Is Taiwan’s Independence Worth War?

Guest Post by Pat Buchanan

Is Taiwan's Independence Worth War?

Why would we risk our own peace and security for Taiwan’s freedom and independence, when we would not risk our own peace and security for the freedom or independence of Hong Kong?

When a man knows he is about to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully, said Dr. Samuel Johnson.

If there is any benefit to be realized from the collision between China and the U.S. over Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s proposed trip to Taiwan, it is this: America needs to reflect long and hard upon what it is we will fight China to defend in the Taiwan Strait and South China Sea.

China, after all, is a nuclear-weapons nation with a manufacturing base larger than our own, an economy equal to our own, a population four times ours and fleets of warships larger in number than the U.S. Navy.

An air-naval-and-missile war in the Western Pacific and East Asia would be no cakewalk.

A massive barrage of anti-ship and hypersonic missiles launched by China could cripple and conceivably sink the U.S. carrier Ronald Reagan now in the South China Sea. The Reagan carries a crew of thousands of sailors almost as numerous as the U.S. casualty lists from both Pearl Harbor and 9/11, the worst attacks in and on the U.S. outside of such Civil War battles as Gettysburg and Antietam.

What in East Asia or the Western Pacific would justify such losses?

What would justify such risks?

Since President Richard Nixon’s trip to China, and President Jimmy Carter’s abrogation of the mutual defense treaty with the Republic of China on Taiwan in 1979, the U.S. is not obligated to come to the defense of Taiwan against China, which claims that island the size of Maryland as “part of China.”

Our military posture has been one of “strategic ambiguity.” We will not commit to go to war to defend Taiwan, nor will we take the war option off the table if Taiwan is attacked.

But if the U.S. went to war to defend Taiwan, what would it mean?

We would be risking our own security and possible survival to prevent from being imposed on the island of Taiwan the same regime lately imposed on Hong Kong without any U.S. military resistance.

If Hong Kong, a city of 7 million, can be transferred to the custody and control of Beijing without resistance from the U.S., why should it be worth a major U.S. war with China to prevent that same fate and future from befalling 23 million Taiwanese?

The retort comes instantly.

Allow China to take Taiwan without U.S. resistance, and our treaties to fight for the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia and New Zealand become suspect.

Belief in the U.S. commitment to fight for the nations of East Asia and the Western Pacific would dissipate. The entire architecture of Asian defense against Communist China could disintegrate and collapse.

If we allowed Taiwan to be taken by China without intervening, it is argued, the value of U.S. commitments to fight to defend scores of allies in Europe and Asia would visibly depreciate. U.S. credibility would suffer a blow as substantial as the loss of South Vietnam in 1975.

The fall of Saigon was followed by the loss of Laos and Cambodia to communism, the overthrow of the shah, the Iranian hostage crisis, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the strategic transfer of Ethiopia, Angola, Mozambique, Nicaragua and Grenada to the Soviet bloc, and the rise of Euro-communism on the Old Continent.

Pelosi’s prospective visit to Taiwan, and the bellicose reaction of Beijing, should raise other relevant questions.

If this should lead to a U.S.-China war, what would we be fighting for? And what would victory look like?

A restoration of the status quo ante? Permanent independence for Taiwan, which would require a new and permanent war guarantee by the U.S. and a new U.S.-Taiwan defense pact?

Would a permanent commitment to fight to defend Taiwan from China be acceptable to an American people weary of commitments and wars?

Again, why would we risk our own peace and security for Taiwan’s freedom and independence, when we would not risk our own peace and security for the freedom or independence of Hong Kong?

And after our victory in the Taiwan Strait, how would we secure indefinitely the independence of that nation of 23 million from a defeated power of 1.4 billion, bitter and bristling at its loss?

Consider: China, in this 21st century, has grown massively, both militarily and economically, and in both real and relative terms, at the expense of the United States.

Nor are the growth trends for China, with four times as many people as there are Americans, favorable to the USA.

What guarantees are there that 2025 or 2030 will not bring a more favorable balance of power for China in what is, after all, their continent, not ours?

Unlike in the Cold War, time is not necessarily on the side of the United States and its allies when all three of the nuclear powers in East Asia — China, Russia, North Korea — are hostile to the USA.

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26 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
August 2, 2022 8:55 am

Like Pelosi would actually be on a plane flying into a dangerous situation… She’s probably either drunk in some luxury hotel at the plane’s last stop, had assurances she believed that the Chinese are just bluffing, or the Chinese paid her off to look like a hero for future favors to be repaid. I’m leaning toward the former.

PleasureOhm
PleasureOhm
  Anonymous
August 2, 2022 9:22 pm

She’s paid off by the slanty-eyes. No way they take her out.

Will
Will
August 2, 2022 8:58 am

I think ceding control of the worlds primary trade routes to the Chinese is a wonderful idea. We should wallow in decline.

DFJ150
DFJ150
August 2, 2022 9:04 am

Never mind that the majority of the world’s microchips come from Taiwan, and what’s left of our pathetic, woke military relies 100% on those chips for its equipment to work.

flash
flash
  DFJ150
August 2, 2022 9:23 am

Americans don’t need no stinkin’ tech, bruh We got a money printing machine and we be kicking dat’ can.

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
August 2, 2022 10:19 am

A prerequisite to becoming a “successful” politician.

