Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer
The number of errors in this report exceeds the number of facts.
She’s not talking about farms, but CAFO’s- which is like condemning Amazon practices by calling them a Mom & Pop store.
The reason they use the words farms and farmers is because that’s what they are targeting, not the Industrial Ag producers.
One more time for those in the cheap seats- grass fed beef cattle produce NO methane.
The only people farmers ever killed were occupation troops of a tyrannical government.
Air Pollution from U.S. Farms Linked to 17,900 Deaths a Year, Says New Study
May 12, 2021
Using new air-quality tracking technology, a benchmark study has been able to link increased mortality with proximity to livestock farms.
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The climate change leftists are coming for your hamburger. Control the food, control the population. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/05/kamala-harris-of-course-we-must-regulate-how-much-meat-americans-are-eating-n2552644 Remember it is not about Climate Change, it is about you!
Don’t they mean Climate Chains?
Can they name the 17,900 people “killed”? It might be a good reason to go grab a burger if it’ll help kill a lawyer or professor or . . .
Then I’ll gladly recycle the SOBs using my tractor and soil microbes.
That’s how you get Creuzfeld-Jacobs. Or is it Tay-Sachs.
Whatever. Don’t recycle the (((them)))
I decided to check out the air quality reporting site run by our overlords- AirNow.gov
The I checked where I live (Good) Brooklyn, NY (Good) and the site of the largest CAFO in the USA, Grand View, Idaho (Good).
So either the Government is lying (I know, I know), the Weather Channel is lying ( I know, I know 2.0) or they don’t really have a new air quality tracking technology.
Who knows what these people are up to anymore, I just connect the dots and keep my hands on the plow.
I would have thought an intelligent person such as yourself would be able to see whats happening. The targeting by the communists is ALL conservatives and Christians. They even spell it out in their manifesto’s.
They have to eliminate all small farms(ers) because they represent individualism and independence. If you are not dependent on the government then you cannot be so easily controlled and you might influence others to be more independent thinking… a very big danger to those that rule.
Communists today will use ‘science’ so called, to set the narrative, then they will fallow it with a manufactured crisis to justify their righteous targeting of the offending group. So they’ll say small farmers products are causing increased biological mutations of (insert biologic agent) because of the lack of controls or (over)use of say antibiotics, which most small farmers stay away from. They did that with milk here in British Communista, you are not ‘allowed’ to buy or sell raw milk.
Small farm(ers) don’t grease palms… therein lay the problem.
Most big farmers are hard core democrats.
How can anybody have a monetary failure about every year yet still drive new pick-ups.
Go to a USDA office and see the books with all the matching funding on each bag of seed and fertilizer.
They are no better than welfare queens and bitch about as much.
I think they spilt their contributions, to hedge their bets by not offending the next pie slicer.
Consider these 10 fast facts regarding the harvesting of farm subsidies:
Very expensive mistakes: The Dept. of Agriculture admitted to $3.7 billion in “improper payments” processed since 2004. Just in the past two years, $650 million in subsidy overpayments were shelled out to farmers. In 2011, the Internal Revenue Service reported that $1.1 billion was paid to 172,801 deceased farmers over a six-year period.
Not the traditional family farm: The top five recipients reaped between $18.6 million and $23.8 million apiece since 2008. Additionally, subsidies of over $10 million apiece flowed to 18 individual farming entities.
The rich got richer: Over $11 billion in farm subsidies flowed to just 6,618 lucky recipients who received at least $1 million since 2008.
Subsidies flow to urban areas where there are no farms: Between years 2015 and 2017, more than $626 million flowed to recipients in America’s urban areas – cities with over a quarter million residents and no farms.
City slicker farmers: Residents living in America’s five most populated cities received $18 million in farm subsidies. These cities included Chicago ($7.7 million), Houston ($5.8 million), New York City ($2.8 million), Los Angeles ($1.6 million), and Philadelphia ($309,000).
Welfare to wealthy farmers: One out of every four dollars in farm subsidies went to someone who received $250,000 or more that year.
