THERE ARE NO SOLUTIONS (PART TWO)

In Part One of this article I described the circumstances which make it impossible to change the system from within. The past year should put the final nail in that coffin. Now on to what is in our control.

“Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global—a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences.” – Center for Health Security – October 2019

Event 201, a pandemic exercise to illustrate preparedness efforts

The boldness and extremeness of their actions since the Fall of 2019 seem out of character with their usual shrouded machinations behind the scenes, where the public is ignorant of their actions. Something broke within the debt saturated financial system and Powell was ordered to restart QE and start reducing interest rates to fend off disaster. In a fascinating coincidence, Event 201, a pandemic simulation, was conducted on October 18 in New York City, jointly run by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The four-year coup attempt by the Deep State against Trump was floundering, with their pathetic last gasp impeachment farce in January 2020.

The weaponization of the Chinese bio-weapon lab virus into a global pandemic narrative accomplished numerous objectives for the Deep State. It provided cover for the Federal Reserve to funnel trillions into the pockets of the criminal Wall Street cabal and their billionaire clientele. It provided the means for Democrat governors and mayors to use it as an excuse to allow mass mail-in voting in order to fraudulently steal the election. Destroying the economy through unnecessary worthless lockdowns and blaming it on Trump gave the Democrats a further impetus to steal the election.

Convincing the entire nation masking and lockdowns stopped the spread (they did not) allowed the ruling class to exercise tyrannical authoritarian un-Constitutional mandates with little to no push back from the masses – giving them the confidence to push further. Cases and deaths were plummeting before vaccines were rolled out in any quantity, but the media mouthpieces and lying politicians will credit the jab for decline.

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Using propaganda fear, convincing the masses cowering in your basement was brave, using their captured media to lie about “being in this together” as our rulers flaunted their own lockdown dictates, creating social unrest based on the false narrative of systematic racism, forcing people to be scared and suspicious of each other, and pitting families and friends against each other based on falsehoods, has accomplished the mission of tearing the fabric of our society. And now for the coup de grace – forced vaccinations with an experimental untested DNA altering concoction for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate.

The immune systems of all but the sickliest are sufficient to fight off this virus and cheap, effective, and safe treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine have been scientifically proven to successfully defeat this virus. Watching scientists and doctors declare these treatments dangerous and ineffective, with Big Tech censoring anyone dissenting from this narrative, tells you how corrupted the medical and media industries have become. Science is never settled.

“No scientist ever believes that he has the final answer or the ultimate truth on anything.” – Carroll Quigley

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Again, following the money leads to the most likely reason for this totalitarian insistence on everyone on earth be inoculated with a substance that has not been thoroughly tested or vetted over the long term. Demanding mass vaccination as the only way life can return to normal has generated tens of billions in profits for Big Pharma and the medical industrial complex administering the jabs. Scientists and medical professionals have been bought off to sway their research and opinions.

Do No Harm has been replaced by How Much Will You Pay Me to endorse your unproven drug. They tell you the jab is free, but the government is funding this disgraceful exercise with your tax dollars. Actually, the tax dollars of unborn generations (if they can be born after the sterility impact of the jabs surfaces in the future) are being used since we now borrow $4 trillion per year from them. Bribing the ignorant masses with donuts, fast food, million-dollar lotteries, and vaccine passports guaranteeing access to the jabbed, certainly seems excessive for a relatively non-lethal illness.

Vax-A-Million sweepstakes increased vaccination rates by 28%, state health officials say

They have accomplished convincing and coercing over 50% of adults into getting fully vaccinated, pushing hard for 70%. Now they have turned their attention to children, who have a .003% chance of dying from Covid. Is this asinine idea only to generate profits for the ruling class or is there a darker motive for injecting a substance that has already killed thousands, creates blood clots, and is now causing heart problems in teenagers.

When you step back and try to comprehend the motives of Gates, Schwab, Fauci, and the criminal cabal running the show, with their “new normal”, “build back better”, and “you will own nothing and be happy” slogans, you get the feeling this is all part of a much bigger agenda of control over the masses by an elite few, who believe they know what is best for the planet regarding population size, resource usage, climate, and what they allow you to do and not do.

This is essentially a globalist attempt by the Davos crowd to create a new world, run by them, with you as a debt enslaved peasant, asking their permission to leave your house. Enrichment and control for them, meager existence, and enslavement for you.

The majority of Americans have been conditioned to believe their government and their leaders. The oligarchs have nearly perfected the art of manipulation. They have utilized propaganda, public school indoctrination, and pharmacological methods to create a dictatorship without tears, just as Aldous Huxley predicted many decades ago.

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I do not think Huxley realized how much easier it would be for the masses to be subjugated and made to love their servitude with the advent of advanced technology, controlled by the powers that be. Propaganda has been so much more effective in the manipulative hands of Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Bezos, Cook and Schmidt, with their stranglehold on social media, search engines, apps, and ability to censor what they do not want heard. They have convinced the masses consumerism, materialism, personal satisfaction, wokeism, and various other “ism” tripe is what is important in this world.

The past year has borne out Huxley’s painless concentration camp analogy, as we allowed ourselves to be locked down in our homes, while enjoying the fact our liberties and freedoms were taken away by government tyrants at the behest of billionaires pretending to be medical authorities and bought off medical “experts”. Any thoughts of rebelling against this tyranny had been conditioned out of the masses over the course of decades. This is why there are no macro-solutions to extract us from this concentration camp.

When I write articles detailing the subversion of our country by the Deep State/criminal cabal/ruling elite/oligarchy, a frequent comment has been – “He is great at detailing the problems, how come he never offers any solutions?” That comment always irritates me, because I have proposed solutions for over a decade, which never had a chance of being implemented or even considered. I wrote an article one week after the election of Barack Obama in November 2008 –  U.S. Economy: There Are No Problems, Only Solutions – which laid out dozens of solutions to what I considered the major problems facing our nation.

How naïve, uninformed, and foolish I was back then to think any of my proposals had a realistic chance of being adopted, when the ruling class had created the system and reaped the benefits from maintaining it just as it is. Working to get Ron Paul elected in 2008 and 2012 was a futile effort. Our political leaders are selected, not elected, as we have seen with Dementia Joe and his cackling vacuous VP. Hoping for the next election to go your way and your favorite candidate to win is nothing but false hope. The system is rigged, and they do not care what you think. We need to cast aside childish thoughts and deal with the harsh reality of being pawns in a game we do not control. Quigley described the two-party farce five decades ago, and it has only gotten worse since.

If voting really changed anything, governments would make it illegal | by Markus Maiwald | Decentralized Society

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years, if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.” – Carroll Quigley

The only solution is to not play in their game. We only have micro-solutions which can be implemented on an individual level to reduce our risk and exposure to the criminal enterprise known as our government. Depending on our financial resources, location, occupation, and personalities, we can all take actions which provide more freedom and distance from the corrupt system. Some actions are easier than others, but every step in the right direction pushes us closer to a tipping point where good outweighs evil. Make no mistake, we are at war with evil men with evil intentions, and they have no qualms about killing you or your family. Individual actions will matter.

Reducing your debt increases your freedom. Disconnecting from technological imprisonment keeps them from tracking you. Reducing your taxable footprint, if possible, helps starve the beast. Associating with like-minded people and dis-associating from untrustworthy establishment supporting stooges will clarify your life. Raising your own food, and/or forming an alliance/friendship with local farmers will reduce your dependence on the toxic manufactured food industry.

Get healthy through exercise to limit your exposure to the medical industrial complex. Move out of cities and stay away from crowds. Own guns and be prepared to use them. Become part of a community (online or in-person) where ideas are shared, and different viewpoints are heard. Prepare for energy and food shortages. Currency debasement has entered a hyperbolic phase, so own some alternatives (gold, silver, land, crypto). Get right with your family and decide who you can trust and depend upon.

Do not consume – save.
Do not obey – resist.
Do not believe – think.
Do not trust – investigate.
Do not conform – rebel.
Do not submit – withdraw your consent.

Based on the global experiment conducted by the oligarchs over the last year, it appears only a small fraction of the population seem capable of independent thought and a willingness to resist entering the technological gulag orchestrated by our gatekeepers. There may be no implementable solutions on a grand scale, but there is a semblance of hope once their master plans self-destruct and crumble under the weight of hubris and ego driven ambition. Cracks in the façade are already forming as they have turned on Gates, Fauci and Cuomo for glorifying themselves ahead of the agenda.

Quigley held out hope based upon human virtues which have fallen out of favor, but still exist among a portion of the population. I know they exist because the on-line community I call home has people with these qualities in abundance. And a number of these friends will be getting together at a farm in New Hampshire on July 4 to celebrate our quaint belief we can help once again set brushfires of freedom in the minds of men and seize the moral high ground from the criminal cabal who occupy it now. Our choices are few and road ahead difficult, but what choice do we have?

Tragedy and Hope Project by Isaac Blencowe — Kickstarter

“The hope for the twentieth century rests on recognition that war and depression are man-made, and needless. They can be avoided in the future by turning from the nineteenth-century characteristics just mentioned (materialism, selfishness, false values, hypocrisy, and secret vices) and going back to other characteristics that our Western Society has always regarded as virtues: generosity, compassion, cooperation, rationality, and foresight, and finding an increased role in human life for love, spirituality, charity, and self-discipline.” – Carroll Quigley

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TS

Ist.
Just so everybody can flip me the finger on the way by.

edit:
“How naïve, uninformed, and foolish I was back then to think any of my proposals had a realistic chance of being adopted…”
I had a summary written, and shared with a select few friends and family, about a book I was going to write, ‘Politics from Ground Zero’. The ground zero was a refernece of how it impacts the everyday citizen.That was a couple years before 9/11, and before I truly understood just how global the sitiuation was. I explained and laid out the necessary steps, including possible (and necessary) constitutional amendments. Everyone I showed it to urged me to write it.
While researching that book, it became strikingly clear that it was years too late to effect much, if any, change. I was convinced that the train had left the station. Nothing has caused me to re-consider that observation, only increasingly confirmed it.
All of your solutions are, of course, pretty much the only game left in town.

TS

This is the rough draft from Dec. 1999, so please overlook any tech/grammatical errors.

L. E. THISSELL
Politics From Ground Zero – True political reform for the new millennium

Preface
The name for this book comes from the concept that ground-zero in a nuclear exchange is seldom where the inventors, manufacturers nor the users of nuclear weapons are sequestered. The majority of targets are the cities, the everyday blue- and white-collar workers and lower-rank military members, not the elite policy makers and executors. Hence, politics from ground-zero. This is a look at the lay person’s view of politics from directly where its effects are most immediately and strongly felt–on the street and under the hammer head.
The idea that laws are forged between the anvil of perceived necessity and the hammer of compromise is not a faulty analogy, but of limited scope. A broader view would be that the people, as a cultural whole, are the materials being shaped between the anvil of vision and the hammer of legislation.
The majority of Americans believe, whether self-articulated or not, that the wielders of that hammer are now mass-producing legislation instead of creating a product of fine craftsmanship. Considering the global society and it’s direction of advancement, that is not a surprising trend, but one that is detrimental to positive growth, culturally speaking.
The proposals advanced within will have only a small impact on political parties and how they conduct their business, and none on existing constitutional checks and balances, the basis of the strength of our government. What they do address are the issues of money influence on elections, outmoded electoral processes, and the election-time mind-set of politicians.
When I first began fleshing out the vague concepts that have eventually been modified into this book, I envisioned a series of proposals that could be put into effect without constitutional amendments. Sadly, that would be at best useless and possibly even of negative value, a mere shadow-play with no substance and only serve to exasperate an already worsening situation.
As with anything even remotely involving the sphere of politics, compromise is a must if any semblance of consensus is to be achieved. Hopefully, I have addressed the concerns and remedies in such a manner that all concerned can see a way to finally drain at least a small portion of muck from the increasing morass of divergent views, perceptions and beliefs spreading between the electorate and those who are ostensibly elected to govern them.
I have chosen to restrict my proposals to the Federal arena, even though they could easily be modified and adopted by any state so willing.
This country is at a crisis point. Two-thirds, give or take, of the voting populace have become so alienated and distrustful of their own government that they not only refuse to vote, but are becoming increasingly anti-government. This is a socio-political conflagration waiting to burst into flames. The results of such an outburst can be supposed, by educated guess, but history is replete with unforeseen twists and violent complications arising from similar situations.

