesting meeting I had with a very well informed American friend who, in total contrast to PCR, insisted that the US had complete military supremacy over any other country and that the only thing keeping the US from using this overwhelming military might was that US leaders did not believe in the “brutal, unconstrained, use of force”. So what is going on here? Why do otherwise very well informed people have such totally contradictory views?

First, a disclaimer. To speak with any authority on this topic I would have to have access to a lot of classified data both on the US armed forces and on the Russian ones. Alas, I don’t. So what follows is entirely based on open/public sources, conversations with some personal contacts mixed in with some, shall we say, educated guesswork. Still, I am confident that what follows is factually correct and logically analyzed.

To sum up the current state of affairs I would say that the fact that the US armed forces are in a grave state of decay is not as amazing by itself as is the fact that this almost impossible to hide fact is almost universally ignored. So let’s separate the two into “what happened” and “why nobody seems to be aware of it”.

 

What happened

Let’s begin at the beginning: the US armed forces were never the invincible military force the US propaganda (including Hollywood) would have you believe they have been. I looked into the topic of the role of the western Allies in my “Letter to my American friend” and I won’t repeat it all here.

Let’s just say that the biggest advantage the US had over everybody else during WWII was a completely untouched industrial base which made it possible to produce fantastic numbers of weapon systems and equipment in close to ideal conditions. Some, shall we kindly say, “patriotic” US Americans have interpreted that as a sign of the “vigor” and “superiority” of the Capitalist economic organization while, in reality, this simply was a direct result of the fact that the US was protected by two huge oceans (the Soviets, in contrast, had to move their entire industrial base to the Urals and beyond, as for the Germans, they had to produce under a relentless bombing campaign).

The bottom line was this: US forces were better equipped (quantitatively and, sometimes, even qualitatively) than the others and they could muster firepower in amounts difficult to achieve for their enemies. And, yes, this did give a strong advantage to US forces, but hardly made them in any way “better” by themselves.

After WWII the US was the only major industrialized country on the planet whose industry had not been blown to smithereens and for the next couple of decades the US enjoyed a situation close to quasi total monopoly. That, again, hugely benefited the US armed forces but it soon became clear that in Korea and Vietnam that advantage, while real, did not necessarily result in any US victory.

Following Vietnam, US politicians basically limited their aggression to much smaller countries who had no chance at all to meaningfully resist, never mind prevail. If we look at the list of US military aggressions after Vietnam (see here or here) we can clearly see that the US military specialized in attacking defenseless countries.

Then came the collapse of the Soviet Union, the first Gulf War and the Global War on Terror when US politicians clearly believed in their own propaganda about being the “sole superpower” or a “hyperpower” and they engaged in potentially much more complex military attacks including the full-scale invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.

These wars will go down in history as case studies of what happens when politicians believe their own propaganda. While Dubya declared victory as soon as the invasion was completed, it soon became clear to everybody that this war was a disaster from which the US has proved completely unable to extricate itself (even the Soviets connected the dots and withdrew from Afghanistan faster than the Americans!). So what does all this tell us about the US armed forces: (in no special order)

  1. They are big, way bigger than any other
  2. They have unmatched (worldwide) power projection (mobility) capabilities
  3. They are high-tech heavy which gives them a big advantage in some type of conflicts
  4. They have the means (nukes) to wipe any country off the face of the earth
  5. They control the oceans and strategic choke points

Is that enough to win a war?

Actually, no, it is not. All it takes to nullify these advantages is an enemy who is aware of them and who refuses to fight what I call the “American type of war” (on this concept, see here). The recent wars in Lebanon, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq have clearly shown that well-adapted tactics mostly deny the US armed forces the advantages listed above or, at the very least, make them irrelevant.

 

If we accept Clausewitz’s thesis that “war is the continuation of politics by other means” then it becomes clear that the US has not won a real war in a long, long time and that the list of countries willing to openly defy Uncle Sam is steadily growing (and now includes not only Iran and the DPRK, but also Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Venezuela and even Russia and China). This means that there is an emerging consensus amongst the countries which the US tries to threaten and bully into submission that for all the threats and propaganda the US is not nearly as formidable enemy as some would have you believe.

Why nobody seems to be aware of it

The paradoxical thing is that while this is clearly well understood in the countries which the US is currently trying to threaten and bully into submission, this is also completely ignored and overlooked inside the United States itself. Most Americans, including very well informed ones, sincerely believe that their armed forces are “second to none” and that the US could crush any enemy which would dare disobey or otherwise defy the AngloZionist Empire.

Typically, when presented with evidence that the USAF, USN and NATO could not even defeat the Serbian Army Corps in Kosovo, or that in Afghanistan the US military performance is very substantially inferior to what the 40th Soviet Army achieved (with mostly conscripts!), my interlocutors always reply the same thing: “yeah, maybe, but if we wanted we could nuke them!“. This is both true and false. Potential nuclear target countries for the US can be subdivided into three categories:

  1. Countries who, if nuked themselves, could wipe the US off the face of the earth completely (Russia) or, at least, inflict immense damage upon the US (China).
  2. Those countries which the US could nuke without fearing retaliation in kind, but which still could inflict huge conventional and asymmetric damage on the US and its allies (Iran, DPRK).
  3. Those countries which the US could nuke with relative impunity, but which the US could also crush with conventional forces making the use of nukes pointless (Venezuela, Cuba).
And, of course, in all these cases the first use of nukes by the US would result in a fantastic political backlash with completely unpredictable and potentially catastrophic consequences. For example, I personally believe that using nukes on Iran would mark the en byd of NATO in Europe as such an action would irreparably damage EU-US relations. Likewise, using nukes on the DPRK would result in a huge crisis in Asia with, potentially, the closure of US bases in Korea and Japan. Others would, no doubt, disagree.

 

The bottom line: US nukes are only useful as a deterrent against other nuclear powers; for all other roles they are basically useless. And since neither Russia or China would ever contemplate a first-strike against the USA, you could say that they are almost totally useless (I say almost, because in the real world the US cannot simply rely on the mental sanity and goodwill of other nations; so, in reality, the US nuclear arsenal is truly a vital component of US national security).