The Beverly Hillbillies et al: Prosperous people living in the nation’s 150 most affluent ZIP Codes cleaned off nearly $5 million in farm subsidies last year. Residents living in these areas included 90210–Beverly Hills, CA ($15,488); 10022–New York City, NY ($83,169); and 96750–Hawaii County, Hawaii ($230,697).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/08/14/mapping-the-u-s-farm-subsidy-1-million-club/?sh=490c8caf3efc
I live rurally , surrounded by soybeans and cornfields . All my neighbors and many friends are farmers . Not that I wouldn’t do the same thing if in the same boat , but subsidies keep them afloat as they are financially leveraged up to their ass . They have off years and great years , but live quite comfortably , unlike their forefathers who first busted sod on a gamble and a prayer . The government “kickers” are substantial . Check out environmental working group”s website and search farm subsidy recipients by zipcode , ewg.com , they are listed by name and amounts received . At the farm and home stores here you will be asked is that tax or non tax for ag use . Their kids were the biggest assholes in the world , with new pickups and attitudes , they are put on the honor rolls for betting B’s in ag , shop , p.e , and half day work release cop programs . Not all are big feeders at the government trough , but some are complete jerks who only have what they have by being shot out a certain womb by the birth lottery and biding their time till elder family members handed down the farm (s) . Once the crops are in the bin , or sold off to ADM , they have more or less November till April off work , unless they also have livestock , which is year round work , but most livestock here is sent off to finishers , consortiums of feed lots types . In spite of all this , they do work hard and have my respect , and have helped me out many times . Except a few blowhards that are full of themselves .
I didn’t mean to be so hard on them as I too have grown up around them, and actually do small scale organic farming.
But one can not tell them a dang thing about anything, and no more even come close to understanding how the fungus on a root cap takes up nutrients than a red butt monkey. Just throw some ammonia nitrate on it they would say.
My father-in-law, big university ag grad to a T… poison this , poison that and then bitch about the poor soil quality. I showed him a trick or two…thanks to Robert Rodale…may he RIP
It’s good to hear this (what all of you above are saying) from someone else for once.
I asked my neighbor and kin why he was receiving thousands in farm subsidies. He said it was because he lost hay. LOL…he’s a weekend farmer as best.
Everything is a racket. No one wills stand against the corruption until their slice of the pie of appeasement is taken away. Got UBI ?
You can see how much free shit your “farmer” neighbor is getting linked below . I was blown away…and these are the same “conservative” ignorant asshats whining about the 2 or 3 hundred on some poor dumb-asses’ EBT card.
Search for farm subsidy recipients in the U.S.
https://farm.ewg.org/search.php
Another database of freeshitters that might surprise you.
https://covidbailouttracker.com/
Thanks for the link. I had no idea that existed. Almost all my neighbors show up for my zipcode.
G.R.E.E.D
The target is Whitey. The targetors are organized international Jewry. Biology is upstream from culture and ideology. This conflict has always been about racial dominance, even though White man is the last to catch on.
I live a middling drive from Grand View, Idaho and stop there when going camping in the nearby Owyhee mountains. The air is perfectly fine.
John Coleman, the original founder/meteorologist, founded Weather dot com in 1980. He’s dead now but, when he was alive, he debated the Al Gore’s of the world on the false climate change narrative. NBC bought the Weather Channel in 2008 and ever since, it has been another platform to spread the climate change agenda.
Does anyone really believe the MSM anymore ?
“One more time for those in the cheap seats- grass fed beef cattle produce NO methane.”
farmer,
i don’t recall ever seeing that b4 you just posted it–do you have a link to a source?
it needs to be shouted from the rooftops–
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-health-literacy/how-cows-eat-grass#:~:text=Cows%20are%20known%20as%20%E2%80%9Cruminants,stomach%20is%20called%20the%20rumen.&text=This%20process%20of%20swallowing%2C%20%E2%80%9Cun,more%20completely%2C%20which%20improves%20digestion.
Cows are ruminants with four chambered stomachs designed to breakdown cellulose- grasses.
Cattle and milk cows are fed a diet of corn/soy/feeds which are seed grains. The fermentation process of grains in a four chambered stomach produce gasses that grass does not. The reasoning for feeding an animal something it cannot properly digest is that the American palette prefers the fat and that it is too costly to feed an entirely grass based diet to beef cattle and that dairy cattle “need” the supplemental protein provided by corn/silage/feeds. Since 90% or more of all cattle in America are fed diets based on what works best for Industrial Ag producers, they are trying to shift the blame to “farmers”, or small family based operations that are sustainable and feed their animals a natural diet.
HSF… this video presents some interesting information about carbon emissions. I’m not saying I believe it, but it explains a bit about the sudden support for the idea of a carbon tax.
This is just an example of what the video offers… now, again, am not saying I believe it. Just that “someone” or a lot of Someones are promoting it.
How in the world would they know this?