Section One
Monetary Influence

Perceptions and Reality ———————————– Page 1

Proposal and Commentary ———————————– Page _

Section Two
Electoral Processes

Background ———————————————— Page _

Reality ————————————————— Page _

Proposal ————————————————– Page _

Section Three
Politicians and the Inevitablity of Human Behavior

Reality ————————————————— Page _

Proposal ————————————————– Page _

Conclusion
Page _

Perceptions and Reality

Politicians buy their offices.
Whether this is a correct statement or not, that is the prevalent view among the majority of Americans. And since a person seeking an elected office is willing to spend all that time, exertion, emotion and money, there must be some tangible payoff for the effort and expense.
Greed, corruption and power; control, egoism and selfishness–these are the usual traits commonly attributed to the majority of politicians, accompanied by open ridicule and disdain.
And those few that actually have a decent reputation are inundated by the flood of compromise and deceit necessary to actually gain any appreciable positive achievement.
Every promise or innuendo, every statement, every action, is viewed with suspicion and with the underlying thought that you wish you knew what the true motivation was. What the truth is.
Not a very pretty thought; we are electing and being controlled by the very persons for whom we have nearly the least respect and admiration. That does not produce a very rosy depiction of our self-esteem as a sovereign nation, let alone the brightest, strongest, most benevolent state, for all its ills, ever produced in the history of mankind.
Oh, for the statesmen of the past; Daniel Webster, Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln. Nearly everyone has a cherished nostalgia for one or more of the more eminent political figures of the last two centuries. If only we had someone of their stature and iron convictions, we would be able to trust and respect the politicians, be able to see a clear vision of where we are heading.
The reality of that wishful thinking is that they all had their own weaknesses to accompany their strengths. Many would most likely not have had any chance of being elected in this day of microscopic scrutiny, an ironic state of affairs considering the present political environment. And among their contemporaries, most were not as highly esteemed as they are now, with our benefit of distance and hindsight.
Special interest groups, corporations, wealthy private citizens; all fund the coffers and pull the strings on puppet-like figureheads that mouth party platforms and moral convictions while their actions give lie to their words. Cabals and conspiracies abound within the Beltway, all predicated to keeping those with power in power.
These perceptions have a strong basis in fact, but as so often is the case, they are actually the exceptions that overshadow reality.
The majority of politicians, at least when first elected, are actually strong-willed, positive individuals. Their predominate motivation is to gather the necessary influence to right what they see as wrongs, guide where they see lack of vision, and protect their constituents from whatever threat, whether sharply-defined or vague, seems to be paramount at the time.
Having said that, many elected officials are not stellar citizens by any stretch of imagination. This very same group of people elected to enact laws and safe-guard our country has a dismal record of criminal behavior, a fact known all too well by their constituencies. This has created a vicious circle; more and more voters see the end-product of electing sub-standard officials, which leads to fewer registered voters actually voting, which leads to even more sub-standard officials. An endless downward spiral unless it is stopped.
On a slight departure, one argument in the low turn-out discussion is that the prevailing automatic registration, such as whenever being issued or re-issued a driver’s license, leads to registered voters whom never intended to vote in the first place. The very reason this ease of registration was promulgated in the first place was because of declining voter turn-out. So that line of debate is based on a faulty premise and can only become more flawed the further it is followed.
The sad truth is that the only way even the best and brightest can get their message out, to have even a slight chance to make a difference, is through the availability of money. Practically all considerations are tinged with the gathering of funds. That is the bottom line; of what good is the best message of competency, hope, vision and positive values if no-one hears it. Thus begins the first negative compromise.
Compromise is an important tool, as necessary to a healthy government as oxygen is to life. But it must be accompanied by an equally important set of core beliefs that cannot be compromised. Otherwise, it can only lead the user further and further astray until all sight of the original goal and the original user are lost. What is left is all too often seen; a self-serving puppet to monetary influence.
Greed is seldom a factor at first. It doesn’t seem like an undesirable action to receive money simply to listen to someone’s agenda, with no action promised. Not even a small step, just a slight turn. And think of all the people that can be reached with the important message.
As funds gather and more are needed, there comes an accelerated demand for more attention to that part of the election process. This happens at the expense of turning the candidate’s mind away from why he or she should be elected, to how to be elected. It is a small detail, but with serious ramifications.
Take an example from any type of profession that builds on one small detail at a time. One small error, whether in a formula or a measurement, leads to another small error. That, as the process continues, eventually leads to larger and larger errors. Finally, as the faulted process continues, it becomes practically impossible to salvage the piece of work and difficult to even retrace to the original error. At that point any worthy professional researches why and where the error occurred, scraps the flawed work, and begins anew.
Unfortunately, few recognize that small turning of attention as an error. The results of that error are blatantly in front of us every day.
The solution is to remove, or at least reduce as much as possible, the error-producing potential from the project, which in this case is the elective process.
What that means is to remove from the process the necessity of seeking financial support. The ideal situation would be to totally remove any necessity for funding from the entire elective process. That is not going to happen. The compromise solution is to remove it as much as is practicable.

Proposal

What I suggest is to remove the funding crunch in the final stages. This will have the benefit of a more diverse selection of candidates while not stepping on the large, established political parties’ toes.
Major parties will all still do their thing, buying ads and promoting their candidates. Independent private citizens will still buy their way to being heard. That is a reality that, at our present stage of cultural development, must be accepted. That means that there will always be the voice of some worthy candidate going unheard, simply for lack of funds. This proposal is a step ahead, not a complete cure.
Following are the points of this proposal.

1)As each candidate reaches the necessary level to be placed upon the ballot for office of president, he or she must cease all ads and fund-gathering. The agencies necessary to ensure compliance exist and would have little trouble assuming this responsibility. This does not mean that political parties could not promulgate their platforms, only that they could not specifically promote an individual, from this point forward.
Commentary
Admittedly, this first point will have many critics and be a very hard sell, maybe the hardest of all. It seemingly bites into the very life-blood of political parties and, at first glance, seems to stifle freedom of speech. What it does is level the playing field without removing the ability of political parties from promulgating their platforms.

2)When all candidates have, by a deadline of one hundred twenty (120) days before the election, become official candidates for the presidency, a media-observed/reported debate series will be scheduled. All candidates, in order to continue to be on the ballot, must attend, verified emergencies excepting. The federal government must offer to cover all reasonable expenses, for the candidate, for travel and housing arrangements for the duration of these debates.
Commentary
Once again, a very hard sell. Plus, there will be the necessity for strict over-sight by a reputable agency with full authority in this area. The issue of incumbents and their attendance will be addressed later.

3)The debate series will consist of several debates, of equal time, until all candidates have debated with all other candidates, in whatever format is decided upon and agreed to by the majority of candidates.
Commentary
I have no doubt there will be opposition to this point, but I cannot see how anyone could publicly justify a position against fairness, equal time and open debate. The repercussions could be extremely negative for anyone who was to argue too strenuously against the basic concept of this point.
4)Any media member giving coverage to these debates will, by law, be required to present each debate covered, in its entirety. The penalty should be severe enough to ensure compliance.
Commentary

TS

What’s with the downvotes? This was written in 1999, and simply filling out my original comment. Too much for you idiots to comprehend?
Of course it’s outdated and no longer relevant as a course of action, even at its rudimentary conceptual stage.
So let me ask; what were you spaz bastards doing in 1999?
Oh, that’s right. You’re too scared someone might know who you are. Fuckwads.

Ghost

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This one’s for the phantom downshitter and his accomplice. I thought it was good advice if someone had taken any interest in fixing the problem then. They didn’t.

We elected another bush.

RAFO
RAFO

The fact that you have gone into a tizzy over some people voting you down proves you’re not ready for prime time and shows palatable immaturity. Did it ever occur to you people MAY have voted you down to test you and your resolve?? You failed my friend. Miserably. Go back… grow up… and realize not everyone is going to agree with everything that comes out of your word processing program. You’re not supposed to be writing to win popularity contests… just say what’s on your mind and move on. Insulting your audience will never bring them over to your side. Have a nice day.

TS

Fuck off.
Where’ve you been for the last several years?
I’ve made it quite plain I like fucking with downvotesters.
What a maroon. I downvoted you for being a presumptious idiot.

lenny
lenny

You tell him.

TS

Thanks for the downvote, Buddy!
Maybe I can match Stuckmeister someday.
Keep ’em comin’.

Ghost

And, by the way, that bird was specially hunted down for you, Mr. Thistle. And presented with the utmost respect.

Ppphhhhllllltttt…. (is that how you spell it?)

TS

LOL! Thanks. I’m not sure there is any proper way to spell that. Pffffffffttttt maybe? Whatever gets the point across.

Yeah, if RAFO isn’t a newbie, he (she/xi?) sure gives a good impersonation of one.
Lot’s of ’em around here lately. Which is a good thing for Admin, I suppose.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot

TS – Nice ideas, but like you say, we are probably long past the point of no return, even in ’99. The bottom line is the federal government spends too much money. As long as they are willing to spend $3+ Trillion every year, they will draw a long line of special interests who will make a “contribution” to insure they get their fair share of the $ being spent. Getting back to enumerated powers would help solve a whole lot of problems.

DS
DS

They have to spend more and more to keep the Fed ponzi afloat — that is why there is never any “budget reform” despite all the empty talk, and that is why they manufacture events and programs (war on terror, covid relief) to justify the big spending. Since they are now injecting trillions at a time, it must mean that the monetary house of cards is pretty unstable. So nothing will be done about federal spending until it all blows up and they no longer have anything of value to spend.

C.a.l.
C.a.l.

Who the fuck cares about your 20 year old effort that you couldn’t get published?
The downvotes are for clogging up the comments. Don’t ask me to edit your shit. Use a link for anyone who wants to wade through it. Oh yeah and fuck off while you’re at it

TS

How many books do YOU have published, prick? If you look to the right you’ll see 5 of my 7 advertised right here on this site. It didn’t get published because I didn’t write it. ROUGH DRAFT, asshole. There is no link, it was copied out of my archives. I thought the people I actually have any use for here might be interested. It sure as fuck wasn’t meant for space-wasters such as yourself.

C.A.L.
C.A.L.

Oooooo, I tremble before your staggering colossus of intellect. I am soooo humbled by your literary genius and mastery of CAPS.
Thanks for letting us know how fucking brilliant you were, douchebag. WOW. Tell us again how right you were 20 years ago. Big fucking deal. By your own admission, you realized 20 years ago it wasn’t worth publishing. Why the fuck do you think it has any merit now? It was useless then. It is useless now. All you did was take up space.
Who cares about your little ‘I Told you So’ blather? Nobody but you and your pathetic ego. Now go call your Mom so she can tell you how special you are.

TS

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pM6Y8HkJzU&w=994&h=559%5D

You’ve published how many?

C.A.L.
C.A.L.

Only a great writer, a true man of literary genius would need to use a video clip to make his point. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jerk off somewhere else.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

The back of God’s book is never wrong it’s just figuring out the time table that’s the tricky part.

Nobody
Nobody

It’s been figured out. Judgement day is in mid October 2046 – cyclical solar micronova – last one was Noah’s flood.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

Too far out

Nobody
Nobody

Many bumps in the road before the final judgement day for sure. Judgement day, the thousand years of peace and everlasting life is not what most people think it is.