Which leaves the Navy and the Army. The USN still controls the high seas and strategic choke points, but this is becoming increasingly irrelevant, especially in the context of local wars. Besides, the USN is still stubbornly carrier-centric, which just goes to show that strategic vision comes a distant second behind bureaucratic and institutional inertia. As for the US Army, it has long become a kind of support force for Special Operations and Marines, something which makes sense in tiny wars (Panama, maybe Venezuela) but which is completely inadequate for medium to large wars.

What about the fact that the US spends more on “defense” (read “wars of aggression”) than the rest of the planet combined? Surely that counts for something?

Actually, no, it does not. First, because most of that money is spent on greasing the pockets of an entire class of MIC-parasites which make billions of dollars from the “bonanza” provided by that ridiculously bloated “defense” budget. The never mentioned reality is that compared to the USA, even the Ukrainian military establishment looks only “moderately corrupt”!

[Sidebar: you think I am exaggerating? Ask yourself a simple question: why does the US need 17 intelligence agencies while the rest of the world usually need from 2 to 5? Do you really, sincerely, believe that this has anything to do with national security?

If you do, please email me, I got a few bridges to sell to you at great prices! Seriously, just the fact that the US has about 5 times more “intelligence” agencies than the rest of the planet is a clear symptom of the the truly astronomical level of corruption of the US “national security state”]

In weapons system after weapons system, we see cases in which the overriding number one priority is to spend as much money as possible as opposed to delivering a weapon system that soldiers could actually fight with. When these systems are engaged, they are typically engaged against adversaries which are two to three generations behind the USA, and that makes them look formidable.

Not only that, but in each case the US has a huge numerical advantage (hence the choice of small country to attack). But I assure you that for real military specialists the case for the superiority of US weapons systems is a joke. For example, French systems (such as the Rafale or the Leclerc MBT) are often both better and cheaper than their US equivalents, hence the need for major bribes and major “offset agreements“.

The Russian military budget is tiny, at least compared to the US one. But, as William EngdalDmitrii Orlov and others have observed, the Russians get a much bigger bang for the buck. Not only are Russian weapon systems designed by soldiers for soldiers (as opposed to by engineers for bureaucrats), but the Russian military is far less corrupt than the US one, at least when mega-bucks sums are concerned (for petty sums of money the Russians are still much worse than the Americans).

At the end of the day, you get the kind of F-35 vs SU-35/T-50 or, even more relevantly, the kind of mean time between failure or man-hours to flight hour ratios we have seen from the US and Russian forces over Syria recently. Suffice to say that the Americans could not even begin to contemplate executing the number of sorties the tiny Russian Aerospace task force in Syria has achieved.

Still, the fact remains that if the Americans wanted it they could keep hundreds of aircraft in the skies above Syria whereas the tiny Russian Russian Aerospace task never had more than 35 combat aircraft at any one time: the current state of the Russian military industry simply does not allow for the production of the number of systems Russia would need (but things are slowly getting better).

So here we have it: the Americans are hands down the leaders in quantitative terms; but in qualitative terms they are already behind the Russians and falling back faster and faster with each passing day.

Do the US military commanders know that?

Of course they do.

But remember what happened to Trump when he mentioned serious problems in the US military? The Clinton propaganda machine instantly attacked him for being non-patriotic, for “not supporting the troops”, for not repeating the politically obligatory mantra about “we’re number one, second to none” and all the infantile nonsense the US propaganda machine feeds those who still own a TV at home. To bluntly and honestly speak about the very real problems of the US armed forces is much more likely to be a career-ending exercise than a way to reform a hopelessly corrupt system.

There is one more thing. Not to further dwell on my thesis that Americans are not educated enough to understand basic Marxist theory, but the fact is that most of them know nothing about Hegelian dialectics.

They. therefore, view things in a static way, not as processes. For example, when they compliment themselves on having “the most powerful and capable military in the history of mankind” (they love that kind of language), they don’t even realize that that this alleged superiority will inevitably generate its own contradiction and that this strength would therefore also produce its own weakness.

Well-read American officers, and there are plenty of those, do understand that, but their influence is almost negligible when compared with the multi-billion dollar and massively corrupt superstructure they are immersed in. Furthermore, I am absolutely convinced that this state of affairs is unsustainable and that sooner or later there will appear a military or political leader which will have the courage to address these problems frontally and try to reform a currently petrified system.

But the prerequisite for that will probably have to be a massive and immensely embarrassing military defeat for the US. I can easily imagine that happening in case of a US attack on Iran or the DPRK. I can guarantee it if the US leadership grows delusional enough to try to strike at Russia or China.

But for the time being its all gonna be “red, white and blue” and Paul Craig Roberts will remain a lone voice crying in the desert. He will be ignored, yes. But that does not change the fact that he is right.

P.S. As for myself, I want to dedicate this song by Vladimir Vysotskii to Paul Craig Roberts and to all the other “Cassandras” who have the ability to see the future and the courage to warn us about it. They usually end up paying a high price for their honesty and courage.


Source: The Unz Review

 

Author: Stucky

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Maggie
Maggie
November 4, 2017 11:41 am

An article I shall bookmark for later review. His analysis is usually very good as far as I’m concerned. Thanks for reminding me about the Saker.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 4, 2017 11:59 am

Both sides have stuff no one knows about and won’t until it gets used (think the stealth bombers that showed up in Iraq to everyone’s surprise).

But in the end, if a real war breaks out and neither side surrenders or withdraws first, it will come down to the glory days of war when man went against man trying to put a hole in each other with bayonets.

It will end up being will of the men who fight the war that will determine the outcome, not the weapons they use.