(BTW? When I was a kid, Dad took me out to the clover field where a couple of cows had gotten through the electric fence and were eating the dew-laden clover, which caused them to bloat. My father would puncture the gas-filled abdominal cavity, releasing the gas. Then, to entertain me… he lit the gas and let it spark across the field as the cows were all a little gassy from the wet clover seed.)
WTH? How do you puncture the gas-filled abdominal cavity without harming the cow?
You can’t be serious.
Permanent Rumen Fistula. We kept a cow with one of those around at the veterinary teaching hospital. Rumenotomies are no fun. The only thing that smells worse than cow rumen is dog anal gland contents. Ya can’t wash the smell of either one off…you have to wear it off.
Try rubbing hands with an old dead fish, then rinse with kerosine.
God came down to the Garden of Eden. He spotted Adam and asked him where Eve was. Adam said she is down at the shore bathing.
God replied, “Damn it, I will never get the smell off the fish!”
llpoh,
that’s a pretty good one–
did methuselah tell it to you?
Haha, you funny. Some jokes deserve the occasional retelling. Gotta keep them alive generation to generation.
The ice pick did not even scar.
Dad used a huge ice pick. Cows are pretty tough.
While it might have frightened the cow, the relief from the painful bloat comes quicly.
Lighting the gas was educational.
So, you’re saying simply stab the cow with an ice pic?
\So, you’re saying simply stab the cow with an ice pic?
You have to create a vent so the pent up gasses in the cow’s stomach can escape. The same problem can happen to sheep, dogs, horses and other ruminants. You eat too much at Thanksgiving and your little tummy can also bloat up. Generally antacids are preferred over ice picks in human bloat cases.
See the hose method below at 10:07.
In the Winter, we need to give cows all the hay they want plus a quart of grain each day to keep them healthy until Spring. Anybody that thinks vegetable burgers are as healthy as real meat or thinks cow farts are causing a CO2 problem has shit for brains (i.e., Urban Democrats). TBTB hate US Deplorables like they hate Palestinians and are working hard to murder US all. Come out of Her My People; Secede from the SOBs and let them starve on their vegetable burgers.
Hear, here!
How?
Ice pick by a very big, strong man works, too.
Light the gas with a match to entertain hick kids.
Just use a hose.
https://www.4wileyfarm.com/blog—down-on-the-farm/battling-bloat#:~:text=Basically%2C%20you%20stick%20a%20garden,stomach%20gasses%20fills%20the%20barn.
Never knew that and good to know. Next time I’m in a dust-up with a vegan I’ll lay that one on them.
My wife and I have been buying beef locally from a small farm for several years. All grass-fed. We do still shop at the store for the corn-fed stuff when it’s on sale or reduced for being set to expire. What initially surprised us when we gave up the store-bought stuff was how lean the beef fed a grass diet was in comparison. Well, actually there is no comparison.
Hamburger when cooked in a pan reduces to almost no fat. It smells better while cooking. I have been told by the farmer that the cows are happier. His reasoning is that they were not designed to eat corn in the first place.
Yeah, it’s small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, what we are doing makes a small mark but methinks it’s best to support local farms. It is the only real way to increase food security. Like many, the land I own I can’t farm for livestock. I’ll grow what I can in meantime. That and sharpening some real skills that I can trade to a meal on my table someday.
Anyways this report is good news Art of War stuff!
Thinking they are strong the fools are now exposing Their agenda.
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But, why eat something unhealthy when you don’t have to? Even the cooking methods of grilling and searing are unhealthy and are known to cause cancer.
MEAT VS. PLANT PROTEIN: 14 FOODS GO HEAD-TO-HEAD
We take a closer look at the protein count when comparing some top choices from these two food groups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnsAyX1C8U
If God wanted us to be vegan, he would not have made grilled meat smell and taste so good. He also gave us dominion over animals, which means we get to eat them.
He also gave you dominion over your wife. Does that mean you also ………….. ah, never mind.
Pussy, the word is pussy…not pousse. This is a pousse…don’t want to eat that, oh no
The huge flaw in the cows/meat bad, grains/farming better lie is the fact that much of the land used for grazing is absolutely useless for growing crops. Then you have folk like Allan Savory, a pioneer in rotational grazing…
I get all my beef from a local farmer and it’s all grass-fed. No grains, no corn, nothing but grass and hay. It’s $8.50 a pound for ground, but well worth it.
That is one thing Oz has that is cheaper than the US. You can get good beef here – TBone for instance, for around $7 a pound if you look around. I just bought some nice rib eye for about $8.50 a pound.