Judgement day is about those who have the eyes to see and ears to hear the signs of the scheduled cataclysm and prepare properly to enable survival of their lineage. While you guys bitch others are embezzling trillions and buying up materials to prepare. While you guys are just now hearing of this others have known this for 60 years and have been navigating to position for survival. Ultimately divine law will decide who survives and whose lineage will live forever but if you aren’t already aware of what is happening then you are are definitely not within the protections of divine law.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

Think of how wonderful it is to have a sizable community of people who share your culture if not your dates. And you are both efing insane or congenitally deficient in the brain.

You are not special. God the Father is not going to intervene because it’s you. You are arguing whether God is coming tomorrow or next week. The people of corrupt empires have been slaughtered before and it’s our turn. Sorry if that bothers you. Maybe you could spend some time developing a warrior’s mindset, greater physical capacity, or better material capacity. What a sick joke you people are for me.

Stucky

+ 1 bazillion.

Just popping in (and popping right out) to say you are doing a Yeoman’s Job of battling these God-will-save-my-ass folks.

Tens if not hundreds of millions have died at the hands of evil leaders/government in the past 5,000 years … but, fer sure, THEY are special and God will intervene. Whatever.

I’ve grown weary of trying to talk sense to them so, for the most part, I don’t. What difference has it made? None. If anything, we have more Jesus-Will-Intervene types here than ever before.

Just wanted to let you know, you have at least one fan here. Actually, I think you have a lot more fans than you think. Keep up the good fight.

Anonymousl
Anonymousl

You think its bad here you ought to see some of the other pro conservatives\ patriot sites. Some cross post here.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

That is good to know, anon. Obviously, as Stucky sayeth, it is a loosing cause. I wish I did not need white male Christians to become righteously angry, but need is not virtue, and I should ration my time left on this earth accordingly.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

You going to the shin dig, Stucky? I don’t know if it’s worth me venturing out of my safe cage or not.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

Lack of wisdom, understanding and I disbelief about sums it all up.
Because it hasn’t already happened on your timetable you are all tired of hearing about it.
Whaaaaaaaaa!

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

It never goes well when you tell people that think they’re intelligent they lack wisdom and understanding

Austrian Peter

What year was that then, Nobody – Noah’s Flood?

I have been studying this event from several angles (a hobby of mine). JW say the exact date of Noah’s Flood is clearly identified in the Bible: 2370BCE

I can find no evidence of a mass extinction event having occurred at any time around this date, for it is within recorded history. I can find plenty of evidence that it did not occur. Can you help me with your astronomical date please?

anon I
anon I

You’re correct Peter. Noahs flood was regional. The most recent extinction event occurred prior to Adam when Lucifer was cast down Even though many civilizations have a flood story it is not proof of an extinction type event. Peruvian, Chinese, Egyptian, and Indian civilizations did not get flooded and continued uninterrupted. Faulty and willful mistranslation of scripture and revisionist history deserve a large part of the blame for that fable.

Austrian Peter

Thanks anon I, I feel suitably reassured.

I note that the Bible OT is of course a fairly accurate history of the Asiatic Habiru (Hebrews) and checks very well with the Egyptian chronology. I am just finishing “A Test of Time” by David M. Rohl which describes a new, adjusted chronology that allows the Bible history as parallel in time and events. I will précis his conclusions as an essay and maybe publish it here.

anon I
anon I

I’ll look for it. I believe the Bible proves history and science and history and science prove the Bible and like you say, is an account of the Hebrew/Israelite people and Christ. It was not intended as science and history as it’s primary purpose. I also believe there are agendas afoot that have altered all three.
Regarding the chronology. There is a serious time difference between the very questionable Masoretic text and the Septuagint and Dead Sea scrolls. Using the Masoretic permits a longer stay in Egypt and allows the imposters Mark M. talks about to insinuate themselves into the Hebrew lineage.

Austrian Peter

Yes, you will find that David Rohl corrects all this very well and convincingly.

anon I
anon I

Thanks for the reference. I just bought A test of Time. I may end up getting all of his books. It would be a bummer to get Raptured before I can finish them. Said with a heavy dose of sarc.
I was reluctantly convinced that Noah’s regional flood happened in the Tarim Basin. The Chinese Emperor of the time, recorded the river flowing from the basin overflowed it’s banks for quite a long time. Maybe something similar to the Three Gorges Dam breaking.

Austrian Peter

I favour Noah’s flood to be due to the melting of the ice during the gradual collapse of lakes having formed within the ice sheets. But it is all speculation – little firm evidence.

anon I
anon I

Right about firm evidence being scarce but it sure is a fun topic to research. I’m always willing to change or modify but it has to be reasonable and practical. Mainstream religious dogma on the subject is lacking both. Christ said to test everything. A Berean always be.

Austrian Peter

Yes I agree anon I; the Bereans were most enthusiastic Bible researchers and I guess I fit into this category.

My quest is to satisfy myself that the Bible is the ‘received word of God’. I have not yet reached a conclusion but I am enjoying the journey. I do however have a sneaking suspicion that there has to be a ‘creator’ and favour Intelligent Design (ID). The book that finally convinced me of this concept was written by a mathematician:

One sticking point for me has always been Noah’s flood and my conclusion thus far is that it was a local affair and when the Bible says ‘world’ – it was the world they knew at the time – ‘their world’; which rather works against God’s record as He would have known if it were a global event.

For me it is important to recognise that these are ancient writings record local events based on their limited knowledge at the time. I suspect that the super volcano at Santorini. (Google): “The Minoan eruption was a major catastrophic volcanic eruption that devastated the Aegean island of Thera (now called Santorini) between 1642 and 1540 BCE .”

The dates check with David Rohl’s new chronology and also account for the plagues of Egypt at the time. More accurate dating and research is required here for me. But it could well account for the Atlantis event recorded by Plato: (Google): “He may like it, or he may not.” The Greek statesman Solon first mentioned Atlantis in the 3rd Century BC, saying that he learned of it from Egyptian priests. Plato later embellished the story”

As you say, great fun, and on and on it goes!

Guest
Guest

Try to find Arthur c. Constance books/papers on the flood. I just revisited the site and it’s basically gone, after many years.

Home

Find papers on almost all cultures of the world having a flood ‘myth’ and check out the dating.
Also delve into alt geology.

Austrian Peter

Many thanks for the heads up Guest – I will take your advice and follow up – if successful I will post again. 🙂

anon I
anon I

Thanks for the link Guest, I’ll look it over.
Most cultures I’ve had time to look at briefly have a flood account but the question is which flood and are they repeating a flood account that happened in another land. Much like we repeat accounts of Atlantis or Ancient China and India, just to name a few. Also there have been a minimum of one total extinction events on earth before Adam arrived 7,000+ years ago. Humans in Genesis 1 were told to replenish the earth, not plenish or fill it the first time.
Layers of fossils of ocean creatures found at 20,000+ feet did not get there in a 6 month flood. The bible attests to pre-Adamic creatures of all kinds as well as at least one cataclysmic earth shaking event prior to Adam. Our insistence on being ultra rigid in all the wrong places is amazing. Imagine if we were this rigid morally since Adam. We’d still be in Eden.

Stucky

“One sticking point for me has always been Noah’s flood and my conclusion thus far is that it was a local affair and when the Bible says ‘world’ – it was the world they knew at the time – ‘their world’;”

You are 100% correct. As another example, let’s look at Luke 2:1 (KJV)

“And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.”

If the people who take The Flood literally, and apply the same interpretive rules to Luke …. then people living in India, China, South and North America and “ALL THE WORLD” were taxed. But, that clearly didn’t happen.

There are very many instances throughout the Bible where “all” doesn’t really mean all or, where “every” doesn’t mean every, and so forth.

But, Literalists will stick to their guns, some will scream and shout “HERETIC!”, and then are forced into coming up with all kinds of mental gymnastics to “prove” their literal interpretations. It’s almost as if they have no idea there are other valid ways and styles in which God communicate His message to mankind.

Austrian Peter

Thank you Stucky for reinforcing my belief here and I heartily agree about the use of words and interpretations for those like JW who take it totally literally . Like you, I apply a range of options and alternatives. Good fun though! 🙂

brian
brian

lol… So God warned Noah of a coming judgement by water. Had Noah and his sons spend the next hundred and fifty years building the Ark according to the dimensions and instructions given to Noah, by God.

Noah then builds this rather large boat to house the necessary kinds to replenish the Earth and God then brings the animals TO Noah. Noah and family enter the big boat, God closes the door and it starts an English 49 day rain than generates a flood. Noah then bob’n about in the nasty flooding Gange river basin stays on this boat for a year.

Once he bumps into shore he releases a crow that comes back, well trained I suppose. Noah stays on the boat for a couple more months to just make sure and then leaves when a dove brings back an olive branchlet.

Now God is surely a funny trickster here. Tells Noah to build a boat because he’s gonna destroy all life on the Earth, but apparently lied by implying to Noah that ALL didn’t mean everything. God further duped Noah into building a massive boat called the Ark. Hundred fifty years in the building, and to code no less. I guess further proof serving God is silly and one should never do that.

Of course the rain being quite heavy was the cause of the flood that there is evidence worldwide but its easier to maintain your own version of the flood event because its likely more comfortable. Weird how the Earth is nearly 80% water surface but a global flood just isn’t in the works.

So it begs the questions then. If God pulled a hoax on Noah, then it makes God out to be a liar and untrustworthy in anything. God also facilitated the lie by bringing the animals needed to replenish the Earth after the judgement. Again complicate in perpetuating a lie.

If this was a ‘regional’ flood then why would not Noah, in the 150 years, simply move to another region not affected by the coming flood??? In that time he could easily walked anywhere on the planet accessible to foot.

Please explain coal seams hundreds of feet thick. Please explain the carbon14 saturation of coal. The pre-adamic myth is based on uniformatarian evolution, the slow rise and fall of land masses over eons. C14 has a half life of just over 5700 years, after a million years there should be no detectable traces. Please explain C14 in dinosaur fossils along with soft tissues that cannot survive even a couple million years under ideal conditions. Please explain C14 in diamonds which are supposed to be billions of years old. Living fossils, unchanged, huge planation surfaces where entire mountain ranges have been stripped and leveled off at a certain elevation. In short there is no long ages and pre-adamic man, but like flat Earthers you will cling to that notion because, in this case, Gods word just can’t be trusted.

Stucky

” …. you will cling to that notion because, in this case, Gods word just can’t be trusted.”

Nope. It is YOUR INTERPRETATION of God’s word that I don’t trust. At all.

I very quick scanned your comments. But, I refuse to get into a pissing match with you. I am 100% familiar with your proofs. I used to be a staunch follower of ICR (Institute for Creation Research) and read most of Ken Ham’s books, as well as those by Duane Gish and Henry Morris. You pretty much parrot everything they say.

brian
brian

Sorry, I don’t follow Ken Ham or read his books, and research has moved far beyond Henry Morris and Gish. And I’m calling BS because neither of these guys knew about C14 in coal, diamond or dinosaur samples, or any of the things I mentioned.

And as always the fall back position is ‘Thats what you say’. Its a two way street and I trust none of your interpretations. So now what?? You say I’m fulla shit, I say you are fulla shit. Great arguments proving what I posted as being false.

As usual you hate having to answer when someone challenges your pet doctrines. Next will come the insults and maybe if I’m lucky get threatened to tell admin on me. Avoidance plan #5

Anonymous
Anonymous

I went over everything they said and neither said a thing about C-14 or dinosaur terds for or against. I’m going to assume they thought you too dumb to even bother with anymore.
Please be Stephanie again. At least your picture from the Jr. High Yearbook was cute.

Stucky

You say you have NOT read any Ken Ham books ….. and then definitely say he doesn’t mention C14, dinosaurs, etc.??? BWAHAHAHA! Hmmm, you don’t read his books, yet you know what’s in them …. and you don’t think that’s moronic, eh?

Nowhere did I say you’re full of shit. You are a Liar … perhaps even the Father of Lies.