Kick The Can Down The Road

Amazing all the stuff Al Gore put out there on his Internet.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  DFJ150
August 2, 2022 11:09 am

Ceasing to manufacture microchips in the US was our fuck-up. We can’t remediate that by policing the entire world. It’s called the South China Sea, not the South United States of America Sea. Even if it were “right” to defend Taiwan’s independence, it’s not possible, long-term. We live on the other side of the planet. Our aircraft carriers are sitting ducks. Our military is focused on trans rights and similar bullshit. What’s worse than letting the Taiwanese figure out some way to get along with Mainland China would be to let them be deluded into thinking we “got their back”, whereupon they get destroyed prior to their inevitable integration into China. And then they’d be hated by the victorious Chinese rather than treated (even disingenuously) as reunited brethren. People in Taiwan understand this, which is why opinion is not strongly in favor of declaring independence. We signed on to the One China concept 40 years ago. The die was cast then. Like most of our wars, this is not our goddamn fight.

BL
BL
  Iska Waran
August 2, 2022 11:31 am

Iska- Ceasing to make almost everything we need in America was our fuk-up. When Taiwan was ceded to Japan in a treaty then to ROC, nobody really wanted the place. That was 200+ years ago now there are $$$$ to be made off tiny Taiwan . Agree it’s not our fight.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
August 2, 2022 4:08 pm

I believe the Ching Ho manufacturing dupe began in earnest when S. Kresge Corporation was renamed K-Mart Corporation in 1977. Around Texas until then were a chain of Gibson’s Discount Centers and I know the one I shopped began to feel the squeeze when a K-Mart located the area. The American consumer yearns for less expensive products, we consumerists so wa-la, like my dad would say about the 60’s and change, “well, we got it.”

“Ladies and gentlemen if you would direct your attention to the blue light on aisle…”

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 2, 2022 9:04 am

Hallmarks of my unrepentant youth:

Made IN japan. Made IN hong kong. Made IN taiwan. A smattering of other places, culminating in MADE IN CHINA. Hell, even stuff i’ve received from sojourners to mexico says “Hecho en chine”.

“Since President Richard Nixon’s trip to China,”

You should know pat, seems like i read something about you being on the tarmac with tricky dick when he went. To sell Us out. And into bondage. Unless it has been removed from your personal site?

http://buchanan.org/blog/

No Worries. Nothing Personal. Everyone, at some point, picks their own path. Free Will indeed.

democrat/republican/other?

ALL. THE SAME. and SAME AS IT EVER WAS.

Stucky
Stucky
August 2, 2022 9:43 am

“China, … [has] an economy equal to our own …”

Why do people keep spouting that BULLSHIT???

Only brainwashed USA!USA!USA! chanting morans still believe the USA!USA!USA! has an economy equal to, or greater than, that of China.

Hey … there’s nothing wrong with chanting … “We’re Number 2! WE’RE NUMBER 2!!!!”

BL
BL
  Stucky
August 2, 2022 11:48 am

Stucky- We are still the richest country on Earth because we have more joos, so there’s that.

We’re #1 in wealth niggah!

Stucky
Stucky
August 2, 2022 9:51 am

First they came for Ukraine and I did nothing. Then they came for Taiwan and I did nothing.

You know how the rest goes. If we do not intervene and defend democracy all over the globe … if we just sit idly by as the fucking COMMIE HOARDS take over one country after another …. then the USA will cease to exist by 2025! (Which is also the year Global Warming destroys the Earth … and that’s NO coincidence!)

Defenders of Democracy. It’s who we are. It is a heavy burden, for sure. But, it is one which Almighty God has decreed upon us. We must obey the Lord. Really.

m
m
  Stucky
August 2, 2022 10:26 am

Exactly – with the minor twist that the US is now the Commie bastion.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
August 2, 2022 11:18 am

Nancy Pelosi likes the theater, doesn’t she?

Winchester
Winchester
  Anonymous
August 2, 2022 12:35 pm

That Ilhan looks like a Ferengi with a head scarf.

ubi
ubi
  Stucky
August 2, 2022 2:00 pm

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Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
  Stucky
August 2, 2022 3:08 pm

Democracy is a wannabe god and idol that always destroys its worshippers.

overthecliff
overthecliff
August 2, 2022 11:28 am

Short answer is no. The risk reward ratio is to high. Biden is a drooling fool but the people calling the shots are rational if evil. They can make great profits having a war with non-nuclear opponents . Look elsewhere for an easier war.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  overthecliff
August 2, 2022 12:38 pm

There’s always Grenada. We might still be able to take them.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Iska Waran
August 2, 2022 1:04 pm

IDK,Iska, they might be tougher than hey were . I’m thinking Kosovo. NATO ia talking intervention .

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
August 2, 2022 3:02 pm

I would like to rephrase: We would be risking our own security and possible survival to prevent being imposed on Taiwan the same regime lately imposed on US. Thanks Pat, but as usual your good thoughts are roughly fifteen years behind the curve.

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
  Daddy Joe
August 2, 2022 3:04 pm

By the way, American credibility can’t sink much lower. But I’m confident that our “leaders” will find a way.

KJ is a faggot
KJ is a faggot
  Daddy Joe
August 2, 2022 9:27 pm

They would have to have any for it to be able to sink.

Marky
Marky
August 2, 2022 9:01 pm

Is Taiwan’s Independence Worth War?

NO

ken31
ken31
August 3, 2022 8:50 am

I don’t even think it is worth a minor inconvenience.