I’m going to rewrite this headline.
US Farms Save 349,982,100 Lives Every Year
…And countless billions around the globe
Actually Organic farming only represents 2-4% of farming, the remainder is GMO and sprayed with deadly and disease causing glyphosate. GMO/Glyphosate is not healthy by any means. It is important to understand the lie that Monsanto, in particular, at the time put forward about greater crop yields with their products. It was all a ruse to 1) gain patients on seeds and 2) sell their products. Some say that if the Organic farming and purchasing were to get to 7% that would be the tipping point and that healthy food would win the day.
Aside from growing your own food, some simple things you can do to have healthy food is:
1. Buy Organic food (if not available buy non-GMO)
2. Buy grass fed beef
3. Do not purchase any processed foods
4. Eliminate all seed oils
In other words EAT REAL FOOD!
The only real caveat to this is not everything labeled ‘organic; is organic. There are a ton of loop holes and work arounds for be able to label organic. Its become a racket as well. Better info is to know where your food comes from… takes some research or just getting to know a local farmer.
I went to a local “tea party” meeting last night.
People, regular folks who never ever thought about using guns to defend themselves from govt intrusions are beginning to talk about that being needed in the not too distant future. Mostly Boomers in attendance. Even the ladies were speaking with a steely determination to hold the line on infringements.
The natives are getting pissed and the BS is only beginning. They realize govt control fences are being built on many levels.
It’s startling what’s happening. None of it makes any logical sense other than a totalitarian regime is being installed. Just remarkable.
I have been at a local meeting as well only 4 of us…I’m not going to put in the details as the defensive action discussed had offensive ‘what if’ components that were stark, brutal, and ugly.
None of us will be getting on a bus or going quietly into the night.
Never in my lifetime had I thought I would be part of this type of conversation…until Obama was re-selected. Now…the time to fight or die draws near…and all those years of prep…especially mental prep is upon me.
Grim realization is seeping into brutal determination among some.
Having 3 local friends of a like mind who are steeling themselves and considering what the meeting was about as well is comforting.
No man is an island…and I suspect mini tribes are forming all over the country.
One is most likey a FBI informant. Bet on it.
flash,
Not out of these 3…
But that is a reason I will not join any other larger group…two of which have approached me.
I have no doubt I have long been identified through AI…I think that would almost be impossible not to have already happened.
Whata ya gonna DEW?
mark,
your talk about defensive purposes was strictly about defending against lawless marauders,wasn’t it?
making preps to even defend against federales can get you in the fed.pen,it happened several years ago to some guys around here–one of the guys turned out to be an informant–
Tampa,
Didn’t I say I wasn’t going to go into details.
Did I not use the phrase ‘defensive action’ and ‘Grim realization is seeping into brutal determination among some’.
How much more general do you want me to self censor myself out of fear of those who have every intention of committing Part 7:
This starts the 6 parts:
KEY REMINDERS
Never permit yourself to be disarmed.
You need to be lethal, and not afraid to use a weapon.
“Door to door gun collection” means SHTF is about to happen.
All genocide originates from the wealthy leadership.
Stay away from crowds.
When ordered to report to mass collection points – run for the woods.
Your neighbors WILL turn you in.
TAKE A WAYS:
The SHTF and CWII will happen because there is no one undoing the pre-genocidal preparations for it. As such, we can expect the following truths…
You will not know there is a full-on Civil War until you are in the midst of it.
The American Second Civil War (CWII) will be a genocidal event of enormous scale.
There will be an organized effort to disarm prior to the war. It may or may not happen.
The timetable for the war has already been established. It’s going to happen whether everything is in place or not.
The real danger of the progressive liberal army lies well hidden from public scrutiny. It is kept intentionally hidden.
Just like in Rwanda, the conspirators held very secret meetings, and had secret handshakes, and shirts that they wore to identify each other. Chess pieces are moving into place.
Once your hands are tied and bound behind your back it will be too late.
Diversity Officers and their confederates will have you already earmarked as subversive.
Whole-scale mass murder will be the norm.
There will not be any Bill of Rights to protect you when the police are run by progressive liberals.
Refugee camps will be dangerous and unhealthy places to be trapped in.
The news media will not be reporting anything but the most trivial events. At that, it will be slanted in favor of progressives.
