MUDFLOOD THEORY

Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer

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ZeroZee0
ZeroZee0
December 8, 2021 4:27 pm

Graham Hancock released a book a few years back called “America Before”, pertaining to The Great Flood Theory, and primarily focusing on the evidence of a comet breakup over Canada about 13,000 BCE.
There’s an awesome amount of evidence for this in the Eastern Side of my state of Washington, in the area known as “The Scablands”, where it appears that a Tidal Wave of water, ice, and enormous boulders carved out a huge selection of the landscape.
Hancock’s books are definitely worth the read.

ICE-9
ICE-9
December 8, 2021 4:36 pm

This is absurd.

Whenever a heave structure is built on soil – not on bedrock – over time it will sink into the soil. Give it enough time it will sink a lot. If it’s a rainy climate the surface soil will liquefy and the heavy structure will sink faster. E.g., Indonesia is moving its capital from Jakarta to Balikpapan because all the buildings are sinking – it was built on a coastal plain mud flat.

GNL
GNL
December 8, 2021 4:37 pm

Ancient buildings I could believe.

The capital? Not so much. comment image

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  GNL
December 9, 2021 11:51 am

There is a massive underground tunnel system below the capital including train tracks to shuttle the lazy bastards back and forth between the two ends of the building. Basements are NOT a revolutionary idea, or driven by “mud floods.”

Vigilant
Vigilant
December 8, 2021 4:43 pm

Intriguing topic. There’s no doubt that history has been hidden. I watched several videos on the John Levi channel as well as on Berserker Bear. I can’t say whether or not these two guys are credible, but I’ve noticed that misinformation is mixed in with the truth where this topic is concerned. I’d like to find out the actual age of the underground structures. Some are purporting an ELE of peoples with advanced technologies, and that history has been changed to cover up these civilizations. Speculation abounds.

Heywood Jablomi
Heywood Jablomi
  Vigilant
December 8, 2021 5:00 pm

How many resets were not recorded in the His story books?

mark
mark
  Heywood Jablomi
December 8, 2021 6:51 pm

Heywood…be careful you will blow up some globe heads.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
December 8, 2021 9:17 pm

The comment is proof enough you don’t believe your own bullshit or you wouldn’t have to insult them.And I’ve been anonymous for 8 years with no intention of falling for your anon trap. We are all anonymous here unless admin gave out our email.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
December 8, 2021 9:23 pm

POP…there goes one with No Name!

Awwww come on No Name…just a little fun tease…are you butt hurt?

Don’t be so delicate.

Picture of one of the No Names after he reads Confusion in the Cosmos…
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
December 8, 2021 11:08 pm

That’s it? That’s what you bring? Ms. Abigail has more going on than upstairs than you.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 9:42 am

Um…thanks?

mark
mark
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 10:55 am

Jeezzzzz…..No Name…read the book…maybe it won’t blow your mind because there was nothong to be blown???

Or please fill this out and send in to Admin…so he can contact trace your obvious severe case of butt hurt.

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BTW…I happen to like Abby.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  mark
December 9, 2021 11:04 am

Aw…thanks, I like you too, mark.

‘Butthurt Report Form’…hilarious! I might need to steal that.

mark
mark
  Abigail Adams
December 9, 2021 11:18 am

Yea, you have jumped right into the fray…and speak from your HEART (which is obvious),

Why No Name Butt Hurt would needlessly insult you and drag you into his hissy fit is beyond me

Poor No Name Butt Hurt…he is one of them hyper sensitive easily offended ones….
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I would never mock that type…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
December 9, 2021 10:39 am

Posting a link to a book with a glossy cover and clever picture establishes you as the smart one in the room? Are you expecting someone to buy that book?

Getting a book published is not proof nor even evidence of knowing anything about a topic or knowing much of anything for that matter.

Cutting our feet off to feel superior only works for a moment.comment image

mark
mark
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 10:59 am

Have you read the book Butt Hurt???
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
December 9, 2021 11:38 am

Wow! The hysterics are amazing. Take you pills mark. They won’t help your stupidity but you’ll calm down. Someone counters your joke with a joke and you blow gaskets while accusing me of imaginary crimes against the resident blonde.
Why don’t you just tell us what this book says in a few paragraphs instead of demanding we buy it.
But take your pills first.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 11:46 am

Come on dude…I was just teasing you (who ever you really are)…and your the one with the cheap insult to Abby.