Big Dick
Big Dick
  Anonymous
November 4, 2017 5:51 pm

Dream on, we are not superior, other than being mass number killers. As a Vietnam vet I can tell you we had the military men, the advantage in weapons, and the young people that had the will to win. We did not win. We lost by a large margin. Why? It was because the war we were fighting is the same kind of war as Afghanistan, and those in the various mountains and jungles of the other parts of the world, where we do not know the terrain. We were fighting against others who had the will like us, but had continually outnumbered our forces. They also could care about their male and female losses, as it was an honor to die for the cause. We had air and naval superiority, which were ineffective in even destroying roads and bridges permanently, as they were rebuilt overnight. Want proof? Look at what Vietnam is today. Communist and run by people in Hanoi.
Nuff Said!
The only thing missing truth from the above scenario is the war mongering piece of shit that dumps on Trump almost daily, stops every move to improve the country, and pushes, always and forever, for more spending for military use, usage, and weapons. Also listed as the #1 receiver of war loving corporations campaign funds.

Can you guess who?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
November 4, 2017 12:01 pm

So we ARE second-to-none. It’s just that that doesn’t matter. Great, concise article. Imagine if our defense complex were actually about, you know, defending us.

unit472/
unit472/
November 4, 2017 12:36 pm

“The recent wars in Lebanon, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq have clearly shown that well-adapted tactics mostly deny the US armed forces the advantages listed above or, at the very least, make them irrelevant.”

This comment shows the writer doesn’t ‘get it’. The US is able to go and fight anywhere in the world. No other nation can do that nor stop the US from doing it. Add to this the US domination of the global financial system and technology and there is a reason the United States is not just a ‘superpower’ but the ‘Hyperpower’.

China can dominate its littoral seas but not push its way out into the Pacific. Russia can put a brigade of soldiers and a couple fighter bomber squadrons in Syria but has no real ability to mount sustained military operations away from its territory and its heavy mechanized army is still stuck in the 1940’s. Too heavy and too slow to even mount a modern ‘blitzkrieg’. Assembling an armored division is a major logistical operation and it doesn’t move fast by today’s standards. 50 miles is about the limit for an advance before it has to stop to resupply and regroup.

It took two weeks for the US Army to drive from the Saudi border to Baghdad despite the Iraqi army being almost completely destroyed in the first few days of fighting. That’s about 350 miles. The problem today is that airpower can destroy enemy infrastructure faster than heavy armored forces can advance using just conventional but precision guided munitions. This could create a weird anomaly where one nations army could be victorious on the battlefield but lose the war because the homeland has been destroyed by the other sides airpower leaving the ‘victorious’ army stranded on the battlefield.

unit472/
unit472/
  Stucky
November 4, 2017 2:54 pm

Say what you may the US went to ( landlocked ) Afghanistan and has stayed their for 16 years. The Afghans can’t push us out. Can we exterminate the Taliban? Well not under the ‘rules of engagement’ Bush and Obama followed we couldn’t. Trump is issuing ‘new rules’ so we shall see. It will probably depend on how much pressure Trump can bring on Pakistan to seal their border.

This was the problem the Russians had too. The Russians were plenty ruthless during their war in Afghanistan but couldn’t stop the US backed ‘rebels’ from moving in and out of Afghanistan. We don’t face the problem of Russia working against us in Afghanistan
so, given some cooperation from Pakistan, some harsher tactics and a bit of luck the Taliban might be defeated. The game may not be worth the candle but we do have the opportunity, as Kevin mentions, to rotate combat units through the war zone to give our forces combat experience.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  unit472/
November 4, 2017 3:22 pm

You know, the Russian military may not be as remarkable as some would have us believe, and the United States military may not be as weak and incompetent as the same folks would insist. Both are powerful, and both have weaknesses. Our weaknesses are substantially due to the evisceration of our military by our former muslim president and the Clintons. Russia’s weaknesses may be due in part to economic conditions, which have actually plagued both nations. One of Russia’s strengths is Putin, who I admire and despise at the same time. We have Trump now, and I will not apologize for voting for him, and in fact am appreciating my decision more and more every day. There is a reason the Kremlin did not want him in office.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  unit472/
November 4, 2017 1:42 pm

“Add to this the US domination of the global financial system…”
If I’m not mistaken the US is the largest debtor nation on Earth.
What if China decided to cash in all that worthless US paper it holds.
It’s called financial weapons of mass destruction.
Pretty good deterrent.
Just a thought

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Unreconstructed
November 4, 2017 3:11 pm

“What if China decided to cash in all that worthless US paper it holds.
It’s called financial weapons of mass destruction.”

Interesting question… would that be good for China, or bad for China? I submit that it would be bad for China, and the effects on us would be marginal. If they cash in their dollars, they’d be worth little, and this would result in catastrophic losses for a country already suffering from inflation and over-growth. Additionally, we are China’s largest purchaser of goods. They cash in dollars, we embargo Chinese goods. I don’t think they will do that, no matter what.

unit472/
unit472/
November 4, 2017 1:01 pm

A thought experiment. Suppose the Allied landing on D-Day did not take place or had been repulsed. Germany would have then been free to move the bulk of the 60 divisions it had in the West to the East. Let’s say they did and then administered a devastating defeat to the Russians when they tried to cross the Vistula. A German victory in WW2?

Probably not because Allied Air power was reducing Germany industry to the point by early 1945 they couldn’t even produce enough explosives to supply their army. At some point the Russians would have been able to breakthrough or the Germans would have had to surrender to the west to get our air power off their cities.

Brian
Brian
  unit472/
November 4, 2017 2:50 pm

It wouldn’t have mattered.

The Russians turned the tide at Stalingrad in the beginning of 1943. The Germans lost an entire army and their offensive ability never recovered. Their last attempt at any large offensive was at the battle of Kursk, in July of 43, where they had limited success but suffered huge losses as did the Soviets. Except for Kursk, the Germans were in an almost continuous retreat for the rest of the war.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
November 4, 2017 1:37 pm

While our submarine force is top-notch, our aircraft carriers are a target rich environment for the very high speed, low flying, object sensing missiles.

unit472/
unit472/

That’s the theory but there was a real world example back in the early 1980’s where small British carriers were able to operate a few hundred miles off Argentina during the Falklands war. The Argentines had ( for that time) the very advanced French Exocet missile. They did hit some British warships and a big container ship but not the carriers.

The British carriers were able to stay just out of range and use their Sea Harrier fighters to defend the skies over the landing zone.