The above 6 parts disappears from the net…then is back…I suspect it is under constant censorship…save it if you value its warnings and undeniable historical rea
[U.S. Marines come under Khmer Rouge fire while they were on the ground near the U.S. embassy during Operation Eagle Pull which evacuated American and embassy personnel in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, on April 13, 1975. (Tea Kim Heang/AP)]
Powerful images and memories.
I am just starting part 1 now and am very much downloading these. That quote from above (1975) seems to ask for a revision, doesn’t it?
Think the Taliban will kill everyone who cooperated with the Americans or just half of them. Of the 40 million people still living in Afghanistan, how many do you think will survive the purge Taliban leaders impose?
Maggie,
I think mass murder planet wide is coming on a scale that will dwarf the 20th century carnage.
There is to me a huge gulf in-between being murdered on your knees…and dying on your feet.
There might be some brief extension of time in-between your death if you are play doh compliant, but I have always been a quality over a quantity guy…in a lot of areas.
The armature demons of the 20th century will soon be eclipsed by the prophesied pros of the 21st.
At this advanced stage of the game I am as much about an honorable first death in my ‘Dew on the Grass’ service as I am about whatever death…is my personal end of the beginning.
Now, I am just an outspoken local yokel…so it will take more time for TLPTB (L=Luciferian) to focus on my low level of defiance and unrepentant *KMMWA.
If not for those I am protecting, I would be soooo much more aggressive (and less defense) I would soon be wearing my Coonskin cap…and reloading Ole Betsy…or whatever would/will be my version of her…I have many choices.
“Powerful images and memories. I am just starting part 1 now and am very much downloading these. That quote from above (1975) seems to ask for a revision, doesn’t it”?
These 6 parts are just prologue to the coming 7th.
As far as a revision…for me it is just a matter of when the historical rhyme starts…my plan is to go for head shots from cover.
“Think the Taliban will kill everyone who cooperated with the Americans or just half of them. Of the 40 million people still living in Afghanistan, how many do you think will survive the purge Taliban leaders impose”?
I think the blood bath coming through the bio weaponized injections internationally will make the seed of satan retaliation in Afghanistan small potatoes.
*Kiss My Mick/Wop Ass
They deserve what they get for cooperating with us. If they helped us they helped heroin producers and distributors and are complicit in all the death and misery the final products produced.
Yea…phitttttt…I’m sure every one of them knew all that…for crying out loud No Name…they are from the 6th century…caught in-between two evils…what they deserve is not to be further condemned by self-righteous idiots like you.
Bullshit you self righteous prick. They know full well the evils of it and what they are doing when they side with us. The taliban eradicated the poppy trade after the Ruskies left and we came back in and restarted it. We did the same deal in Vietnam and Columbia and colaboraters deserve any revenge they suffer. If you’re in love with Murika Murika that’s your fault. Kid somebody else asshat.
Now wait a minute nameless one…I called you self righteous first…thats your lead insult???
Hmmm…trying to pull a Pee Wee Herman on me huh???
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I never said anything about being in love with Murika…matter of fact ‘lack of reading comprehension one’…I said they were caught inbetween two evils…did I not?
Same for the serfs in Nam and Columbia…Pee Wee.
Just a joke…but wait a minute…ol’ Clem did off that Federal moonshine charge real light, now didn’t he?
First truly encouraging thing I’ve read all day; in fact, for a good number of days. My sincere wishes for the best of luck for the four of you and others who may be doing the same!
Montefrio,
Thanks my friend.
Just locking down communication betwen us, practicing muscle memory, prepping, prepping, prepping, and when the time comes mutual support of the most vital type.
We are of the same mindset spiritually, culturally, politically and economically.
I think there will be small islands of support across the country. I’m still thinking seriously of relocating to a small island nation where you can grow food year round, take the family with us. I don’t see many here in canukistan that would be willing to actually fight… at least in my area. Keep ur friends close and powder dry mark
brian,
All I know about who is willing to fight…at this stage of the game…are the ones I’m around that I know well enough (and long enough) today…who are close by…to actually know that about them.
All I can say is birds of a feather flock together.
3 of us (with our wives) study the Bible together weekly…the fourth is still drinking milk in that sense, but is progressing at a fast clip.
Two are young enough to be my sons…and one a younger brother…but we are all cut from the same cloth.
They all lurk here…one comments occasionally so who knows…they may even see this?
We will back one another up when push comes to shove to stand (and not submit) when our families are threatened locally.
None of us will get on the bus to hell on earth…except to maybe dispatch the driver and his ilk to his/their…ahhhh reward.
Those who think all Christians won’t fight…don’t know true remnant Christians.