If you would have clicked on the original image…duh…your question would have been answered…plus I just put up a review I agree with below…with a vid that is similar to the book.

Don’t forget to fill out the Butt Hurt form…inquiring minds want to know ??? (Thin Skinned???)

mark
mark
  mark
December 9, 2021 11:38 am

‘Confusion in the Cosmos’

TDHuff

5.0 out of 5 stars MIND BLOWING REVELATIONS!

Reviewed in the United States on October 28, 2020

This book was suggested by Steve w/ THINK ABOUT IT, a Christian YouTuber who speaks candidly about God’s word, current events in the world and conspiracies. I was already in agreement with what he revealed thru scripture with regard to our world, but was very curious what I might find in this book.

I am not exaggerating when I say, it is a GOLD MINE of information! From our origins to origins of all of the customs and practices the people of the world participate in today. I was already a believer, and I don’t want to spoil this book for those who want that same surprise, but the last couple of chapters revealed something to me that I never caught in scripture before. That little “surprise” revelation is big enough to turn an ashiest into a believer, and it has in my family!

I should also note, on page 374 I found myself confused about a statement the author made. He did provide his email address in the book for people with questions. I reached out to him to thank him for this wonderful work for God’s glory as well as ask for some clarification to my question. I was not certain he would respond, but he did within 48 hours and was able to perfectly clear up my confusion!

This book should be MANDATORY reading for everyone, although it is so mind/life altering, I wouldn’t be shocked if it were banned! READ THIS BOOK BEFORE IT GOES OUT OF STOCK AGAIN!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
December 9, 2021 1:38 pm

Screaming hysterically at someone to read a book that has no online reviews beyond a 5 line info ad urging you to buy buy buy a book with earth shattering information that YOU oh great one would make mandatory reading for all the world.
Your own review changed nothing. We still don’t know what it’s about.
Going to your guru’s site “Think About It” only revealed an old guy in a hoodie walking and talking in a bouncing video or glorified selfie offering to raffle off copies of this earth shattering book which is done in the same condescending
tone you use to describe us globeheads.

Are you aware of how many must read books and links you have posted on TBP?

A Flat Earther has…….
A desire to possess “special knowledge”.
Everyone else is stupid,
We all like to feel that we have something special to offer. Humans value knowledge, and people who have important or interesting knowledge are respected by others.

What knowledge could be more significant than understanding the true nature of our place in the Universe? The flat Earth theory offers exactly this. It claims that ordinary people are wrong about the literal foundation of their lives. It offers the chance to join an elite club of intellectuals who see the real truth.

The flat Earth theory can make you special. That’s a powerful attraction.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 2:07 pm

Calm down delicate one….

Ahhhh…MOUR…’Confusion in the Comments’….

You’re talking about motivation not the above evidence.

I didn’t write that review of ‘Confusion in the Cosmos’ above…but I do like THINK ABOUT IT…especially his Enoch vids. (You Tube banned him so that is more points for him).

I was so taken with the book I sent the author an e-mail, he answered and we went back and forth about it…as it was banned for a long time and Amazon would not put it out. I could not find more copies. I had some comments and questions…great guy…then he sent me three signed copies…for free! I them gave out to friends.

Watch some of the vid if you don’t want to read the book…it is similar to the book, the vid is amazing and powerful as well.

Somehow I doubt you will bother?

(try decafe).

Warren
Warren
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 9:34 am

I have no problem with you being an Anonymous. Because everyone has different risk factors. If I was still working in a Woke University, I probably would be as well.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Warren
December 9, 2021 10:01 am

If you call yourself Rumpelstilzchen, you are not easy to find in the real world either, outside of fairy tale land, and if you are from the latter, that is the least of your worries while you put yourself together again after you have just ripped your own body into bits. Just saying.

ATarese
ATarese
December 8, 2021 4:50 pm

The image at 10:18 of buried early cars makes your head spin to think how possibly recent this was.