Kevin
Kevin
November 4, 2017 1:45 pm

Wow, well done; really well done and sober. I would add a sixth point regarding US forces and that is the US military has been in constant operations since 2003. That is a lot of hands on experience and the kind of experience no other group has save for Hezbollah. There is the old adage that a veteran is worth three neophytes in a battle. I have spoken to a number of company grade officers in the Army over the past year and all, with the exception of one, wanted out. They have confidence in their chain of command but are tired of dealing with the issues that arise from working in understrength units.

It has been a long time since I have wore a uniform. But when I left the military in the early 1990s I left thinking the NCO corps had come a full 180 degrees from the days of Vietnam. Those were dark days for the Army and the NCO ranks were decimated. You can rebuild an officer corps pretty quickly but not NCO’s; that requires more than a decade. And it was rebuilt and perhaps better than ever.

Yes, we can project power. But when I look at places like Poland and Lithuanian where we have deployed mechanized battalions and brigades, I can’t help but think they are little more than trip wires providing the Russians targets to shoot at should hostilities break out.

I am not sold on Russian training and overall readiness. Although it is composed of the majority volunteers, there are still a lot personnel who have been drafted to flesh out the ranks. The Russian military is a great place for officers but not so much the enlisted ranks.

In closing the author mentions he could only access open source documents. But it has been my experience that a lot can be groomed from open sources like Jane’s or attending events like the Paris Air Show. Google can give a lot of information on installations and facilities. One thing hard to determine without classified information is intentions.

Jim
Jim
November 4, 2017 1:56 pm

The US has not faced an adversary capable of projecting serious power onto our population since we fought redcoats. We now face many adversaries capable of raining legitimate death and destruction onto US cities in the form of nuclear, conventional, cyber, and asymmetric tactics. Fighting that kind of foe may expose weaknesses in our military that we never even considered.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jim
January 18, 2019 11:40 am

That’s all true – but it’s not the point of this article, which promotes the ridiculously delusional idea that the US military is actually inferior to opponents.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
November 4, 2017 2:03 pm

Let’s presume that Iran’s short and medium range missiles are pretty accurate (maybe a 50′ radius). We know that many are guided optically during the final descent so they cannot be jammed. Let’s say the US finally decides to “teach Iran a lesson” and wipes out most of it’s surface navy in a series of blitzkrieg attacks by aircraft, bombers and cruise missiles.

But Iran decides it’s time to show the US what it can do. Imagine fifty to a hundred missiles raining down on a carrier. Would not its defensed be overwhelmed? Could not Iran rather easily send a Nimitz class carrier that is within range of it’s missiles rather handily to the bottom of the ocean with all hands?

This, folks is why Iran doesn’t need or want nuclear weapons. This exact scenario has been war gamed several times and it always has the same result. Our generals and admirals are well aware of it, even if our idiot politicians are not. It is also the reason Iran likes to parade it’s missiles around. They are sending a warning to anyone who will listen.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Zarathustra
November 4, 2017 2:33 pm

“But Iran decides it’s time to show the US what it can do. Imagine fifty to a hundred missiles raining down on a carrier. Would not its defensed be overwhelmed? Could not Iran rather easily send a Nimitz class carrier that is within range of it’s missiles rather handily to the bottom of the ocean with all hands?”

Yep, very likely, although aircraft carriers certainly anticipate these types of attacks and I would hope are capable of repelling such an act, not to mention the obliteration the Iranians would face if they did indeed do such a thing. Deterrence may be an AC’s best hope.

“This, folks is why Iran doesn’t need or want nuclear weapons.”

That is bullshit propaganda from a bullshit propagandist… Iran is no different than any other Islamic fundamentalist nation… they MUST conquer their non-islamic enemies, not to mention their islamic enemies, by any means necessary. With nuclear weapons, plus their islamic death-wish, they would be (and will be, because we won’t do anything about it) the terrorist sponsor that they are now multiplied a thousand-fold.

Call me a sucker for American propaganda, but some things are not, IMHO, worth risking, and that includes ignoring a powerful military controlled by islamic freakamentalists who pray to a pedophile goat fucker five times a day and scream “death to America” who want nuclear weapons on long-range missiles. I also would not let a convicted child rapist babysit my grandchildren.

We have the same right to try to survive as anyone else. The Jews walked into gas chambers by the millions less than 100 years ago. Think fundamentalist islamic fucktoids don’t have rich fantasies about doing equally horrible things to us? They FUCKING TELL US THIS EVERY DAY!

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Hammer's Thor
November 4, 2017 5:10 pm

Okay. You’re a sucker for American propaganda.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
November 4, 2017 5:15 pm

If the US were to retaliate against civilians using nuclear weapons simply as childish revenge because it got defeated in a battle as a response to another illegal and unconstitutional war crime of choice, it would be the end of the US as a global player. There isn’t a single country on earth (except Israel) that would have anything to do with it. NATO, among other things, would be toast.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Stucky
November 4, 2017 5:25 pm

Serious question: What would you demand?

Me, I would demand the annihilation of Iran’s military bases and implements, as swiftly as possible, within minutes or hours. There’s a plan for this. Make every REASONABLE effort not to massacre non-militants (civilians), but render their military and their military personnel and their nuclear program unusable.

Also, since we should have an eye on their islamofascist mullas (shit, we have an eye on everything else), wipe them out with extreme prejudice.

EDIT: I almost chose not to respond to the absurd suggestion that the US would retaliate against civilians with nuclear weapons, but the mere suggestion that we would suggests two things:
1. Zarathustra is a troll, and
2. Zarathustra is an Iranian Islamofascist, not a muslim reformer as his moniker would suggest.

C’mon, Zarathustra, say it. Just once. You know, Death to America! You can say it here. You know you want to.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Hammer's Thor
November 4, 2017 7:20 pm

Dipshit, you are clearly a noob here. I laugh at your stupid assumptions.

PS, Marg bar Amriki! See, it isn’t hard. What’s wrong with that anyway? Everyone who is a regular here knows that the US is the world’s #1 rogue state and leading sponsor of terrorism.