Why would I want to argue with your “facts”? Your arguments are a bottomless pit with no escape. This is your style. Throw one thing after another after another at a person … trying to force them to acknowledge whatever shit you pull out of your ass … and when that person doesn’t want to play, you cry out “See! I’m right!!” As “C.a.l.” stated attempting meaningful dialogue with you is a Fools Errand. So, I try mighty hard to avoid it.

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You think The Flood is MY “pet doctrine”???? BWAHAHAHAHA

It is you … YOU!!! …. who completely hijacked this thread, shit-bombing a great article with YOUR deep wisdom about the Flood … something 95% of readers here don’t give a flying fuck about. I didn’t even know The Flood was a doctrine! What is clear for anyone reading this thread is that it is you … YOU!!! … who are heavily invested in the topic. It is YOUR pet project. It is you who gets bent out of shape when anyone disagrees with you even on minor points. It is you who lashes out at people, accusing them of calling God a liar, merely because they interpret things in a different light.

But, you for some really weird unknown reason want to project your psychosis onto me? Haha. To be clear, at the end of the day, I don’t give a Rat’s Ass what people think about the Flood story. Unlike you, I won’t lose any sleep over it.

I think I have 2 comments about this Flood stuff … both today … and neither was addressed to you. So, why in the hell are you stalking me?? Why can’t you just leave me alone? Can’t you see I don’t want to talk to you about anything to do with religion? So, in the future, for the love of God, just kindly fuck off.

brian
brian

You inserted yourself into the argument so any comment is open to questioning, but I did forget you just hate people questioning the great Stucky. Seems the discussions are only valid if the great one agrees and then all the accolades oohh and awe…

Silly me too as I wasn’t aware that Ken Ham was the only guy writing on any of the subjects I posted. What was I thinking.

whatever shit you pull out of your ass

the Flood … something 95% of readers here don’t give a flying fuck about

LOL… I’m the one pulling shit outa my ass and a liar… well 95% of the people here would disagree with you and I got that percentage straight from the source you got yours from.

Why can’t you just leave me alone?

Solution is simple and you are in control. Just don’t weigh in on things you know nothing of, otherwise be prepared to be challenged. But we all know you love to throw shade on anything gospel because you are ‘controversial’ and merely trying to get people to think. Its your style.

Added: My comment about C14 and those guys was in regard to Morris and Gish, not ken Ham. So to accuse me of parroting Morris and Gish on C14 make you the liar, not I.

Stucky

What part of “FUCK OFF” don’t you understand, you stalker.

Stop wasting your time. I did not read a single word of whatever New Shit you’re flinging. I only know you addressed my by seeing my name in the Dashboard screen.

You’re infatuation with me is disturbing. So, go ahead, respond with moar bullshit I won’t read.lol

C.a.l.
C.a.l.

It seems that when some people run short on facts they start spewing bible prophesy. How can you have any kind of meaningful dialogue with these people? It is like getting stuck with ‘flat earthers’ or ‘The Endtimers’. Ffs
What a waste of time.
Follow what Christ taught and you’ll be fine. Full stop.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Your parents should have saved up to pay for your full lobotomy instead of the partial. I liked you better when you were Stephanie.

Steve L.
Steve L.

Brian: — Noah took 120 years to build the ark, NOT 150 years. ***I just wanted to point that out to you.***

anon I
anon I

Peter I found something you might like while googling David Rohl. You may already have it but if not it’s a very easy to listen to 40 minute interview with Rohl on his book about the Exodus. I’m going to save it to pass on to people just beginning to question conventional wisdom on all things biblical. A real eye opener but many may stumble on the statue of a redheaded Joseph.
https://newbooksnetwork.com/david-rohl-exodus-myth-or-history-thinking-man-media-2015

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo

Oh Jesus,…or Ramses or whoever.
Guys, Peter and Anon,.. it is the Aliens,.. they were the Gods of the Egyptians and they are still fucking with us okay?
Just wait until that invisible planet comes back in 2046,.. then we will see the reptile aliens once and for all.
And get better internet service hopefully.

Anonymous
Anonymous

This isn’t about demonic entities posing as aliens. It’s about biblical floods and dubious history.

C.a.l.
C.a.l.

Amen

Austrian Peter

Brilliant Anon, thank you very much. I didn’t know that he had written another book about the Exodus – just the job – I will order it. I will listen to the interview too – he is quite a guy.

This quest is indeed great fun – I have been at it for 30 years and read many books. Not so much on the internet though as it is full of BS on scriptures – lots of mad stuff like aliens and non-existent planets!

brian
brian

Wrong…. For many reasons. One, if the flood was regional there would have been zero need for an ark. Making God a lair and nullifying the scriptures as truthful and reliable. Something ‘liberal’ christians and atheists’ seek to accomplish, turning truth into lies.

Two, the ancient chineese writings, pictographical characters, contain not only the flood story but creation, adam and eve, etc etc… for example the word garden was made up of a box with a man and a woman characters, Flood was a boat with eight people. The same can be found in all the major civilizations around the world, MOST all have flood accounts. Just as dinosaurs in picture can be found across the world interacting with humans, usually not in friendly manner.

The communists and evil of the day have to crush the truths in scripture in order to advance the lies. So they use the typical Alinsky tactics we here are all to familiar with, discredit, mock, outright lie and false accusations and burying any information that would cause doubt in their narrative.

anon I
anon I

Brian your opening statement labeled me as liberal commie witch and ended that way. A sign of a weak position.
You are apparently too lazy or crazy to even read my 8 tortuous lines of text where I explain that the flood story is widely dispersed but does not prove or even substantiate an extinction even.
Scripture is not even necessary for salvation.

brian
brian

Noahs flood was regional. The most recent extinction event occurred prior to Adam

Seeing as you are posting as anon and there is no gender assigned to that and going on the assumption that most witches are female, it would appear as you are either lying about me calling you a commie witch or are to lazy or crazy to comprehend what I wrote.

To answer you statement that the flood doesn’t prove or substantiate an extinction event. You are either completely daft to reason that a global flood account does not mean a significant extinction event. In fact I’d say that wiping out the entire planet of life, except those on a boat, IS a pretty significant extinction event. The FACT, that fossils globally are most often found mixed, meaning land based with marine animals. Fossils are created by a death and rapid burial, otherwise you do not get fossils. So having millions of fossils for examination, pretty much all showing catastrophic death and burial, worldwide, is not somehow significant??

The most recent extinction event occurred prior to Adam

This is from the Pre-Adamic false teachings. There was no civilization pre Adam and you make God to be a liar with this postulation. Death came into the world as a result of Adams rebellion, not before then. Otherwise you make God the liar for calling it good. Personally, I believe God over some person who favours lies.

anon I
anon I

You are an arrogant moron. The witch line was said tongue in cheek.
To answer you statement that the flood doesn’t prove or substantiate an extinction event.
That is not what I said. Learn to read what’s written. I said they record a flood event. I did not say they had a flood. They apparently knew of a flood, possibly through divine revelation.
Nobody called God a liar either. No civilization prior to Adam?? What a spiritual dullard you are. The death referred to in that story is spiritual death. Adios, you’re a waste of good energy.

brian
brian

You post as anon because you are a coward. The only dullard just happens to be you and it seems to be not only in physical realm we live in, but in the scriptures themselves.

They record a flood event but maybe didn’t, perhaps they heard of one somewhere. A frik’n scholar you are. You should stick to your liberal commie witch stuff, you might be better at it than the scriptures and history.

anon I
anon I

What a dolt. You prove my point. Same name and moniker for over a year. Anon I is no more anonymous than Flash or BL or brainless brian with small b’s.
Get off your mom’s couch and get a job as a door greeter at Wally’s. Only three words to remember and they even let you write it on your hand.

BL
BL

anon I- I reflect that, I think. 🙂

brian is a mouth with a pea brain attached. Not to worry, my pal Stucky will give him a lesson in politeness from the TBP handbook.

brian
brian

oh look… the bum chums… Trouble is you make statements that contradict yourself, bring in a teaching thats not supported by scripture and claim it ‘spiritual. You cannot support any of your arguments and they fall flat and have no reas9n or rational to support your claims. Then say my arguments are weak even tho you produced no counter arguments. I think you’d be better suited to that wallies job and I’ll send you a sharpie.

Barney Miller
Barney Miller

I get it now. Last week you were Stephanie.

C.a.l.
C.a.l.

You have now beyond boring and a waste of time.

Austrian Peter

JW say the date for Adam & Eve is 4004BC. There were plenty of civilizations prior to this date and much human activity.

Stucky

“JW say the date for Adam & Eve is 4004BC.”

And the Jehovah Witnesses got that from Bishop Usher, way back in in 1658. And Usher almost certainly was influenced by Sir John Lightfoot, an official at Cambridge University, who said likewise 14 years earlier. (See link below.)

I’m tellin’ ya man …. those JW’s are gonna lead you ASTRAY!! lol

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World created (according to Bishop Ussher)

Jaz
Jaz

Stucky, yes the Jw’s have a reputation for being wrong.
Numerous dates they said Armegeddon would happen. In my lifetime: 1975, 1986 and maybe others.
Their whole 1914 generation teaching was a cornerstone and that generation all died so now they have twisted again.
They have flip-flopped on the blood transfusion issue and split hairs on what blood is.
They are now telling their members to get the jab which contains material from aborted fetus’s.
Now they are a online televangelist ‘religion’ begging for money; just like what they used to condemn.
Their founder was a Freemason and snake oil salesman.

Austrian Peter

No worries Stucky – I am on my guard and merely researching the evidence. I do agree with you, but I had an idea that a monk named ‘Maximus the Diminutive’ also dated the world from the Bible but I can’t find a reference.

I myself have worked the generations in Genesis backwards to check the 4004BC date for my own satisfaction. I am using JW for their clear reading of the Bible if only their own interpretation – it’s a guide.

WRM

Indeed local, caused by the gravitational forces in the Milky Way galaxy’s “galactic plane” that act on the earth in S-N direction when we pass through. It happens every 6XXX years.

DS
DS

Dude was doing well until he started talking about the Grand Canyon. He doesn’t understand the geology of the GC at all…

Numbers Guy
Numbers Guy

My two bits: it was mid-October 1946 when I was conceived. Have no idea about Noah and when he became famous.

Nobody
Nobody

It appears the solar cycle is 12,062 years which would make Noah’s flood in 10,016 BC. The great pyramids and Angkor Wat were built to precessional perceptual scale of Orion and Draco constellations for year~10,500 BC. This precessional perception scale was calculated with modern astronomical computer programs but there is likely error from both the new program and the builders calculations so 10,016 BC is likely accurate given that it is believed that the great pyramids and Angkor Wat were built as monuments to the great flood but the question is were they built before the flood because they knew the solar cycle or after as a memorial it was likely built after because I don’t believe the structures would have survived. The precessional scaling to constellations was their way to mark the date.

Austrian Peter

Many thanks Nobody and I agree entirely with your propositions. Many years ago I read:

showing that the Sphinx and Great Pyramid where built around 10,500 BC and all three reflect Orion’s belt both in size=luminosity and layout; “As above,so below”.

Also, at this time, the constellation Leo was in the ascendant which caused the Sphinx to be modelled after a lion facing the rising Leo at the equinox. The head, which now is small in proportion to its body, was remodelled much later to reflect the Pharaoh – probably Khufu and explains why his hieroglyphs are marked on the inner stones.

I have been to Egypt, entered the pyramid, and visited Cairo museums, Luxor, the Valley of the Kings and Aswan. I have read lots of books on all this and Egyptian history. I am sure our ‘official’ history is Bravo Sierra.

I have read Oard’s book and as a meteorologist he may well have a key hypothesis except his dates are likely adrift:
https://www.icr.org/article/ice-age-genesis-flood/

Fascinating stuff – I enjoy the journey of discovery.

Stucky

G’morning Peter. I see you’re posting here so, I’ll quick mention this ….