The only thing I ‘Name and Claim’ are my God given rights…and an honorable first death.
What are you studying in your weekly Bible study?
David and Goliath seems likely.
Actually…we have spent multiple studies on the Revelation of Jesus Christ…way more topical for our times.
But I do keep five stones in my pocket at all times.
(And a five round .380 in the pocket of my Bible case).
Currently the life of Solomon (Jedidiah).
I’m in my 6th year with them…they were together years before me.
The group shrank because we refuse to wear masks…and stopped attending the service after they made them mandatory.
More fear porn to control the minds of the non-thinking masses.
I believe that this is all a part of Agenda 2030. The idea is for humans to be moved to centralized cities, human CAFOs if you will, and fed with ‘synthetic’ or fake meat. Vegetables will be vertically grown. Everything will be tagged right down to a coffee bean or lettuce leaf. The tracking will remain with the human waste and be detected within the ‘smart city’ through the ‘smart sewer’ to ensure total compliance. The Ice Age Farmer has spoken to this, here is a short 13 minute video about part of this topic.
Here’s something to think about: By October 2021 by LAW all Americans are supposed to have a REAL ID. I had the option to get one when I renewed my driver’s license in December, but opted to wait. I’ve been looking into it… these IDs will have tracking chips.
https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/new-national-id-systems
“Americans have long rejected a national ID, but many U.S. state governments are quietly developing national ID systems in a variety of forms. One is the uniform identity card system envisioned by the REAL ID Act. That federal law, passed in 2005, seeks to subject state drivers’ licensing to federal data collection and information‐sharing standards that will facilitate identification and tracking.”
http://www.channelingreality.com/nau/real_id.htm
and a screen shot of that page…
These people have a right to know where we are at all times because they own us. Good thing there’s no Hebes among the owners or I’d be worried.
Is this you No Name Pee Wee…good link…I upvoted you…I post links like it all the time…maybe we agree on more than we disagree on?
The people who believe this ridiculous fiction about cows and methane believe making everyone drive an electric car will save the planet. If these men of SCIENCE (cue Thomas Dolby) have their way, I foresee a future that looks like blade runner or the fifth element.
Huh! So cows that eat grass don’t fart? That just doesn’t appear to make sense. But, hey, YOU are the farmer, not me. OTOH, you believe the Earth is flat and you’re not sure about gravity either. So there’s that.
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Articles which agree with you.
“Grass Fed Beef CAN Help Solve Climate Change”
https://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/grass-fed-beef-and-global-warming
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And this one also …
“A new study has just come out from Michigan State: Impacts of soil carbon sequestration on life cycle greenhouse gas emissions in Midwestern USA beef finishing systems was just published in Agricultural Systems. The researchers tracked carbon sequestration over four years. And although the feedlot system produced less emissions (in terms of cow farts,) when looking at the entire lifecycle system, cattle raised in the AMP management system produced a net carbon SINK. The emissions were completely offset by the amount of carbon sequestered in the ground. And not just a little bit of carbon, it was a significant amount.”
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Articles which do NOT agree with you.
And there are a LOT of them. Thousands, really.
“Studies have shown that grass-fed cattle produce 20% more methane in their lifetime than grain-fed cattle.”
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Bottom Line? When a person is completely unfamiliar with a topic — in my case, farming, cows and cow farts — it is exceedingly difficult to determine which expert is correct.
As such, I believe the only logical thing I can do is to say — “Fukit, gimme another hamburger please!”
It isn’t that the cows do not fart. The farts just do not stink.
When all of this came about a few years back someone challenged me on this exact same issue- I think it was you but I wouldn’t bet on it. So I bought a methane detector for about $80 ( I wish I had it back) just to satisfy my own curiosity. During the Winter the cattle spend most of their time in the loafing shed, a 72×20 open barn where they can get out of the weather. That’s where they spend a good portion of their day eating and digesting and one would assume, farting. The detector never picked up any amount of methane above 1800ppb which is LOWER than a normal background reading, according to the EPA. I still have the detector and you are welcome to give it a shot if you come up here just so you can see for yourself.
My neighbor has a larger herd and he feeds them grain- they get bigger a lot faster and it costs more, but that’s his business. He let me throw the monitor in his barn and the results were four times higher than mine. Correlation? It looks that way, but I’m not the EPA.
Different products produce different levels of all gasses as they decompose- yes, even grass produces some, but other inputs, especially complex sugars as found in corn, produce much higher levels.