PPS, What the fuck does my name have to do with Islam…reform or not? Are you really that clueless?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Zarathustra
November 4, 2017 8:09 pm

US carriers are surrounded by a task force whose job is to defend the carrier and sacrifce themselves if need be. Modern missile tech makes it necessary for carriers to stand well off from any missiles, as carriers are indeed susceptible to attck by missiles, but given enough room/time they have pretty good defense capability. The gatling guns they carry, for instance, as do their task forces, throw up a literal wall of projectiles in front of incoming missiles – if they have time to activate and acquire the targets. Whether they could handle 100 missiles simultaneously I do not know, but the task forces are substantial.

The biggest danger, last I knew, were the low and slow wave skimming missiles that sneak up then go supersonic when they get close to the carrier group. Wthey are almost unstoppable. But I think range is limited, hence the need for carriers to satnd well off their targets, lest they get sunk.

I think the days of carriers are limited, as missile tech gets better. I think long range aircraft and the ability to refuel will become increasingly important.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Zarathustra
November 5, 2017 12:49 am

Well, yes. Evidently. I looked up your name out of curiosity, and had a couple of different windows open on different screens, and combined the religious reformer of ancient Persia with another topic on Islamic Reformation in the guardian. My bad. How embarrassing.

Not really a noob, I just don’t suck down the death to America koolaid. I like it here. Perhaps you might like it better back in Iran. I’m pretty sure you’d get along there just fine.

I do not think the U.S. is the world’s number one sponsor of terror. I also do not think everyone who is a regular here believes that either. The Islamic world has been terrorizing and enslaving their neighbors for hundreds of years before America was a nation. They still do. The Islamic slave trade is alive and flourishing. Our country, more specifically our imperial federal government is fucked up, but not nearly so much as most of the others. If we’re so bad, why are so many millions trying to come here?

Except for the islamofascist descendants of the Barbary pirates who wish to conquer and kill us, they’re trying to have a better life. They’re not sneaking into Iran, or Syria, or China.

So, other than the error about your name, which I clearly acknowledged, what stupid assumptions did I make that are inaccurate?

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Stucky
November 5, 2017 8:09 am

Not most of them. And not until very recently. In my business, many of my clients are Indian (tech support, not the other kind). They have money, and they actually work hard. The exceptions are the Mexicans, and even many of them are trying to get away from a country that is more corrupt than ours.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Stucky
November 5, 2017 8:16 am

Yes, I have heard about that, somewhere. I suppose perhaps we did that to attempt to end a war that we did not start against an enemy that had bombed a whole bunch of our ships.

Yes, there were civilian casualties. A lot of them. There often are. But both were military targets and Japan has behaved itself since then.

Military targets. Don’t want your civilians to be killed? Don’t place your military near them, and don’t fuck with us.

CCRider
CCRider
November 4, 2017 2:17 pm

I agree completely with this thesis. Any potential enemy would have to be insane to engage the u.s. military on their terms. Putin is a chess master for Christ’s sake. Some form of asymmetrical warfare is bound to take center stage. Have their hackers crash the stock market? Compromise the GPS/communication satellites? Perhaps even set off a EMP devise? My guess is both China and Russia already have that wherewithal on the shelf now. I would regretfully add that the u.s. has long ago lost the high moral ground and that’s more important than many acknowledge. It’s a very powerful force of nature. Lincoln successfully used the issue of slavery to mask his power grab right up to the present day. There are people by the scores of millions who would revel in joy over our demise. Consider the indigenous population’s support for u.s. forces in 1940’s France and present day Iraq. We american’s are going to, one day, pay a hell of a price for all the ‘collateral damage’ done in our names over the decades. God help us.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  CCRider
November 4, 2017 2:36 pm

” Lincoln successfully used the issue of slavery to mask his power grab right up to the present day.”

I wish more people knew this. Lincoln was one of the most destructive presidents this nation has had, seconded only by Barack Hussein Obama.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Hammer's Thor
November 4, 2017 3:48 pm

Dont forget Wilson. He gave us the fed & got us into the 2 part world war.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  Miles Long
November 4, 2017 4:05 pm

Good point… another glittering jewel of presidential corruption.

Steve C.
Steve C.
November 4, 2017 2:30 pm

It is an age-old axiom that military officers are always fighting the last war rather than the next war…

The US Navy’s obsession with aircraft carriers would likely fall into this category. Modern technology relegates them to being nothing more than huge targets – floating grey whales just waiting to be harpooned…

Not only are they susceptible to modern missiles that fired in salvo would be difficult to stop, but to the silent deadly killer of the simple and inexpensive diesel submarine.

Remember that it was a Russian-built, Kilo-Class boat of the Chinese Navy that surfaced completely undetected in the middle of the vaunted US fleet during their war games off the China coast a few years ago.

Those inexpensive 2,350-ton boats with a crew of 52 can sit stealthily under a temperature thermal while the US fleet passes overhead, rise to torpedo depth and fire a salvo of high explosive torpedoes that could create an air bubble underneath a carrier breaking its back and sending a 15 billion dollar investment to the bottom very quickly. Crew losses would be staggering.

It is true that the attacking submarine would then be easily detected and destroyed by US escorts, but the exchange of a 2,350 ton diesel powered boat with a crew of 52 for a 95,000 ton nuclear powered carrier with a crew of about 6,000 is one that any military strategist would willingly make all day long.

It’s interesting to note that these are the exact same diesel boats that the Iranian Navy employs.

Not only do the Kilos pose a threat, but add the very high-speed Russian Shqval torpedo, which the Iranians claim to have and they would be near impossible to stop from inflicting serious harm to our carriers.

A confrontation with the US and Iranian Navy (to steal Iran’s natural gas of course) would likely have the same result sending the obsolescent US super-carriers to the bottom of the Arabian Sea within the first three days…

How long do you think that Joe and Jane American would stand for watching our ‘Super Carriers’ with all their crews and loved ones going to the bottom before demanding, “Something must be done?” Things would probably escalate quickly and badly for all parties.

I think Paul Craig Roberts was right in everything other than the title of his article. It should have been,

“What if tomorrow comes and we aren’t here to see it?”