VirgilKane
VirgilKane
December 8, 2021 5:50 pm

The biblical flood was pre-industrial civilization.
Archeological digs have shown conquest produces detritus. Those areas in desert or with bedrock are built above.
Areas with no foundation anchored to the bedrock sink.
Like St. Petersburg.
For an Architect, this is common sense.
No weird science involved.
My opinion.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  VirgilKane
December 9, 2021 11:53 am

And virtually every ancient civilization has a “flood story” as part of their history.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
December 8, 2021 5:54 pm

I am certain that whatever we are told about history is not all true and is not all of the truth. I find considering different theories enjoyable, even if we will never find the actual truth.

Devil’s tower in WY DOES look like a humongous chopped off tree, doesn’t it?

Only peripherally related: I have written before, that some of the best books have miraculously found their way into my hands, mostly from little libraries by the roadside, sometimes at tag sales and the like. Last week, I stumbled upon an audio book of 14 CDs at a library book sale.

Karen Armstrong: The case for God.

Today, I had to go on a 4 hour drive, so I started listening to it. Very dense, and I did not agree with everything, but it was enjoyable and expanded my horizon. $0.25 well spent.

Expanding the horizon and considering new points of view is usually worthwhile, I believe.

Warren
Warren
  Svarga Loka
December 9, 2021 9:37 am

Read the Adam and Eve story and watch the series about global crust shift on the Suspicious Observers yountube channel

https://archive.org/details/ChanThomasTheAdamAndEveStoryTheHistoryOfCataclysms1993FullUNCENSORED

Warren
Warren
  Warren
December 9, 2021 9:37 am
Ginger
Ginger
December 8, 2021 6:00 pm

Just look at some of the La Palma volcano videos. Happening right now.
Or you can pay attention to the smollett crap.

daddy Joe
daddy Joe
December 8, 2021 6:09 pm

Great food for thought. Now should I worry about Where next will liquefaction strike? Or are we simply sinking?

Note from Nevada
Note from Nevada
December 8, 2021 6:25 pm

Atlantis,Lemuria,Mu lost continent myths or maybe not. I am constantly amused by people who believe this old world started when they were born and will end when they move onto the next lifetime. We live such a short ‘snapshot’ in history……..

mark
mark
  Note from Nevada
December 8, 2021 10:48 pm

Dew on the grass…eh Note…

cz
cz
December 8, 2021 6:29 pm

not sure if theyre related, but mud flood utube peeps seem to also be interested in tartarian empire history/tatarian buildings.
ive not explored mud flood deeply (one cant go down EVERY rabbit hole), but
it also tends to lead to fairly recent historical building myteries, like the fact that many major US cities have burnt, destroying incredidbly grandiose stone city halls/state capitols/county court houses, some that were surprisingly ornate and massive. or incredible early state capitols were built, then not long after, torn down (desmoine, i believe was like this).
and THESE histories seem to lead to questions on how the early world fairs were built in incredibly short time frames. these were huge affairs, multiple large structues: built, then torn down…?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  cz
December 8, 2021 6:41 pm

The impossible architecture of olden days theory. All very interesting to consider.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  cz
December 9, 2021 12:43 pm

Tartaria theories seemed to pop up several places online around the same time a couple of years ago. Once again, there is definitely some merit, mixed in with a healthy dose of misinformation. There was an actual Tartarian Empire, but I don’t recall it ever being spoken of in government schools. It gets tied in with the mud flood theories and/or the hidden and lost technologies that Tesla was exploring. The actual timing of certain details and events seems to be off.

Among these theories, some credible proofs can be found, but it does take time and effort. So I have to wonder, is the hidden history and misinfo mixture being released so that thinkers focus time and energy on rabbit trails rather than taking out the trash in our government and society?

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
December 8, 2021 6:34 pm

This is interesting. Check out Plasma Theory of the Universe if you want to fall into another Google Hole.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Dirtperson Steve
December 8, 2021 6:40 pm

And the lakes on the moon are a mirror image/projection of all of the earth’s landmass, with our known maps and land comprising only a very small amount of what is really there.

Dave
Dave
  Dirtperson Steve
December 9, 2021 11:29 am

You weren’t kidding. That’s some dark Google holing there!