Story …. “1 Million Hit the Streets in London to Fight for Freedom – While Millions of Americans Mask up and Go on Vacation for Memorial Day”

Wow! Maybe there is still hope for the Brits? Did you go to this? Amazing that this has hardly gotten any coverage, anywhere!

Just curious what your take is on this.

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https://survivaldan101.com/1-million-hit-the-streets-in-london-to-fight-for-freedom-while-millions-of-americans-mask-up-and-go-on-vacation-for-memorial-day/

Austrian Peter

Hi Stucky, yes I covered this I think. here are some wonderful pics:

March for Freedom: London, 29 May, 2021

I am waiting to hear from Gerry (who is asleep now I guess, it’s 12 midnight in Oz. He has been away for a break and has got behind. I will chase up tomorrow on the other thread.

I didn’t go and the BBC et al suppressed it all as usual – they are totally captured.
Cheers

Stucky

Yes, nice pics. Good article also. They said the British press is reporting this million person demonstration as —> ” a few hundred ‘right-wing conspiracy theorists’”. Holy shit … you guys are living in full-bore Days of Orwell!

Here is a video of the 300 or so (LOL) demonstrators;

Austrian Peter

Yes my friend, UK is so well locked in – we can hardly breath – the elites are past masters at control!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Compared to Canada, the UK looks like a dream.

Austrian Peter

Yes, Anon, I hear that Canada is at an extreme – I do feel for you guys – but we always thought that Canada was a bastion of freedom – how wrong can one be?

Anonymous
Anonymous

The provincial govt of Ontario, the largest by population, has dictated that the current stay at home lockdown will be extended until December. The state of emergency is necessary for the continued use of the unapproved injections. It is clear that the govt will continue to extort us until we submit to the jab.

Austrian Peter

That’s appalling Anon, if they tried it here in UK there would be legal challenges and questions in parliament – it could even bring down the government – it’s been done before. Brexit was a good example of getting the people’s will out over the vested interests – but it took some time!

For this reason, we do have a strong democracy even though it is corrupted by nepotism, sleaze and graft.

anon I
anon I

Peter and any other open minded types, here is my view on the earths age and the pre Adamic extinction event. An easy straight forward 40 minutes of audio because you mentioned not having loads of time to watch videos.
How is it we accept the last ice age ending in 10,500 BC but insist that the world is only 6 or 7,000 years old.

Austrian Peter

Great stuff anon I got it and will listen – it is of great interest to me and my long quest!

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo

For sure. I will mark that on my calendar.
Is that the Mayan, Gregorian or Rabbinical calendar?
Today is 13.0.8.10.5 right?
Do I need to sacrifice a virgin or unicorn before hand,.. I forget.

Rob

Here is a good timeline bro that I have been working on for years and looks to be fulfilled by the end of this decade:
The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

John
John

Rob, I have seen and actually read your content at sumofthyword.com website and appreciate all the effort and work you put into site and all the scriptural references. Excellent resource for several biblical topics.

Rob

Hi John! Thank you for taking the time to check out my website! Please feel free to reach out to me via my “contact” with any questions or other comments you may have :o)

Jaz
Jaz

The Bible is a construct of men. All of the Abrahamic religions consist of a lot of low vibration teachings with a few higher vibrations sprinkled in. These are Universal truths that were in existence before the Bible was penned. By the way: how many of you know that the Bible’s 66 books were chosen by Constantine. He was as evil as any people we see today.

A huge part of the Matrix is people believing as their forefathers did without questioning it.
Another part of the quandary is: Most of the followers of the 3 Abrahamic faiths are no different than the quintessential knaves and fools who still trust the establishment.

They feel helpless and fall right in the apathy trap and say”trust in God to fix this”.
Yeshua did not live or think that way at all. Even in the few years (of his 33) that the Bible talks about this is clear.
How many people are willing to be brutally honest enough with themselves to stop believing lies that are centuries old so weaved into their view of everything establishment?
Most would rather die (and will ) than stop being slaves, victims and fools of the system.

The solution is a massive shift in consciousness that would enable this kind of intellectual bravery and honesty . I think it can happen, however it will be a process rather than in a single event or moment.

Nobody
Nobody

The only game left in town? Damn, there is some serious lack of insight into the infinite possible solutions that have always existed.

Maybe the real question is:
How do those who see the full spectrum of solutions convey those solutions to those who don’t?
Or maybe more importantly:
Why do some see the infinite spectrum of solutions and others can’t see any at all?

I am beginning to think the answers to these questions are:
You can’t.
and
They don’t see the solutions because they don’t deserve any solution.

TS

Well tell us clearly and in detail all of your superior solutions. Display your inspired insight, Nobody. But don’t be surprised when they’re shown to be fantastical and as full of holes as swiss cheese, and based on wishful thinking.
Put your money where your mouth is.

Nobody
Nobody

I have shared many solutions on here many different times and dumb people who have never even tried have shot them down even though they have worked for me and many many others. You first have to define what is the solution then the path can be mapped. Most people just bitch but don’t even know what solution it is that they want. If you don’t know where you are going then how can you possibly arrive at your destination?

I cannot even speak the possible solutions I see in a lifetime much less write them. The number of solutions are truly infinite but I can see hundreds of thousands and more every second the longer I contemplate such subject. But none of what I would propose can possibly be your solution if I don’t know what define as a solution.

What do you define as a solution?

TS

Yadda, yadda, fucking yadda.
Well, that answered my question.
Don’t waste my time.

Nobody
Nobody

I defined the attributes of what a solution would achieve – for the ‘government’ to permanently leave me alone- I did the work and achieved that solution.

If you you don’t know where you are going it is impossible to get there. Fucking obvious shit but I guess achieving an actual solution is a waste of time.

As I said:

They don’t see the solutions because they don’t deserve any solution.

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman

I’m curious about your superpower. Invisibility comes to mind, but I can’t do it. What do you do that guarantees a government will permanently leave you alone?

Nobody
Nobody

I built criminal cases on ‘judges’, ‘prosecutors’, and cops and went to the grand jury to seek indictments. They tried to send me through what I call the ‘slave maze’, bounce you around to different departments in a loop to get you to go away, but they didn’t realize I had a real case with real, very solid, evidence of their crimes and I used that slave maze to build more evidence and more importantly a network of spies (true believers of the Constitution) inside the ‘courts and ‘state attorneys’ offices who were awakened to the fraud of corporate personhood and began to assist me and take off onto their own investigations. The whole thing led to a climax where I had proof of their not only obstruction of justice but complete subversion of justice where I notified the District Attorney, face to face that their actions have proven that they are the criminals who overthrew the government where I then formally notified the IRS of the overthrown status referencing my evidence. This was a total disaster for the local criminals fraudulently claiming to be government which ultimately lead to them permanently withdrawing their extortion outposts from my part of town, them completely purging all records of their extortion attempts (‘charges’) against me and the ‘courts’ instructing the police to stay away from me forever. They have never messed with me ever again.

It is clear that nearly everyone here have know idea what real law actually is. Real law is way beyond anything you have ever seen any BAR attorney ever practice. They have no clue what real law is. Real law is God -it is omnipotent, there is absolutely no circumvention of divine providence which happens to be the realized result of divine law. It took me nearly 15 years of studying law from the code of Hummarabi all the way to present law and all points in between to unravel exactly how real law functions but it took way more than historical case law, law books, contract examination, bible, constitutions, statutory, common law and law dictionaries to unravel. It required examining human physiology and especially neurophysics that drive motor function in the human body and mastery of logic along with extensive use of the scientific method within ‘courts’ to unravel the secrets of real law.

You want to be free? You are going to have to really give a shit and put in the ultra deep dive focus to achieve mastery over your existence. Does anyone here care that much? Does a chump who writes off patient wisdom in 5 seconds because he didn’t get the answer handed to him on a silver platter care about his freedom or deserve any solution to the tyranny that rules over him? What would God say to such arrogant impatience? I say the same.

Such impatient ignorant people look like luke warm fools. What does God do with those whom’s faith is lukewarm?

A hint, it involves spitting.

Glock-N-Load

Write a series of essays and share with us. I’d say all here want to learn something.

Nobody
Nobody

I have written many times in the comments here at TBP but all I get is hounded on by this crowd – they don’t want wisdom, they want bitching. I could write voluminous encyclopedias on what I have learned about law and I am not a lawyer I could write much more about my actual profession.

I collected numerous mind blowing case files of sovereigns totally dominating the courts and seen some of the craziest shit you can imagine – state attorneys losing their minds and have a total uncontrolled temper tantrum in the middle of court from being dominated from every angle, judges fired for letting sovereign filings into court records, ‘public defender’ sent by supreme court justices to ‘defend’ a guy during a 1 year and 3 month arraignment who tried to get their ‘client’s bank account shutdown and funds frozen because the ‘defendant’ would not let him be his attorney, same guy tried to start a fight with me in the middle of a courthouse, a guy charged with criminal possession of marijuana who read out loud and filed a signed copy of a notice that said he would have the judge sent to prison for perjury to his oath and state attorney sent to prison for criminal fraud if the police officer who stole his cannabis on the night in question did not return his cannabis and the won the case (I have the official court record stamped by the court and I saw it with my own two eyes. I have seen the courts send their upcoming rising star young prosecutors to social events to get intel on where our logic is flawed only to leave realizing the court system is criminal racket and then have a sitting judge who was also a professor in pre-law at a major university say to his students that the questions in this case raised the biggest questions ever raised before our courts and that the next gen would need to decide the direction of country, other cases where someone charged with felony DUI’s dominated the court and won without ever getting past arraignment, other cases I studied where people woke up had their employer stop withholding income taxes from their paycheck after declaring sovereign status with state governor was then attacked treasury, taken to federal court on multiple felonies and won never to be messed with again. I have won 8 cases in 3 states ever since I learned the truth and they don’t mess with me anymore, a man who beat them so bad in court he got an official letter signed by a ‘judge’s that notified police that if they weren’t operating on behalf of an accuser they would be held personally liable for any action without valid cause that demonstrates injury to the accuser, on and on and on.

As I said I am not a Lawyer. I just happen to be living within the protections of divine law which guides my path to where I need to be.

very old white guy
very old white guy

It would be good to have more information. Alluding to, is not accurate information. An actual something we can all use would be beneficial.

Anonymous
Anonymous

All the information you could ever need is sitting in libraries and especially law libraries as well as on the internet.

No one gave me the answer as that is impossible. No one told me what to do, I had to figure it all out on my own but I can say that at a very specific point divine law kicked in and began to guide my path. For those of you who ignore law, divine law interfaces man via divine inspiration – the inspiration comes from within you NOT from outside of you.

The explicit divine inspiration came as what I now realize is the first maxim of law:
LAW NEVER VIOLATES LAW

It seems obvious once stated but the implications and utility is supremely profound. You will not find this maxim in any law book as a maxim of law but it is intrinsically followed by scientists seeking the laws of nature and if you study case law you will realize it is held true in all cases but not in an obvious way.

From this single maxim the heirarchy of law was discovered which then enabled a clear picture of what laws are and are not applicable to whom at what times. Having the heirarchy of law ordered my comprehension of law into a very simple way to maneuver and fully utilize the protections of law. When you realize that God=Law and Law=God and you have mastered the protections of law you then realize that this is what it means to put on the full armor of God.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer

Live you life as you see fit and avoid anyone who thinks they have some claim on it.

Nobody
Nobody

I agree but sometimes psychopaths make avoidance impossible and you have to defend yourself. If you are confronted by the psychopaths and have no strategic defence skills then you going to get burned or worse.

Ghost

I second that and hope you will be able to view the two minute Smith College Big Dig by Jodi Shaw and wish her luck in her quest to humiliate the Woke Administration at Smith College.

I think you’ll like her style.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Amen !

Ghost

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Be sure to take a peek at Jodi Shaw’s “trailer” for her rap. I asked her to pop on and make a comment.

Warned her about the ads. Sigh… however, since she was terminated from Smith College for refusing to admit white privilege, the ads shouldn’t shock her so much now.