The lunatics are running the asylum.

And the home team will always have the advantage…

Steve C.
Spring, Texas

AC
AC
November 4, 2017 2:43 pm

The bottom line is that Russian military procurement is aimed at providing effective weapon systems to their military; American military procurement is aimed at providing massive profits to particular people. (the hardware produced is, obviously in many cases, an afterthought that rarely functions properly) – the parallels with American educational procurement are surprising (Textbooks are a good example – extremely poor quality and extremely high price).

Both nations appear to successfully accomplish their goals.

Russian troops appear to exist to comprise an actual military organization; American troops exist solely to justify the military spending – in much the same way that students in American public schools have come to be viewed as a necessary inconvenience, required in justifying educational spending by the school administrators, and serving no purpose otherwise.

The Russians have an advantage in that they have a relatively cohesive culture – roughly 78% ethnic Russian, with the remainder comprised of a multitude of other groups which each amount to a small percentage of the population of the country. The Russian core of their society share common interests.

America is about 63% American, with the remainder mainly comprised of two ethnic groups – blacks and Latin-American hispanics, both of these groups are each roughly about 15% of the total population. Our major population groups have interests which are at odds with each other.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
November 4, 2017 2:57 pm

FROM PCR’s Article:
“Do you not agree that it is outrageous, astounding, inexcusable, inexplicable, reckless and irresponsible that the Democratic Party, the print and TV media, the military/security complex that is supposed to protect us, and the liberal/progressive/left are working hand in glove to destroy the human race?

Why is there so much opposition to normalizing relations with a nuclear power? Why did even the Greens jump on the anti-Trump propaganda bandwaggon. Don’t the Greens understand the consequences of nuclear war?

Why is there such a crazed, insane effort to eject a president who wants to normalize relations with Russia?

Why are these questions not part of the public discourse?

The failure of political leadership, of media, of the intellectual class in Ameria is total.

The rest of the world must find some means of quarantining Washington before the evil destroys life on earth.”

This is the question that needs to be asked, over and over and over. I think the narrative that Russia supports Iran (which it does) is what keeps people from trusting Russia (and rightfully so). If the Iranians were screaming Death to Russia, I think this would be a no-brainer, but our own interference in the middle east (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.) has set the table for us. Short-sighted. Now we have Saudi Arabia seeking nuclear weapons. That’s a fucking great idea if I ever heard one, right?

I find it convenient, and helpful, that the people who are least trustworthy (McCain, Graham, Flake, Boehner (thankfully gone) and the entire left) are also the ones who oppose Trump. I also think that we are beginning to wake up to the treasonous acts of these characters, and perhaps cooler heads will become elected in 2018 and these fools now will be relegated to writing books that no one will read and appearing on news shows that no one will watch.

A fabulous win-win would be to see the reasonable people of Iran take control of their country from the radical fundamentalists, relations normalized with Russia, and our complete withdrawal from the ME.

We should stop saber-rattling and make use of what’s left of our powerful economic engine to convince rogue nations (Iran, the Norks, and Sweden) to behave themselves. It can be done.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
  Hammer's Thor
November 4, 2017 5:47 pm

Thor….the ‘greens’ have been communist since 1990; that is why they do not support Trump.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
November 4, 2017 6:40 pm

See what happened when monkeys learned about gun powder? It caused a massive explosion of conceptual thinking that changed the world. Look at the changes that has happened in the last 400 years verses that last 10,000 years. In the last 100 years humanity has entered into a flood of information. Humanity has entered into the electronic age. Nothing like this has happened in the past.

What GOD sees in this is a Dramatic Universe waking up from the slumber of entropy. There are four states of matter in the universe. Electronic, think of the stars and our Sun. Molecular: the planets. Mineral; earth. Cellular… organic life. Only life overcomes entropy because it eats to keep it’s energy going.

GOD is indeed the facilitator of this.

The military is the only form of organization that can do. Democracy cannot do. One can look at the present leadership of all the democratic nations to see that democracy causes the destruction of order. Where can one demonstrate that mob rule is beneficial to mankind?

Humanity is going through a cycle where corrupt minds are in the power positions. This is true for both government and corporations. These corrupt minds are using digital money for their own agendas. But because these corrupt minds have lost their spiritual connection with the universe their minds are going insane. And this a a natural fact because that is what GOD does to corrupt minds that serve themselves rather than him.

Humanity will get through this.

The military has a role to play in all this. I have high hope for the military of the world. Once the corrupt political structures of the world fall into the dustpan of their inevitable ruin it will be the military that will bring order out of the chaos and unity back into diversity.

ubercynic
ubercynic
November 4, 2017 9:33 pm

Even during the Cold War, a plausible case could be made that Russian military procurement was more efficient – i.e. more bang for the buck – than American. Now, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it is far more efficient.

WRT Thunderbird @ 11/4/17 6:40 pm: One more bit of evidence for my pet theory that religion is largely driven by the widespread propensity to misconstrue baldly asserted incoherency as profound.

GilbertS
GilbertS
November 4, 2017 9:37 pm

Actually, I think this is a silly topic. I don’t believe the Russians wake up planning to decimate America. I think they want what everyone wants- to make their nation stronger. Since we meddle with everyone else, it’s hard to feel offended when they try to improve things for themselves and run into our interests. I figure Russians want a stronger Russia, just like Americans want a stronger America. Since America fucks with everyone else, it’s inevitable that anyone trying to improve things for their side will run into our side. When Russia fucks with their neighbors, it’s hard to pretend we’re outraged when we’ve done the same thing since day 1.

I can’t pretend to be an expert on the US military, but I have deployed with them a couple times and I have some opinions.
During one field exercise with my brigade, I was in the headquarters and headquarters company. I was in the nerve center, our TOC, for the setup and operations. During those operations (this was over 10 years ago), we suffered numerous network and power problems. When the network was down and when power was out, we were stuck dead in the water. We waited while who knows what happened to our subordinate battalions. Despite our immense pile of shit we took to the field, I felt we were sadly lacking in the most basic tools of all: pens and paper and plastic overlays. My After Action Review comment was we should not rely on tech solely to solve problems we could work out with pens, pencils, paper, and plastic overlays. That’s Old School. My shitass creepy major stole that AAR for his own AAR. I think this illustrates one of our Achilles’ Heels- we’re too tech-dependent and hopelessly lost when the tech doesn’t work.