Walt
Walt
December 8, 2021 6:53 pm

The current and ongoing clot-shot farce / tragedy / catastrophe is the latest data point indicating that regardless of the time or place, and without regard to it’s importance to the human family – its past, present or future – the truth is a dangerous animal which must be kept at bay at all costs.
Many jurisdictions will jail a person who questions just a part of the narrative.
The truth is the solution to problems, but there’s no money in that.
The big money is made by creating problems, then introducing apparent ‘solutions’ which are just problems in disguise. Rinse and repeat..
‘Oh what a tangled web we weave..’
Over time the web just gets too tangled, and requires re-setting, war being the method that was often used.
Same this time around. It’s just unusual that they’re actually calling it a re-set, and even more so because they’re attacking the self, not the other.

Ghost
Ghost
December 8, 2021 6:57 pm

Did you know the Mississippi river literally MOVED more than 50 miles across this region?

Duh…

I grew up on local history which sometimes goes worldwide.

https://www.usgs.gov/programs/earthquake-hazards/science/summary-1811-1812-new-madrid-earthquakes-sequence

At one point the local newspaper (Bloomfield Vindicator) was going to burn their old archive and my father saved it by storing at the farm. When the Stars and Stripes Museum was built, he donated them back.

The Stars and Stripes National Museum and Library

That was after I grew up reading and help catalog and restore them.

PS for hsf…By the way, I don’t remember what post it was on, but I do remember the exchange about “We must live in the time into which we are born” versus “We are born into the time in which we must live” being more active. I hope you get a smile out of this one, since you know a bit about my father, before the onset of Alzheimers.

I’ve started a sort of farewell essay for my old community page on facebook, which has sat there idle with hundreds of folks still visiting it. The page, very popular in to people with ties to the region, proved too popular for its continuance. My father, whose passion for local history was rivaled only by his passion for taking pictures and documenting everything and everyone he ever met, left behind a mountain of local history books and photos that are priceless and invaluable yet are worth exactly nothing except heartache to me now.

Someone convinced my father to give them all rights to his intellectual property five months before he died. It was immoral and unethical and has absolutely no legal standing due to his advanced dementia. Yet. Joe Biden sits in the White House staring at the wall until someone gets him ready for his next outing.

So, with a community of thousands of people “liking” my page, I have decided to depart from the arena of sibling rivalry with the most intriguing of departures. It will be a grand mystery along the lines of Fried Green Tomatoes.

I will be changing the wording slightly, but I will definitely be plagiarizing the sentiment you posed in that comment. Something about how I was born into the time that was to become my destiny maybe… you will never realize you said it first.

By the way? The New Madrid Quakes are fucking spectacular according to local newspaper reports from first person witnesses. There are deposits of mud all over this region. Shark’s teeth too, but that’s a different geological era.

Bondgirl4ever
Bondgirl4ever
  Ghost
December 9, 2021 11:15 am

Forgive me for the interest in your post and hopefully these aren’t going to be painful or mundane useless thoughts. Being a fellow Missourian, I also feel your pain at the loss of local history. Perhaps my personal reasons and circumstances are similar to yours, yet different – I am 2 generations removed from those circumstances. Yet reading your post aroused some anger at having interesting historical facts buried, then quietly ushered to the shredder or ash heap.
I don’t know your father’s circumstances in the last year of his life, but if he was ill or mentally unable to carry on with the activities of daily living without assistance, you might want to re-evaluate the situation. If your father had designated a medical and/or financial power of attorney, and the POA was active, your father signing over intellectual property without the POA signing for father and/or being informed of the transfer could pose a huge legal issue for the buyer. If you were dealing with a family member as the buyer, even if THEY were the POA, that also presents a legal issue. Intellectual property can have a monetary value assigned to it, and if father’s will or trust specified his assets be divided equally, or in any certain manner, the POA family member could be held accountable for unequal division and favoritism to benefit him or herself.
So I hope you might find an attorney who specializes in estate law at least get a consultation. ( not that I trust many haha)
Best wishes. Love your site, love the links. Sorry but I don’t use FB.