You ever wonder why alcohol isn’t made from grass, but from corn and fruit?
Well, you see, that’s quite a different story than your original comment that grass fed cows produce “NO methane”.
I don’t need to check your Fart-O-Meter. I believe you.
The vast majority of Grass-Fed-Cows-Are-Bad websites are .gov, or .edu, or websites with “Save The Earth” type names in their URL. Sources with an agenda, I believe, which I reject.
The article that made the most sense to me, a complete neophyte, is the one from Sustainable Dish which goes beyond only looking (or, smelling) cow farts but, rather analyses the question from an “entire lifecycle system” point of view. Seems to me to be the most reasonable way to answer the question.
When you’re not sure, act in accord with Nature.
Actually that works all the time.
But if you’re still confused, cui bono?
In other news: it has been determined that birth has a 100% fatality rate on a long enough timeline.
Fucken false equivalence lovin shit baggery. They can get my steak when they pry it from my digestive tract… or the next deuce I drop.
ZFG, out.
P.S. Obey the Cowgod
I wonder who paid to fund the ‘study’? And how many lives does farming SAVE from starvation?
Ur not supposed to ask them questions…
True? Holy shiite. The lies seem to be most prevalent in what they DON’T tell you.
All creatures that have digestive tracks use bacteria to help process the food. There are many (billions) of humans and a normal human can fart up to two liters of gas in a 24 hour period. Blaming cows is just an excuse to push a wrongheaded, bullshit climate change agenda.
If those lies were true, the pollution from China alone would be responsible for the deaths of BILLIONS every year.
And, if cows are the problem, India has killed the entire world’s population several times over every year.
Well “next” is just some more of “previous.”
The area rug’s been pulled out from under & roll-roll-rolled up from the get – & not just in farming.
Unless you pull up, get some flat world viewing altitude on it & mean farming of the farmed “citizenry,” the milk cows & beef critters. From that vantage, it’s all just farming. Morlocks & Eloi & the arrow of time machine shot into the gibbeted gullible, forever. Barkeep, another round of soylent green for my friends.
For Jefferson to propound agrarian smallholds in the face of what he knew the fascia-ist strictures were – always are – couldn’t be any more controlled opposition good cop give ‘em just enough hopium (that Hunger Games bit).
None of those made guys were good guys – even if the worst that could be said of particular ones is that they were naïve, playing checkers by the rules against no rules bareknuckle chess’ters (which I don’t ascribe to el Jeffe one bit; he knew).
Closer to it:
School I wasted time in had an agbiz college. Took what they had on futures markets. Even took what the head prof•iterole had to say as inside. Is how I wound up in Chicago, for a time. Talk about inside. It ain’t cream-filled.
The simple hedging math, classroom math, was perfect. More, it was genius. I was impressed. As all are shanghaied, drafted, called up by this or that majesty’s press-gangs.
I took that rosy shite to chitown, took it to an interview – got the interview because they couldn’t believe the rosewater ink my letter of introduction was written in & just had to see for themselves – & was a moment’s comic relief thereby.
While I was there the feebs “infiltrated” (everybody said they were the worst traders ever seen) some of the ag pits. Soybeans. Maybe corn, some others. After the paragons did their work, some traders disappeared. A few of the frontrunners were pinched. The pricing mechanism market had been made honest American way again.
Everything you’ve heard about Chicago corruption is true, & the epitome couldn’t be better represented than by LaSalle St. But LaSalle St. is just one parasite in the suckhead remora weave attached to the big ag shark (among others).
Except these sharks are more like orcas – they hunt in packs.
The gang of 1776 was one of the shark packs, the “founding” shark pack – which is merely to say the supplanting shark pack.
Michael Crichton’s last novel. Enjoyable & worth the read. “Next”:
“The ultimate lesson is that science isn’t special – at least not anymore. Maybe back when Einstein talked to Niels Bohr, and there were only a few dozen important workers in every field. But there are now three million researchers in America. It’s no longer a calling, it’s a career. Science is as corruptible a human activity as any other. Its practitioners aren’t saints, they’re human beings, and they do what human beings do – lie, cheat, steal from one another, sue, hide data, fake data, overstate their own importance and denigrate opposing views unfairly. That’s human nature. It isn’t going to change”
“The gene,” Dr. Narcejac-Boileau said, “is associated with social dominance and strong control over other people. We have isolated it in sports leaders, CEOs, and heads of state. We believe the gene is found in all dictators throughout history.”