If anyone wants to fight the US military, their first clear goal must be to eliminate our technical and power advantage. Jamming radio comms, clipping ground wires, and EMPing our circuits would stop us before we start.

Our comms are another weakness. A few years ago, I read an article describing a DOD wargame in which the OPFOR was commanded by a USMC general who was smart as balls. He notionally carried out all comms using runners and motorcycle dispatch riders. With no radios or computers or cellphones to exploit, the US commander lost and claimed the OPFOR cheated. It was a clear illustration of our primary weakness- tech. We assume the enemy fights like we do, so we can exploit him like we would ourselves. Aaaaand when he doesn’t play by those rules, we suck.

I do not know if Russian equipment is as good as or better than ours, but I find it fascinating to look at them when I can. I know their old stuff sucked. The old Soviet army was very much the same army that fought WWII. They’ve had 25+ years to learn from their old mistakes and steal our best ideas. They’re also great at coming up with their own solutions. If you want to see the Russian advances, compare their 1991 Soviet gear (I used to be a collector, so I know a bit about their gear) to their current-issue stuff. Your best reference is probably their sudden arrival in Crimea a few years ago. Then, you had a great opportunity to see the “Friendly Green Men” in action.

One of the things I find fascinating about the Russians is their ability to find alternative solutions to problems. For instance, in the 1940s, they were already using a medical procedure using virii that kill bacteria, known as Bacteriophages, or Phage Therapy, to fight infections. That is an issue we’re only talking about now here in the West decades later because we ignored this development to chase antibiotics and ignored their simpler solution. And I’m sure you’ve heard the story about how we spent tons of money developing a pen to write in space, while Cosmonauts just used pencils.

The Russians have one big advantage over us- They haven’t been constantly fighting around the world for the last 15 years. While that does give you a lot of experience, it also drains your military. 10 years ago, I read a GAO report that said the military was facing a serious budget and equipment shortfall due to the unexpected wear and tear on their equipment from years of constant combat. Apparently, the DOD has long-term plans for equipment lifespan and wearout that don’t include the actual possibility of combat, which quickly grinds down gear. It’s so bad, in some cases we just abandon equipment and vehicles when we redeploy back to the US.

Despite a lack of overseas deployments, they haven’t been sitting on their hands-they’ve been fighting their own War on Terror for a lot longer than we have and Russians were serving in peacekeeping ops all over the former USSR for years after 1991.

GilbertS
GilbertS
  Stucky
November 5, 2017 8:51 am

How about the Chechnya wars, their peacekeeping operations in Nagorno Karabakh, Tadjikistan, Moldova, Abkhazia & Ossetia (Georgia)? Also, how about their 2008 invasion of Georgia? That was a humiliating defeat for them and the US. At the time, I read they found US equipment so inferior, they didn’t even bother to take mountains of captured M16s.

The Russians also made a huge end run on the US/NATO when they took the Kosovo Airport in 1999 before NATO forces could get there, disrupting our plans immensely and using the airport as a bargaining chip to secure their own peacekeeping role in Kosovo, against the wishes of US and NATO commanders, who feared Russians would create a partitioned Serbian enclave in the north.

In 2013, the Russians resumed their submarine patrols, canceled since the 1990s. In 2014, Russia resumed their long-range bomber patrols, also canceled since the 1990s. (This was seen as a huge provocation by the mainstream media, although I don’t believe we stepped down from our aggressive posture, so to me it’s just tit for tat.)

In the past, Russia cut off natural gas shipments to the Ukraine (prior to the coup, Crimea, and Novorossia secession) and Europe. They cut off gas several times during the 2000s to protest Ukrainian chicanery.

Also, did you read about the Russians laying claim to the North Pole? They claim an extended piece of their contintental shelf runs there, allowing them to claim it as Russia’s territorial waters for mining and fishing purposes.

Steve C.
Steve C.
November 4, 2017 9:46 pm

Stucky – I think that your question regarding how good Russia’s military equipment is compared to ours needs to be considered from the design purpose of Russia’s military versus that of the US.

If you look at Russia’s defense force, it is exactly that – a DEFENSE force. Aside from the nuclear bomb loaded ICBM’s that are a retaliatory weapon, most everything else is designed around protecting the motherland.

They are one of only two countries that have a true interceptor aircraft – the MiG-31 Foxbat. The other one being Iran with what’s left of the F-14 Tomcats that they bought from us (and sold some to the USSR years ago).

The last US Air Force interceptor was the F-106 Delta Dart. It was retired decades ago (1988). The Navy’s last was the F-14. It was designed to protect the fleet – a job the F-18 cannot ever hope to accomplish. It was cancelled by that moron Cheney when he was secretary of defense and retired in 2006.

The MiG-31 is a high-speed (Mach 2.8+ at altitude) long-range interceptor that carries seven long-range air-to-air missiles. It doesn’t need a whole lot of stealth, as the biggest limitation of stealth is that it’s only stealthy until you activate its search radar. That’s like shining a flashlight in the dark. Everyone can see where you are.

The MiG-31 relies on a network of ground-based radars to send it the radar location information of any enemy intruders. That data can be uploaded to its targeting radar without ever needing its also very good onboard air search radar. It’s that home field advantage thing and the Russians are good at taking advantage of it (unlike the Dodgers).

The MiG-31 is no dogfighter, but it was never designed to be. Its job is defense not offense.

They are already working on a replacement for the MiG-31. The MiG-41 is planned to fly at Mach 4.0-4.3 and will likely have at least the same number of long-range missiles (7) as the MiG-31. Firing in salvos is a part of their tactics.

http://tapnewswire.com/2016/01/russias-new-mig-41-to-fly-over-mach-4-0/

At Mach 4, it will also be able to fly faster than any missiles fired at it. All of their thinking is defending their homeland.