Doug
Doug

Do not let them use debt to control you.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest

All must learn, and quickly, to hate the Evil Fuckers. The stronger the loathing, and the more people who can be made to detest the B3RG*, will form the foundation of the rebellion that is needed to utterly destroy them. And They must absolutely be annihilated for Humanity to survive.

And that is what is required: firey-hot and cold-blooded HATE against the Plutocracy and their tools. And all because the Evil Fuckers ultimate objective is to liquidate* seven billion Humans.

tabarnac
tabarnac

Quick studies when family members die.

Calamity

Before Trump: These people are incompetent and don’t see how they’re ruining the country.
After Trump: These people know exactly what they’re doing and they want to ruin the country.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson

I heard today that sewage sample analysis detects Wuflu in the late 2018 early 2019 time frame. One thing that is odd in the extreme is that the same people were involved in pandemic war gaming, financial crisis war gaming, the Election Integrity Project war gaming and all the rest. Oligarchs and Dhimmicrats. Bill Gates should face a tribunal.

Anonymous
Anonymous

His old lady wants a firing squad.

August
August

We don’t need no steenkin’ tribunal.

Stucky

“Get healthy through exercise to limit your exposure to the medical industrial complex.”

In my humble opinion that is the Most Important of all. The old saying applies — without your health you have nothing.

Ever have an abscessed tooth? I did. And it kicked in on a Saturday morning. By Sunday I was going out of my mind! I would have traded my soul to the Devil for relief from that pain. And that’s just a tooth! You can be debt free, have a 100% self-sustaining lifestyle but, it doesn’t mean Jack or Shit if your health is fucked up. Take care of your body, it’s the only one you got.

Do not consume – save.
Do not obey – resist.
Do not believe – think.
Do not trust – investigate.
Do not conform – rebel.
Do not submit – withdraw your consent.

Man, that is awesome!! I have already printed it out … in huge Ariel Bold font … and scotch taped it above my computer desk. That there IS the RIGHT way to live in these “interesting” times.

Thank You for that solution.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Just a reply about your abscessed tooth and health. Had one years ago and couldn’t see the dentist for a couple of days. Pain level went from I’ll work through this to wanting to rip my lower jaw off from the pain while losing my mind. Had to be on antibiotics for several days before he treated it. Was thinking that whole time about 1. Lack of antibiotics and pain meds which really wasn’t that long ago and 2. The poor bastards that suffered from far worse maladies from everyday incidents to carved up from war and quickly understood while why their screaming for death was a blessing as far as they were concerned. Like you said…It was just a tooth. You are right…not much else matters if your health is fucked up.

Nobody
Nobody

Awesome???

Isn’t that advice just intrinsic obvious shit? I was born that way and lived everyday of my entire life that way. The fact that some people need to be told something like this is what makes our situation so scary. What the hell is really going on inside people’s mind to think that these tenets are anything but obvious basics intrinsic to the fabric of their existence?

If this is so profound what happens when some really complex thinking is required?

Stucky

“Obvious shit”, eh?

You’re not a very nice person.

I hope you keep posting. I once had 600 thumbs down on one thread. I think you can beat it. Keep posting!!

Nobody
Nobody

I remember that post. That is where you, rightfully, called out and condemned the Hitler lovers on here. I was one of the few who was upvoting you righteous disdain for Hitler.

Anonymous
Anonymous

And both of you were wrong and you’re both still willfully misinformed idiots and I blanked my name out because I don’t want an idiot like nobody spamming me all week.

Nobody
Nobody

Hitler was funded by the bankers to assist in achieving the bankers agenda. Look up Brown Brothers Harriman and Consolidated Selisian Steel Corp.

Hitler was a bankers bitch who may have or have not believed his own propaganda about going after the bankers but one thing is very clear -Hitler was most definitely funded by the very bankers he claimed to be going after. Did any of those globalist bankers disappear? Did they get stronger? Did they get their promised land? The bankers got everything they wanted from Hitler.

anon I
anon I

A grain of truth mixed with a pound of falsehood. A waste of time debating it on this site so I’ll let you have your version. This two page essay will poison the well of revisionism.
https://russia-insider.com/en/history/confirmed-anglos-and-french-responsible-wwi-death-blow-western-civilization/ri27025

Two if by sea. Three if by aliens.
Two if by sea. Three if by aliens.

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'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

Nobody knows that social and mental health requires personal ’empowerment’. Yes, it’s obvious, but consider the stress we are coping with and the need for sanity-inducing reasonable communication.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

Secretariat almost lost the first leg of the triple Crown due to a mouth abscess.

tr4head

Maybe the greatest Athlete of all time.

Intermission.

DRUD
DRUD

It’s always simple and behavioral. Like “Everything I really needed to know I learned in Kindergarten.”

I have nothing to add except:

“There are no problems
only solutions.”

– John Lennon

“If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.”

-Steven Wright

Chemistry humor is awesome.

Henry Ford
Henry Ford

Yup and yup.

I am at the gym three days per week. All ages and both of the TWO genders are there for one reason: to get and stay in shape, and be healthy. I love them all, even the ones that hog the equipment.

When masks were lifted for the vaccinated, and still only suggested for the unvaxxed for our safety of course, all the masks were gone the next day. I believe it must be because all of us gym rats have been vaxxed. Yeah, right.

Be healthy, stay healthy, feel good.

teo toon
teo toon

Learn how to use hydrogen peroxide to control or heal infections.

mark
mark

and whiten your teeth…but be careful or bye bye enamel (frigg’in coffee and wine).
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Machinist
Machinist

Stucky,
Those kinds of medical problems always seem to happen over weekends or Holidays with me.
One of the supplies I keep in my Med. supplies is Clove Oil. I keep it in a small glass bottle and hold a finger against the opening, invert the bottle and then upright the bottle again. Rub the oil on the problem tooth and gum. Pains disappears quickly but will come back in an hour or so, so rinse lather and repeat to keep the pain at bay. I’ve used it in this manner until I can seek dental attention.

GNL
GNL

Get a Red Cross toothache kit from the drug store. Yes, I believe it is clove oil.

brian
brian

Just suggested the same thing… I should read more before posting the same thing… sigh…

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

Tooth pain is one of the worst physical pains there is. Imagine how sensitive a nerve has to be to be useful inside a healthy tooth, hard as bone, hardly deforms. The design is up there with putting testicles on the outside. A less ruinous design flaw is the optic nerve connected to the inner side of the eye and causing a blind spot. It’s all intelligent design of course.

subwo
subwo

Stucky, my favorite movie about food Tampopo 1985. The dentist scene. It was a movie about ramen but had all kinds of food related segments. I feel for you. I was in dentist chair today and the sonic cleaning was akin to the marathon man movie scene for me. Also amoxicillin for humans is the same that our vet gave our dog. So there was that emergency stash I had for just in case times but dear wife cleaned out all the vet pills when last dog died.

brian
brian

Clove oil, if memory serves, takes the pain down and promotes the healing from an abscessed tooth.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

Clove oil is amazing for severe tooth pain but it tastes like chit

Anonymous
Anonymous

If I may provide the following suggestion to those still struggling, a thought exercise to help you see more clearly without the bias of your own circumstance in the way:

What advice would you give a peasant in feudal England as to how he might go about obtaining his freedom?

Would you suggest he conspire with his fellows to lead a revolt against his lord? Or perhaps he should refuse to toil in the fields until better conditions are offered. Maybe you’d tell him to sneak on a merchant ship to try his luck in foreign lands.

More likely you’ll tell him to keep his head down lest he find himself broken on the wheel.

Now ask yourself, “how is my circumstance any different?”

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman

I have a rifle.

StackingStock
StackingStock

But will you use it? And when do you use it?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot

When to use it is the bigger question.

tr4head

People think that having multiple guns and 5000 rounds makes them safe. Yet most dont even have a Level 2 Ballistic vest. One well layed round from a BLM antifa type may be all it takes to make your armory worthless.

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman

When is still unknown, but I’ll know it when I see it. Us old guys have less to fear.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

The peasant has a dagger. Same difference. It’s just a matter of enough righteous indignation to want mortal value for one’s mortal value (with absolutely no social confirmation). I think I’d rather be cocksure crazy than have doubts in interesting times. Therefore, maybe you’re not wrong.

DeaconBenjamin
DeaconBenjamin

What advice would you give a peasant in feudal England as to how he might go about obtaining his freedom?

Head for the cities and anonymity, as tens of thousands did in each generation.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest

And now, ironically, it is time to leave the cities.

ursel doran
ursel doran

Short video on the HORRORS of the vaccine effects!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOrPE0Izdw&t=211s&ab_channel=TexasRightToKnow

Henry Ford
Henry Ford

Don’t mess with Texas.

tabarnac
tabarnac

Thank you Ursel

Rusty Pipes
Rusty Pipes

Stop appointing hysterical, mentally unstable women to positions of any influence. Hear me, management?

Panama Red
Panama Red

Janet Yellen is the most dangerous woman on the planet.

Henry Ford
Henry Ford

Nah, that would be her handlers. She is dumb as a brick. An Academic turned Bureaucrat.

Steve
Steve

All we have to do is ignore the bastards as Etienne Boetie said 500 years ago. Live YOUR life. Not the one they want/ demand you live.
The other recommendations admin made are solid but for those with a
bit of adventure, now is the time to go massively in debt. As long as you purchase real assets with that debt. Example, re-mortgage the house and buy gold/land with whatever equity you can squeeze out. With the coming hyperinflation you’ll win on both ends. Gold will appreciate and you’ll pay off the mortgage in 30 years with hyperinflated(worthless) dollars. I did say it’s for the adventuresome.

overthecliff
overthecliff

I disagree that war is useless. Killing a lot of those sons of bitches and their free shit army could be beneficial. We are in a war now whether we recognize it or not.

flash
flash

“How naïve, uninformed, and foolish I was back then to think any of my proposals had a realistic chance of being adopted,”

Why we can’t have nice things…Paley had it figured out over 200 years ago.

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”

― William Paley

“Quigley held out hope based upon human virtues” …. up until about 1974 anyway.

INTERVIEWER: “One thing that intrigues me, more on just that
1974 Carroll Quigley Interview Transcript – Part 1
http://www.carrollquigley.net/Interviews/Carroll_Quigley_1974_Interview_Transcript_Part1.htm%5B10/19/2013 12:45:13 AM]

(last night my wife and I were talking about you),
was the title of the book:?Tragedy and Hope’”.
QUIGLEY: “’…And Hope’. Yes. Because I…”
INTERVIEWER: “Such a large title.”
QUIGLEY: “Yes. Now what it means is this: I think it is absolutely tragic, it is shameful,
it is sinful that Western Civilization is going to go down the drain.
When I wrote that book, which was less than ten years ago,
I had hoped that we could save Western Civilization.
I am extremely skeptical now that it can be saved.
I think we’re just about finished.

The vermin that created the franken flu bio-weapon must have really been pissed to learn that it did not affect the young, but now that they’ve got the “cure” the demonic filth are making up for lost time.

Washington Co. teen’s parents warning about myocarditis, rare condition possibly linked to COVID-19

PS. T4C . Do not take the jab. You’re son -in -law is a vile gutless punk for demanding you do, using grandchildren as leverage. Don’t fold. The risk is too great. This too shall pass.

Leah
Leah

Sick. He is saying that all will be fine in the end! Even though he was hospitalized. FTS . Sheep.

Guest
Guest

Don’t fold, not only because of the risk, but because it’s a threat and blackmail from a not very nice person. This is a personality flaw not ‘concern’. This situation seems to be happening somewhat frequently – that grandparents are in real fear their kids will divorce them if they don’t toe some line.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer

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We’re here and then we’re gone.

What we choose to do between those moments are what defines us, nothing else.

See you on the 4th!