KaD
KaD
December 8, 2021 8:00 pm

Congress votes to give Biden’s handlers $13,000,000,000 to resettle unvetted Afghan evacuees in the US

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
December 8, 2021 8:01 pm

Yes much is hidden from us. But we are waking up. That is those who want to wake up. And that is all that matters. There are many among us who still are not ready. But there are many that are ready to see the truth that we humans have been given a body and developed brain capable of implementing the plans that our father in heaven has in store for us for our perfection in his plan for the universe.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 8, 2021 8:18 pm

Nubians were White. Everything you learned in school was a lie and yes Louise, there were millions of Pre-Adamic people on Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtQnzNG8FoA&ab_channel=RobertSepehr

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Anonymous
December 9, 2021 12:52 pm

I’ve found that Now You See TV has the most credible information on Tartaria.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Vigilant
December 9, 2021 12:59 pm

I have found that Quantum of Conscience has the best arguments about how we are wasting our time with pissed on breadcrumbs like that and should instead focus on what is important in life.

Ok, gotta go, wasted enough time on here for today.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Svarga Loka
December 10, 2021 5:39 pm

Correct. Part of my comment from above:
Among these theories, some credible proofs can be found, but it does take time and effort. So I have to wonder, is the hidden history and misinfo mixture being released so that thinkers focus time and energy on rabbit trails rather than taking out the trash in our government and society?

fujigm
fujigm
December 8, 2021 9:47 pm

Many of these are newer buildings.
It is common for newer buildings to have been built on the foundations of older buildings, as until recently, it was easier than digging up, and replacing existing foundations.
On the west coast, many cities sprang up on what were river deltas, to facilitate trade up-river with incoming ships.
(Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, etc.) As these cities grew, the drawbacks became apparent of being too low at high tides (those fancy indoor toilets would backflow).
Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver were all cities where building constructors were instructed to put their main entrances on the second floor, as the streets would be raised to bring the ground level above the tides.
Then, in their engineering wisdom, they filled the streets with whatever trash they could conjure, making for very poor ground level structures (sidewalks, roads, etc.) Businesses maintained the original first floor fronts for a while as all of these cities had an “underground” still available for tours today.
As for the more ancient structures, perhaps the sands of time?

GNL
GNL
  fujigm
December 8, 2021 11:28 pm

Now that was an interesting comment.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 7:25 am

I stumbled down this rabbit hole after reading Xenophon’s Retreat. His account of walking past Ninevah and Nimrud on their way back to Greece, the magnitude of the ruins, and the complete absence of knowledge of the locals as to who was responsible for them made me wonder about man’s actual capacity to know about anything from their past. Most of it is conjecture, guess work. The rest relies entirely on the accounts of the victors, or history.

We are living through a time where we can witness with our own eyes the eradication of history, the tearing down of statuary, the elimination of figures from the historic record, the theft of grave goods and their disbursement to the highest bidder across the globe. In a thousand years what will be known about this era?

Some of it is nonsense, other parts are compelling.

I am fairly certain that what we are told about human history is about as accurate and reliable as what we are told about Jeffrey Epstein or the insurrection. What we are told is a means of control, not enlightenment. Anyone who believes that two hominids wandered out of Africa 100,000 years ago and every human race has descended from them in that brief a window is not really thinking clearly. Just because all the same academics from the same schools who receive the same funding from the same sources agree doesn’t make it true, just agreed upon.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 9:35 am

So…Christianity…means of control or enlightenment? Why do we accept some things as absolute truth and others as suspect?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Abigail Adams
December 9, 2021 2:39 pm

Biblical “Pauline” Christianity = 100% liberty. Absolute freedom. Enlightenment.

Mainstream Christianity = churchianity = massive mechanism of control.

Why? People don’t read for themselves what the words actually say and argue their own comforting points of view.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  grace country pastor
December 9, 2021 10:29 pm

Thanks, GCP. This was a question that has always bothered me.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Abigail Adams
December 10, 2021 12:19 pm

It’s a beautiful thing to come to know for oneself!

Stucky
Stucky
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 11:43 am

” made me wonder about man’s actual capacity to know about anything from their past. “

Virtually nothing. At least about really important things. It has either been lost to us forever (for many reasons), suppressed, or fabricated. Let’s talk about the pyramids for a moment.

— The oldest pyramids are about 4,500 years old.

— What data do we actually have about the social, economic, personal, etc. from an era 2,500 before Christ? Virtually nothing.