Literally all of the US defense design is for offense not defense. A 95,000-Ton nuclear aircraft carrier is useless at protecting the US homeland. Our fighters are all aggressive and not a decent interceptor in the mix.

If we do get into enemy territory, we will have to contend with Su-35’s, and MiG-35’s. They are as good as or better than our F-15’s, F-18’s and F-35’s. The Su-35 costs half as much as the supposedly low-cost F-35 Turkey and has an operational rate more than twice the Turkey. Four Su-35 versus one F-35 or F-15 is a lot to ask of our pilots.

The US has built a military force designed around being the world’s bully. The Russians have built one around protecting themselves from the assholes in Washington DC and their equipment is damned good.

Just my 2-cents…

Steve C.
Spring, Texas

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Steve C.
November 4, 2017 10:02 pm

I really enjoy your learned and intelligent comments.

TampaRed-
TampaRed-
  Steve C.
November 4, 2017 11:33 pm

“Literally all of the US defense design is for offense not defense. A 95,000-Ton nuclear aircraft carrier is useless at protecting the US homeland. Our fighters are all aggressive and not a decent interceptor in the mix.”

The US long ago made the decision to fight on the other guy’s land,not ours.
We have not fought a serious war in the continental US since the War of 1812.

Hammer's Thor
Hammer's Thor
  TampaRed-
November 5, 2017 1:06 am

Actually seems like a pretty good strategy to me.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
November 5, 2017 5:50 am

Same here,

Thanks for taking that time Steve.

GilbertS
GilbertS
  Steve C.
November 5, 2017 9:17 am

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Contrast these conscripts with the Polite Green Men of modern Russia.

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Those poor Russian women… They’re so poor, they can’t even afford to wear winter coats or pants!
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Barney
Barney
November 4, 2017 9:48 pm

I really liked the book-The 33 strategies of war, by Robert Greene.
Large scale conflict seems quite possible these days.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
November 5, 2017 7:56 am

The United States has a political structure and a military structure. The political structure seems to be breaking down.

The United States started as a Republic with a Senate that represented the individual States. It has sense deteriorated into a democracy with a Senate that now represents the Corporations.

We know from history that democracy is a bad form of government that eventually fails because it cannot solve problems due to to many diverse opinions. Therefore no vision for the future can be formed. This is because the majority is self serving.

So as time proceeds on, the political structure of this nation is going to collapse. In fact it is presently collapsing.

Many people in high places say we are a country that lives by the “rule of law.” They expect the people to honor that tradition.

It is true that the “rule of law” is a good guide providing that the law has a solid foundation based on natural and moral premises. Unfortunately Administrative Law which has circumscribed our constitutional law has no natural and moral foundation. It has become a tool for corrupt legislators, administrators and city council members who use it for their own selfish interests. It has even corrupted the judicial system.

So the political system operating in the self interest of those in charge using the corrupt version of the “rule of law” is destroying the trust of the general population in the “rule of law”. This is leading to a breakdown on order as we are now witnessing.

As this continues it can only lead to a military takeover of the reigns of government and the current corrupted government we now have will cease to exist.

Another failed democracy will go down in history. Is it not true that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?

lmorris
lmorris
November 5, 2017 8:28 am

IF not able to kill every thing in sight you lose, You can not fight a war with both hands behind your back even in Viet Nam we had to get the OK to do every thing I’m sorry war is hell and me after that crap I’m killing every one that I don’t know if you screw with me.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  lmorris
November 5, 2017 8:38 am

“…Battle doesn’t determine who is right. Only who is left…” — Attributed to both Peter Bowman (from ‘Beach Red) and to Bertrand Russell

Steve C.
Spring, Texas

overthecliff
overthecliff
November 5, 2017 7:45 pm

It does not matter if we have technological superiority. The USA does not have the will to commit the violence it takes to win. To win you must kill a lot of people and intimidate those who are left. Not willing to do that? You eventually lose.

Daniel C
Daniel C
January 18, 2019 11:38 am

Interesting article – and completely false.

Let’s put aside extreme points of view – such as saying the US (or anyone) could “crush anyone” else aside. That’s just knocking down a strawman.

This article is so false in so many of its statements, presentations of “fact”, allusions, and analytical conclusion that one doesn’t know where to begin. Instead of the 100 points that could easily be drafted – we’ll keep it to just a few.

1) US forces are far better trained than their Russian counterparts. With the exception of a few selected units – in all services the Russians are less trained, and their units are far less capable of comprehensive operations. Even recent Russian performance would show that.
2) US weapons are superior to their Russian counterpart weapons. This is true of past, present, and future (soon to be) weapons. There might be an exception here or there, because of the comeback of the Russian military – but not that’s about it. There simply is no evidence – none – to support the alternate premise in this article. In fact, the Syrian War largely proves it, and this is true with both land and air weapons.
3) No, the Soviet 40th Army didn’t perform better than the US military’s performance in Afghanistan. The exact reverse of this statement is true. Any honest historical analysis would conclude this.
4) The US didn’t lose the Iraq war. The US won. Yes, it’s messy, and no nation-building per se didn’t work. But the war was won. Note that 15 years after the fact, Iraq has a functioning (albeit messy) democracy, and two separate terrorist regimes have failed.
5) A US strike against Iran or the DPRK, should it come to that – is unlikely to fail. This is not to say that a perfect solution would occur (see other wars, but fail, no?)
6) The US did not launch a ground war against Serbia – but the buildup and preparation for it was a clear reason for ending the war on favorable terms for Kosovo.
7) The sortie generation of US aircraft in the Syrian campaign is far superior to the Russian Air Force. Simple fact. Hard to screw up this – but apparently the author did.
8) The Rafale and Leclerc are superb weapons system – but the Rafale in particular is not cheaper than its US competitor. Primarily for economies of scale and other industrial reasons.
9) Finally – unlike what is inferred and implied – Russian and Chinese military experts are under no illusions about having real superiority over the US (though some Chinese generals appear delusional, and are therefore a bit dangerous).

It’s hard to figure out if this article, which is not just factually challenged but outright false in its conclusions – is this a result of delusion, malicious intent, or that seriously ignorant?