Anonymous
Anonymous

There’s a reason life here is referred to as a “vale of tears” in our prayer to Mary. We’ve had a charmed life in the USA. It’s coming to an end, and we’re all going to be in for a more typical human experience.
The big X factor, thankfully, is the 2nd amendment. That is the only thing staving off a total takeover and neo-feudalism. We’re 90% there as it is, but all of the guns are the only thing stopping these people.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik

In a league of your own.

Mary Christine

I keep thinking I need to leave twitter but almost every day I find useful info there. When that ceases to happen, I will abandon it. Useful like this:

https://naturalsociety.com/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right-should-be-privatized/

And in the same thread someone posted this new website. It’s a work in progress but useful. I typed in Sara Lee and found out Tyson owns it and all the related brands came up.

flash
flash

We built that too.

Subsidy Tracker Parent Company Summary
Parent Company Name: Nestle
Ownership Structure: publicly traded
Headquartered in: Switzerland

Subsidy Summary Subsidy Value
State/Local $268,495,109

Federal loans, loan guarantees and bailout assistance (not including repayments) $7,200,000

https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=nestle

BL
BL

Flash- You know I have been begging people here to bust these toxic corporations by making it taboo to buy their products/services. Put your hard earned ca$h where your mouth is. Starve them until THEY ARE NO MORE. These f’ers don’t mind backstabbing and starving humanity.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

If you think your passive resistance will change the system, you are foolish. It may seem like a valid stand on principal, but it is not. You can’t take care of yourself without buying from the system. Sacrifice is not virtue. That is XianBS. Winning is virtue. Enhance your winning and move the needle to your way. This is a Gordian Knot. Don’t try to navigate it.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest

Gordian Knot is a great metaphor for the shituation.

BL
BL

I got up one day and said, THAT’S IT! I’m done with this mind fuk/control/manipulation and I began to shed any concern about the scripted world. I have related the happiness and joy it brings to my fellow commenters here on TBP.

In other words, I don’t need no solutions OR answers….I’m not playing the GAME going forward. I’d rather live in a cardboard box down by the river and eat beans out of a can than worry away what few days I have left. My mother always said, “I’ll live til I die”. #metoo

Enjoy your life, it is short.

Joe Blow
Joe Blow

A very stoic comment. I am practicing as well.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

I also follow that approach, though without the maverick independence.

BL
BL

RDoug- One must be a maverick in order to free one’s mind. God put everything humans need here on Earth, you don’t need the corporate BS. F’em…….

RiNS

Lovin’ the stoicism Bea!

This year started with a resolution to strive towards that worldview. It started out as a lark to be forgotten by the third week of January. There have been some slips for sure.

Still, following the advice that you outlined above does result in seeing opportunities where there were none before. Sure there is a need to invest some time in the workings of the world. However, it is liberating to say that there is no need for any answers, and any that are found do not need to be the cure.

BL
BL

RiNS- You can’t cure a manufactured reality/Magical Mystery Tour…..nor do you need one. You do however need to hedge against manufactured events, which I have done. Meanwhile, stay Calm and rest assure that life is better in oblivion.

PS- Don’t volunteer to end your participation in the greater game of life by taking vaccines, etc. Get the three G’s and sit back and listen to the birds sing with a cold brew. 🙂

GOLD, GUNS and a GETAWAY PLAN

RiNS

Good advice Bea…

I’m stacking silver instead of gold, the guns will always be a problem here in Canada. I have a bunch of hoops to go thru. I haven’t helped myself by making myself a target. I did slip up a month or so ago in my newfound stoicism. I wrote an email to the Minister of Justice in Nova Scotia.

It probably put me on the special list the gubmit keeps….

I wasn’t being very stoic at the time but in my defense, I did have good reasons. See I got into a spat online with some boot lickin’ retard from the Annapolis County. In the course of the shit show, he said some things and I said some back. He ended up accusing me of being a sociopath. Maybe I am but methinks he was engaging in projection.

This is what he wrote…

helphealthcare

Mar 18, 2021helphealthcare.wordpress.com

I recently thought of you. An ambulance, with siren and lighting blaring and flashing, drove through the village I live in. Traffic pulled to the side of the road. Would you? You obviously weren’t in the back and moving aside could be an assault on your freedom of movement.

I wrote him a nasty response back and told him to go fuck himself sideways with a rusty chainsaw, or something to that effect.. this was running concurrently with going on a drive to pick up my grandson for a weekend visit.

The young man got into my car, fully masked, I told him to take it off.

Whatta fucked up world we live in where six-year-old boys are expected to protect grown men. My first impulse after thinking about it moar was to write that retard another nasty note. Then I thought, I’m bitching to the wrong person. What in the fuck is helphealthcare going to do about current fix..

So I wrote an email to Minister Of Justice of Nova Scotia instead. Thinking it would be a one-and-done thing I was particularly petulant. Reading it now my words write like a child to parent complaining about having to be home for a certain time…

I started with a typical TBP rant!

Mr. Delorey

I am writing to demand my rights back. And when I say my Rights I mean all of them. I do not recall at any point in the last year that the notwithstanding clause was invoked to abrogate my Charter Rights and Freedoms. But let us be honest, who is kidding who? Your Government at no point had the balls to sit in Legislature to even carry on the pretense of a debate. Joe Howe must be spinning in his grave.

Having waited over a year for two weeks to flatten the curve, I am done with this abomination. It has gone on long enough. If you insist as Justice Minister to continue to allow decrees to be issued by this regime then we no longer live in a democracy and you by your inaction are guilty as charged of malfeasance.

Just following orders is not going to cut it.

Yeah it is a longshot. You have all the cards in the deck stacked against us but history will not be kind to people like you when this fraud is finally exposed.

This medical tyranny needs to end.

Signed

RiNS

Then shocker I get a response

Mr. Thompson,

I appreciate the frustration Public Health Order restrictions create – we have all been living with these limitations for a year now.

As it relates to the legality of the Public Health Order and specifically the Charter, it does allow for the restriction of individual freedoms in exceptional circumstances for the public good. The legality of COVID public health restrictions, as it relates to freedom of religion, was recently ruled on in a BC court. The court ruled the restrictions did not violate the Charter, given the circumstances of the pandemic.

You can read about this recent ruling on CBC and other media outlets:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-judge-dismisses-churches-petition-against-covid-19-rules-1.5955984

The Health Protection Act, which gives the Chief Public Health Officer the authority to issue these directives was debated publicly in the legislature years ago, in anticipation of circumstances such as this current pandemic. Members of the Legislature of the day had the foresight to recognize that in a public health emergency time for public debate could cost lives, and thus created the provisions that have enabled NS to be a leader in our response to managing both the health and economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic.

I am truly sorry for your frustration, and the personal toll you have experienced due to the public health restrictions that have been put in place. However, as it stands to the legality of the directives in place, I have to advise you that the province and our Chief Public Health Officer are on the right side of the law.

Regards,

Randy Delorey

Antigonish MLA
(902) 870-5899

[email protected]
http://www.antigonishmla.ca

Once over the shock I got to work

Mr. Delorey

First off what I have to say may surprise you. I agree. The regulations as written don’t contravene the charter in law. The reason I say that is because the mandates you are imposing are not laws. If I fail to wear a mask I have committed no crime. So when you talk about laws you are telling a white lie. Not a first for a politician. All you can do with your mandates is impose fines and (treat) the entire matter in eyes of the court as no better than a traffic ticket. A chickenshit move, if ever there was one.

I am not surprised that you mentioned the BC lower court ruling. Methinks that will be overturned on appeal.

In any case, you are on the wrong side of history on this one bud. Asking a six-year-old that it is up to him to protect (grown men) is arse backward to what should be happening. As long (as you) preside over this fiasco, where 99.7% of people survive contact with this not so deadly virus there is no justice and you sir are a Minister without portfolio.

Regards,

RiNS

then the shock of shocks he replies again… this time with underhanded threats, and what passes for Leadership in Nova Scotia

Well fuck him!

Mr. Thompson,

I appreciate that you have no respect for me, or it would seem politicians in general, nor for the offices I hold.

That said, I believe it is my responsibility to advise that you are factually mistaken as it relates to the legislation giving authority to the public health orders in effect for this pandemic.

As previously referenced, the legislation is the Health Protection Act, and the penalties defined in this act include the provision for both financial penalty and jail time.

For your reference, the penalties are outlined in S71 of the act.

Offences and penalties

71 (1) Every person who fails to comply with this Part or the regulations or with an order made pursuant to this Part or the regulations is guilty of an offence and is liable on summary conviction to

(a) in the case of a corporation, a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars; or

(b) in the case of an individual, a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or both.

(2) Where an offence under this Part or the regulations is committed or continued on more than one day, the person who committed the offence is liable to be convicted for a separate offense for each day on which the offence is committed or continued.

(3) Notwithstanding subsection (1), a person who is guilty of a second or subsequent offence, other than by virtue of subsection (2), is liable to

(a) in the case of a corporation, a fine of not exceeding fifty thousand dollars; or

(b) in the case of an individual, a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a period of not more than one year, or both. 2004, c. 4, s. 71.

Although at present, only fines have been issued, for more egregious or repeat offences, charges may be brought forward and a court could impose more severe penalties.

To that end, I encourage you to continue to follow the public health order issued by the Chief Public Health Officer, in accordance with the Health Protection Act, despite your frustrations and disagreement with the legislation and specific orders.

Regards,

Randy Delorey

Antigonish MLA
(902) 870-5899

To Which I replied with the followed quip.

Mr. Delorey

You are wrong sir. I do have respect for some politicians. I just have none for you. And please take it personally. That was how it was intended.

Regards,

RiNS

And haven’t heard from him since and far as I’m concerned, Randy Delorey can go fuck himself sideways with a big bucket of diseased donkey dicks!

So in closing, I’m blaming all you fuckers here on TBP when I get rounded up for re-education.. courtesy of Randy Delorey and his cabal and that fucken retard from The Valley who said what he did.

THE END

p.s. posting this likely guarantees no guns for me!

I made a few edits in brackets to help with flow.

Okay now back to being a stoic… if that is possible!

Stucky

You’re just AWESOME man!!!

BL
BL

RiNS- WOW JUST WOW!!!! I had to pop some popcorn just to read your post. TBP changing the WORLD, one moran at a time. Balls out and spot on.

Leah
Leah

My late dad and late aunt would have loved your platform as much as I do. Cracks in a foundation become gaping holes and topple the foundation. Let’s hope this happens. Will be there in spirit.

Not Sure
Not Sure

Well, the solution I get from the article revolves around individual responsibility to withdraw from the system. This is the right way to go, but it’s more like buying some extra months before the hammer drops; and drop it will.

Overall, the system will overtake even the most hidden of freedom lovers, it’s just a matter of time. The oppressors will oppress, the sheep will submit and the remnant of those still holding on will withdraw into the wilderness and become the hermits in the woods that will be the basis of parents warning their children not to venture into the forest, or the crazy ones will get you.

So be it. To yield to oppression is never going to work out well, so the only option that remains is to resist and not give in to slavery. It is best to start now, as compromises now will just be the grease that will slide you into their “plan” sooner rather than later; Remember how big gov treated the natives of this land. Eventually those who caved were given a reservation, whiskey money and compelled to forget their heritage. I would expect the same treatment they received will be meted out to any who are willing to become government property; until that property is too expensive to maintain.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

I don’t understand how someone can be self-educated and insightful and yet also be a group-think socialist.

flash
flash

You dance with the ones what brung you. Tribe up or die.

Becoming a modern society is about industrialization, urbanization, and rising levels of literacy, education, and wealth. The qualities that make a society Western, in contrast, are special: the classical legacy, Christianity, the separation of church and state, the rule of law, civil society…People define themselves in terms of ancestry, religion, language, history, values, customs, and institutions. They identify with cultural groups: tribes, ethnic groups, religious communities, nations, and, at the broadest level, civilizations. People use politics not just to advance their interests but also to define their identity. We know who we are only when we know who we are not and often only when we know whom we are against… There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are. These are the old truths we are painfully rediscovering after a century and more of sentimental cant. Those who deny them deny their family, their heritage, their culture, their birthright, their very selves! They will not lightly be forgiven.
Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhAExy0Ybkg

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

flash, I am a progressive. So are you on some level. Continuity without progress? That would be sub-Whyte.