— Yet, pyramids suddenly appeared. Out of thin air apparently. The Great Pyramid of Giza being an engineering marvel to this very day.

——– So, where that all that technical and engineering knowledge come from?? There’s a gazillion ideas, some quite fanciful, but,no one knows for sure.Except for two things we do know; jack and shit.

——– Surely, the maths and sciences required to build the Great Pyramid MUST have been the result of accumulated knowledge beforehand …. some ancient equivalent to Isaac Newton. But, what do we know about the PREVIOUS 100 years before the first pyramid was built, history from 4,600 years ago?? Well, less than Jack and Shit.

Great video find HF!

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 12:00 pm

If a written history was created, it also must be translated from the original language. That alone makes for much “interpretation.” In most cases, nothing was written down. In most cases, even that which was shared through stories, mythology, etc. was lost through plagues, wars, famines, etc. And then there is the political issue. For MOST of modern time, political forces have controlled all knowledge of history, the Catholic Church being the most political of all “keepers.” What the past truly reveals will often greatly upset the power structure/mythology/control mechanisms that are in place. Just look at the issue of an earth-centered versus sun-centered solar system. Science MUST remain open to discussion and discovery as everyone who investigates and makes discoveries has their own bias which impacts how they investigate, what they investigate, how they interpret their findings, etc.

Jdog
Jdog
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 5:04 pm

Political history is often skewed to justify the actions of people and governments that have acted in inhuman and barbaric ways. Even then, the truth always remains if you look hard enough. I have seen no convincing evidence of any conspiracy to cover up natural disasters though. What would be the point?
To theorize that there was some kind of a mud flood 200 years ago that has been covered up is quite a stretch. The only evidence I see anyone present is what seems to be misunderstanding of building practices and geologic events. Ground level always rises due to erosion of mountains and hills and the redistribution of dirt over the centuries.

Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 7:13 pm

You always do articulate things better than I can. I remember before college biology running into that figure of 100,000 and out of Africa. By the time we got to there we had already learned that those numbers can’t make sense. And I just get stared at like a moron. Since then I have many more years of studying science and so I know this is just as you tell it. There are other secrets out there that some professors will admit to but are not in the text books.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
December 9, 2021 7:57 pm

Even more unbelievable is that whites, negros, and asians all evolved into very disticnt races since Noah’s flood and all went their own ways. Negros to Egypt and Cush, Asians to China Whites to Europe and Jews to the Middle East.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
December 9, 2021 8:25 am

So this guy doesn’t understand the concept of basements with windows for light and egress and constructing multi-level structures to provide more living space? Wow. A long stretch from that to global mud floods. Everyone built near rivers. Rivers flood and change course over time. Plenty build near volcanoes and other sources of fertile land. Eventually those will bury you. Build near a jungle and don’t keep the plants cut back and your buildings will be consumed and as the plant material decomposes, it will become soil. I’m not saying that there aren’t plenty of strange things out there without explanation. How they cut deep, multi-level inset carvings to near perfect precision in rocks thousands of years ago at Puma Punku in Bolivia when that would be challenging to do today is one example, but mother nature, if left alone, has a tendency to consume everything above ground.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  MrLiberty
December 9, 2021 9:27 am

There are so many remnants of prior civilizations which would be difficult to impossible to accomplish even with modern technology, pyramids, carvings in caves, or even medieval cathedrals. How does one explain that? As HSF describes, even current events are misconstrued, reinterpreted or entirely fabricated. If one goes more than 1 or 2 generations back, nothing really can be certain to be factual. It is intriguing, and yet probably a waste of time to try to get to the bottom of it. For me, it is just another nail in the coffin of “everything is a lie until proven otherwise or experienced by me personally” (and even the latter is by definition subjective).

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Svarga Loka
December 9, 2021 12:02 pm

If one goes back a week one finds that they are already at work constructing new “narratives” to shift the direction of the truth.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  MrLiberty
December 9, 2021 2:17 pm

’tis true.

Jay
Jay
December 9, 2021 5:18 pm

I’ve looked at this as well. Who knows…but it is mysterious and piques my interest.
The only fact I do know, is that our whole history is a lie.
Maybe one day we’ll know. Until then, I’m just going to poke around and see if something feels right.