“Going back to the 1920s, when Stalin ordered the most famous animal breeder in Russia to do it, to make a new race of soldiers for him. His name was Ivanov.”
“Clearly, Valdez was an apologist for the industrialists and polluters, the big American companies that dominated Costa Rica and other Latin American countries. Not surprising to find such a person here, since the CIA had controlled Costa Rica for decades. This wasn’t a country; it was a subsidiary of American business interests. And American businesses did not give a damn for the environment.”
“However, since nearly everybody in the world carried the comfort gene, they believed that many people probably suffered from genetic anomalies involving the gene. For example: People who were overly desirous of joining the majority—that might prove to be a genetic disorder. And people who felt depressed when they were alone, by themselves—conceivably, another disorder. People who joined protest marches, went to sports games, who sought out situations where they would be surrounded by lots of like-minded people—a potential genetic disorder.”
“That is an outrage, but it is far from the most dangerous consequence of gene patents. In its heyday, research on SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) was inhibited because scientists were unsure who owned the genome—three simultaneous patent claims had been filed. As a result, research on SARS wasn’t as vigorous as it might have been. That should scare every sensible person. Here was a contagious disease with a 10 percent death rate that had spread to two dozen countries around the world. Yet scientific research to combat the disease was inhibited—because of patent fears.”
“The fiction! The fiction!” Can, often does, lead the way to Fantasy Island tattoos. Shelley centrifuged Frankenstein waaaay back when. That Ivanov tool, mentioned/used by Crichton, was known as “Red Frankenstein.”
These puerile puerperal fever-dreams begetting nightmares are perpetual. The good genes are not going to be selected for “gain of function.”
When the government wants something that is more propaganda than science, they stick it in the PNAS.
Maybe this will help:
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whitmer-canadian-shut-down-oil-pipeline
And then, as if on cue…
California, NASA Partner to Launch Methane-Tracking Satellite
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2021-04-15/california-nasa-partner-to-launch-methane-tracking-satellite?context=amp
You think they’re reading my posts on TBP?
Haha !
Yes.
From the article:
“ Using new air-quality tracking technology, a benchmark study has been able to link increased mortality with proximity to livestock farms.”
Maybe there is a vaccine for that!
completely off topic but the derek chauvin judge has found “aggravating factors” that persecution asked for–
one of you who has posting privileges might want to put this up as an article–
https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/12/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-minneapolis-sentence/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&tpcc%3D=newsletter&pnespid=1Olu_P9CBQuNrj3uUyWNTN11iUfH8g1VUBbFzOsU
Thanks Tampa.
Might actually be something to this Lipoh. As we drove through Tex-Ahoma a couple months back lots of tiny towns with thousands of cattle penned up like dissidents at a female camp. Even after losing most of my olfactory capabilities in the great bat flu plandemic the smell from these towns was overwhelmingly foul. Whats worse you have to slow down to 25 mph as you pass through miles of feed lots. Perhaps some of the people who live there commit suicide, or there migh be something very nasty in the water. Either way its not like the .Gov would tell the truth about the cause of death. They have pretty much proven incapable of that.
if the study is true,i’d bet that it has something to do w/the dust that is stirred up when you have massive #s of stock penned up–
smell?you ain’t smelled shi_ until you’ve driven thru an area w/a pulpmill,at least until they put scrubbers on them–
you guys from the south can probably remember driving thru a small southern town in the days b4 auto ac s were common & all of a sudden something smacked your nose–
what fun–
Tampa,
I have worked in the top 30 beef, chicken, and pork slaughter houses in the South and Midwest (Loss Prevention consultant for the cafeterias and vending) and the stink of death that permeates these giant cement castles, and the general area is indescribable.
I have seen many Nicky New Guys gag and vomit just walking up to one.
yep–my granddad owned a small slaughterhouse on the east side of okie city–the stench permeated the place years later after he had shut it down–
this was on mercola’s site today–
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/05/13/radioactive-waste.aspx?ui=9d2f70d8e4f122bd733367cadf9e6ec8c49c6075daa9fbea9a159e341e1c500a&sd=20111231&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2ReadMore&cid=20210513&mid=DM883550&rid=1156531937
Farmers brought in slaves to work for them. Farmers hire illegal immigrants, no questions asked. Farmers get paid by the government NOT to grow crops. Every farmer in my area is wealthy, and a complete arrogant asshole.
I guess we have a division in farming like the Urban vs Rural division; a lot of big government farm subsidy checks go to NYC, Chicago and LA etc, Zip Codes.