You wrote this statement of philosophy (congrats to you):

We know who we are only when we know who we are not and often only when we know whom we are against… There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are.

In the spirit is dialectic not debate I disagree here and there, but I agree with much of your essence. I don’t argue with most for lack of value.

(1) Who I am not is stupid white people who betrayed me and through away Western civilization. The white race is a demographic group subject to the laws of nature. I argue that a certain preface is correct but protecting the white race in an unqualified binary way is a sure what to make white dysfunctional and suitable only for extinction. I want progressive whites and for me progress is rational and has the cultural core of Western philosophy and the love of knowledge, as in the way things are not the way things pretentiously should be. I want to win more than I want to be lily white or with lily white. Subsidize garbage and get garbage. Whites is not a prophylactic for regressive evolution.

(2) Cooperation is better than conflict because of compounding success, which creates exponential growth, which is something whites have done better than anyone. Yes, quality control for cooperation matters, but it’s the fruit, it’s the function, not the paint job that matters. Hate is a tool not a reasonable religion. If only whites were alive, would that end hate? (Your video reference says fracture into factions would be inevitable.) Would that end competition over limited resources or the natural suitability of parasitism and exploitation? No.

I suggest an qualified approach of hating that which is antithetical to what you love. You are wasting your energy and life on things that don’t matter otherwise.

In short, White pride should not be crutch like it is for national socialists. Pride of cultural ownership and stewardship is essential, of course. Maybe the wholesale attack on Western white men and anyone who represents traditional Western culture has blinded you. Maybe the enemy’s functional perspective in relation to you has become your perspective, and it is dehumanizing. If you can’t see individual value as individual, you are not as rational as I require for social norms.

We are in and of the world. The organic process is messy. Stagnation is death. Sacrosanct whiteness is a slow death like any incorporated patriotism. I decided some time ago that systemic political decisions typically require demographic selection, whereas individual decisions should be make on individual merit. If your nationalism interferes with individual merit and individual opportunity, your nationalism is unnatural and will fail miserably, again. Bottom up, not top down. Patriarchy not corporation.

My two cents. I know no one agrees. I wish I could conform to group think. I’d rather have ignorance and bliss. In these desperate times, I an in no way against Whyte people asserting themselves or having their own homeland. I am for white patriarchy, which is very organic, basically white-man vigilantism without embarrassment. Germanic white men did exceptionally well when government infrastructure was inadequate to dispense most justice or squash cultural process.

Western culture was great when the power and welfare of the individual and power and welfare of the community had functional overlap. It’s called merit. They are not antithetical for those with adequate sophistication.

Are you going to promote an alt-right T-shirt to whites with a brown spokesman? Really?

In short, I need to socialize by question everything and seeking the objective, natural truth. White man introspection has been weaponized against us, but it is a necessary skill for greatness. We can’t agree. Good luck.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug

Guess what? I’d rather be alone than with people who hold me back. Just because we need people does not mean we can get the people we need. Being alone can be the least worse choice available. It is like divorcing your wife if you are better off alone. Earn my value, and I shall freely give it! Whites with deficient standards are no whites at all. Down vote away, punks.

I make it a principal to not down vote. What good does it do? Business success in a free-market system is about popularity without regard to unpopularity. Your pretensions of veto power are uncivilized, tribalism is just savagery, and I can do better. Most white people are pathetic, and that goes double for my down voters. Kiss my ass. It’s the one Jesus rode. Obviously, my words hit the mark of your deep contradictions that you hold dear out of mental laziness or inadequacy. Ha, ha.

DS
DS

Excellent post RD, one of the better I’ve read recently. These are 2 gems:

If your nationalism interferes with individual merit and individual opportunity, your nationalism is unnatural and will fail miserably, again. Bottom up, not top down. Patriarchy not corporation.

Western culture was great when the power and welfare of the individual and power and welfare of the community had functional overlap. It’s called merit. They are not antithetical for those with adequate sophistication.

Just wanted to let you know that someone appreciated your wisdom. Each race/ethnic group has a quality bell curve; the key to good communities is quality people that have ethical standards, and a rule of law that is enforced. May the future remnant be so comprised…

Austrian Peter

“Make no mistake, we are at war with evil men with evil intentions, and they have no qualms about killing you or your family. Individual actions will matter.”

Well said Jim, I have read nothing more true than those few words. We are indeed at war but few understand it. It is a war for the hearts and minds of men (yes they are most often males regrettably) – just look at the list of the guilty ones you have offered – not a female in sight. I am not sure why this is important – I suspect it is – because the whole of history has seen very few women don the shady facade of an evil dictator – for whatever reason that may be speculated upon.

Your solutions are total and correct. I suspect that most will not willingly comply because, in the West at least, life remains too comfortable although becoming less so as time marches on. I believe that we are headed for an almighty economic, social and financial collapse that will rock the Anglo/American empire to it roots – it may not survive.

It will be at this point, in the midst of resource shortages, power outages, maybe even EMF or Bio attacks, that we will be forced to live our lives as you indicate in a new, emergent economy embracing the sentiments expressed by Carroll Quigley in your conclusion. I wrote my book for just such a time and my Chapter 13 and appendices explain the new emergent economy which I foresee.

However, before all this comes to pass, we will need to surmount the coming ‘Great Tribulation’ as the Evil within uses every vestige of its considerable power to avoid the final coup de grâce to be delivered by the ultimate Universal Goodness.

https://ourfiniteworld.com/

Austrian Peter

Congrats Jim – I see your Part 1 was picked up by ZH – great accolade IMO! Part 2 surely will follow.

Jaybo

Let’s see:

Have you emigrated?

Have you left Philadelphis?

What else have YOU done or not done except write drivel?

The God of the Bible is going to sort this all out and the book to read is not Fourth Turning by men who did nothing but write. We will know when to act.

flash
flash

Will trade toilet paper for hamburger…..feeling happier everyday.

JBS USA operations remain offline, as the media now reports “meat shortages” are in the future and that Russian hackers are responsible. Christian shares updates from employees, traders, and leaders within JBS to gain insight into what has become the most significant attack on our global food supply in history — and what is absolutely the latest scripted, contrived crisis by the cabal to further their agenda for control.

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Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly

It would be nice if the solutions were really satisfying, but that’s not how life works.

Ken31
Ken31

Wow that first Quigly quote is how I thought things should be and at least far closer to how things worked back when things worked better. The second one is just timelessly correct.

Another really good article.

suzanna
suzanna

Thank you Admin. for your observations and summary and solutions.
I love your 6 admonitions, and agree that it may be all we can do.

Good luck and God Speed for your plans, and all the other’s plans for
the Fourth.

Suzanna

Ed
Ed

Being a long time reader, again another spot on assessment. Being a 4th turning fan since the book came out in the 1990’s I have enjoyed your 4th turning articles over the years. I believe neither you or I could have imagined our current winter we can only speculate.. It may be America’s last 4th turning… The way its going its looking that way sadly. All your advice in their article is very good I have been doing this 20 years. I still have a flip phone.. Be as free from the system as you can.. keep the faith God Bless

jack
jack

New meme: substitute ‘vaxx’ for ‘f*ck’, like in “go vaxx yourself” or “vaxx you.” Also new versions of old acronyms SNAVU and VUBAR… 😉

The Watchman

Part two was just as good as part one. Have linked both on my website!!!!!!

The Watchman

Part two was just as good as part one. Have linked both on my website

RiNS

This guy has the solutions…

Leethal
Leethal

You are right! There is NO soul’tions except ONE. The coming reign (or rule) of God being announced now as GOOD NEWS and the FINAL sign the Messiah is returning very soon.

Oddly, you help forecast that with your BAD news. 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous

THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION,and no one was on board,they all completely missed it,THE FIRST SEAL OF REVELATION HAS BEEN OPENED,THE RIDER OF THE WHITE HORSE,WITH A NEEDLE IN HIS HAND AND A CROWN called CV,NEXT mass death,THE LORD says “I”VE LOST 145,000,000 to the RIDER ON THE WHITE HORSE,and the coming war hasn’t begun yet,THE OPENING OF THE SECOND SEAL WILL BE THIS SUMMER,,when they drop a TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPON ON OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND AT THE RALLY,AND THEY ALL DIE INSTANTLY…

ScalpelSharp
ScalpelSharp

You are either Devon Stack or TFM, but there are more and more writers coming to the conclusion that TNVUOOT.
Become as disconnected as possible, let them destroy as much of themselves as they will and hopefully survive.
The Assassin’s Mace of China has been moving forward for greater than 60 yrs in their disdain for the US. One or two elections are not going to change anything with the vast number of low IQ evil people in powerful positions.
The possibility of change can exist if there were people elected that had the stomach or will for justice to prosecute/imprison/ or deport all the traitors. These are war-like solutions for the war we are in. But those people just do not exist.

Eric T
Eric T

Great article! Well put brother! Where in NH do you go? I live up in the white mountains in coos county

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
KaD
KaD

Now I know why they’re holding the Capital invaders in solitary. Wearing them down for a plea bargain. https://freestatedaily.com/guilty-plea-from-attack-on-the-capitol-for-the-second-time/

starfcker
starfcker
BL
BL

Hey Star- That is a good example of why I stay below The Mason-Dixon Line.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest

Downvote due to no barf warning prior to the video. Point well made, however.

starfcker
starfcker

That’s a fair downvote. That was one of Jim’s homeboys, but I think it works in the Biden Administration now.

The Doctor
The Doctor

“I wrote an article one week after the election of Barack Obama in November 2008 – U.S. Economy: There Are No Problems, Only Solutions – which laid out dozens of solutions to what I considered the major problems facing our nation.

How naïve, uninformed, and foolish I was back then to think any of my proposals had a realistic chance of being adopted…”

What? You mean Obama and the oligarchs who run the world didn’t see the GENIUS of your obscure online post and call you straight away to help them solve the world’s problems? Gee whiz.

The fact that you thought your “proposals” had any chance of being adopted wasn’t naive, it was delusional.

Your problem isn’t one of naivete, it is one of mental health.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

There are no solutions. Life is a never ending always changing story. We just happen to be in a period where we are in a vortex of change kind of like being on the transition road from one highway to another.

Aaron

There is a way forward:
 
Use the so far dormant power of a state, where their resources in a legal issue are necessary.  
 
The Constitution requires states to tender gold or silver coin in payment of debts.  The US mints those coins, but then the US charges a capital gains tax on those coins.   Obviously, such a tax means those coins will never circulate as money.  

How upside down is that? Consider this: a dollar is defined in the US Code as an ounce of silver (ref: 31 USC § 5112). Federal reserve notes are neither a dollar nor are they redeemable in dollars or anything else (perhaps they would be effectively redeemable in gold and silver coins without a capital gains tax levied upon those coins). However, there is no capital gains tax levied on federal reserve notes, but there is a tax levied on what is defined by statute as a dollar.
 
How to rectify this bizarre state of monetary affairs?

A state brings a claim in proper venue advantageous to it based on the holding from McCullough v. Maryland, where the court held that the power to tax is the power to destroy such that a state couldn’t lay a tax on US bank notes.   As applied to this issue of whether the US can tax what the states must use to pay their debts, based on the holding from McCullough, no the US may not.
 
Get rid of the capital gains tax on monetary coins, and let the market decide the price and whether they circulate. Waiting for the US Congress to pass laws eliminating the capital gains tax on monetary coins shows a lack of understanding of human nature. It simply is not in the interest of any member of Congress to make their duties substantially more difficult because it would significantly reduce their ability to create infinite amounts of credit and currency. It is in the interest of a state to establish a means to eliminate debts without having to first acquire federal reserve notes.

BS
BS

Well said, beautiful article.

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