Guest Post by Dr. Robert Malone
At the moment, there is a very active discussion regarding the increasingly viral video “Died Suddenly”. Other commentators (for example “The Daily Skeptic” and Josh Guetzkow) have appropriately noted that the (generally well funded and produced) video includes segments which are misleading at best, falsely imply one or more cause-effect relationship between a sudden death event and vaccine administration, or otherwise employ cinematic license to stoke outrage. I have previously written regarding the business model of Stoking Rage for the up and coming podcaster, and in my opinion this strategy is fundamentally the same as the “fearporn” business model of corporate media – and in particular CNN.
For what its worth, I hold “our side” to higher standards than I have come to expect from corporate (broadcast and published) media. I reject the assertion that, on the battlefield of the current 21st century unrestricted media and information war which we are immersed in, it is acceptable to employ the tactics of our opponents. I have heard others in the medical resistance community advocate the schoolyard “logic” of “they are doing it to us, and so we have to do it to them”. I firmly reject this. Any “win” on the information war battlefield which is based on this type of rationale will be transitory and self defeating. It is not a win if we become one with the ethics of our opponents.
This is not just an information war, it is a battle over what is right and good versus what is fundamentally evil. Our opponents clearly believe that the ends justify the means, and that ethics – right and wrong- are completely situational and subject to the same logic widely accepted by the “Virtuals” caste; that there is no objective truth or reality, and reality and ethics are whatever one believes them to be. The ultimate derivative of the logic of “cultural relativity”. The logic from which springs the transsexual movement denialism of the genetic/biologic basis of gender.
As I have said so many times, in so many lectures, our opponents in this information war, this war on truth and integrity, have no ethical guardrails. Ethics are entirely situational in their world.
Repetition has merit in this case; our opponents appear to believe that the ends justify the means, and their cause is sufficiently compelling (in their minds) to justify any actions of censorship, defamation, mis- dis- or mal- information deployed to support their cause. In their minds, they are fighting for a higher cause (Globalism? Utilitarianism? Socialism/Marxism? Totalitarianism? Fascism?) which justifies jettisoning ethics and fundamentals of respect for the integrity and dignity of others.
Furthermore, this has become about tribalism and demonstration of tribal allegiance, and is not about me, or you, or medical freedom, or anything rational. This IS about mass formation, or mass psychosis, of the formation of crowds, or whatever term you wish to apply to the phenomenon so thoroughly described and documented by Freud, Le Bon, Arendt, and (yes) Desmet and their contemporaries.
I have consciously and intentionally chosen to cross-post the Daily Skeptic and Josh Guetzkow commentaries concerning “Died Suddenly” because I believe that they have made important points which should be discussed, but in so doing I have become a target for a small troll army which has swarmed those threads with accusations that I have a personal vendetta with Stew Peters, and which have attacked me as if I were the author of the cited essays.
Let me assure you now that I have no time or interest in further engagements with Stew Peters. He is irrelevant, as far as I am concerned. A modern carnival barker.
There is nothing in this “Died Suddenly” which represents new news, as far as I can tell. This seems to mostly be a sensationalized but well-produced video covering information which has been known for quite some time. While Steve Kirsch was interviewed in the film, he did not fund or sponsor the production, or have any input beyond his personal interview, and neither he or his organization endorses it.
For me, this is sort of “round two” on this general topic of “died suddenly” video clips. Long, long ago, in what seems like a galaxy far, far away, I was still on Twitter and GETTR was still coalescing. Which is to say between one and one and one half years ago. And I cross-posted another video regarding the “died suddenly” meme. In that case, the cross post involved a compilation of short video clips of athletes who had “died suddenly”. One of the clips in that montage was of a young male who most definitely died suddenly on the field while competing, but the tragic event took place prior to the SARS-CoV-2 genetic vaccine deployment. In other words, it fit the broader “died suddenly” narrative (presumably from acceptance of mRNA vaccine), but this was clearly a false association.
Because I once was one of the more prominent members of the Twitter and Linked In communities who were speaking out concerning the lack of ethics and safety in the EUA mRNA vaccine deployment and mandate policies, I was seen as an important influencer on those platforms. As a consequence of cross-posting a video montage which included a false association involving the tragic death of a young man, I received a rather aggressive and accusatory cease and desist letter from lawyers representing his family and estate. Basically, I was accused of exploiting his death (and the associated video of same) for political purposes, even though I did not produce the video in question (rather, I merely cross-posted it). Strong language was used in asserting that I was intentionally disrespecting the young man and his family.
Frankly, my reaction to the letter was a mix of horror and pity. Pity for the parents and family, who were probably being inadvertently forced to re-live a personal tragedy. Horror that I had in some way compounded or contributed to their pain.
What did I do? I immediately deleted the cross-post, and apologized to the family via their legal representative who had contacted me. I had acted in ignorance. I assumed that the video (which I believed came from a credible source) was accurate. But I had acted wrongly. Immediate deletion and apology, acknowledging the harm inadvertently done, was the closest I could get towards being consistent with my own personal commitment to fundamental integrity, respect for human dignity, and valuing my community (and community ethical standards).
This is directly analogous to one of the apparent breaches of accuracy in the current “Died Suddenly” video, wherein (apparently) an example of sudden death is being used which is demonstrably unrelated to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID) vaccination. It may or may not even be the same event.
My opinion is that these breaches of technical accuracy are not acceptable.
For either side of the debate. It is often said, when debating an opponent (or an internet troll) that “you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts”. Furthermore, these types of “artistic license” distortions of truth cause both damage to the credibility of the arguments being made (which may otherwise be valid), and can also cause psychologic pain.
Furthermore, these types of errors become weapons which will be deployed against us by our opponents in this unrestricted information war battlefield.
Allow me to provide a counter example from recent history. The Jeff Hays video production of “The Real Anthony Fauci,” a full-length feature documentary based on Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s runaway bestseller, was meticulously (internally) fact checked before being released. Anything stated during the many interviews which were used to generate the final product which could not be documented was left on the cutting room floor. It did not rely on either hyperbole or misrepresentation. And (unfortunately) it did not go viral. But it will withstand the test of time.
As stated previously, I could care less about a former bounty hunter who started a podcast to take down Alex Jones, and has seemingly sought to replace him by becoming a sort of well-financed (?huh, where did that come from?) second-tier shadow projection/mimic of a shock jock. Alex Jones, whatever his personal flaws, is the real deal. Just read his book, which analyzes the Klaus Schwab/King George III “Great Reset” agenda. Solid. Factual. Insightful.
The question which I do think we all need to grapple with is what is Stew Peters, and who does he represent? Based on what I have observed, he mostly represents himself. Are his ethics your ethics? Are they our ethics?
The collective answers to these questions by the medical freedom community will further define who we are. What are the ethical standards to which we will hold ourselves?
As far as I am concerned, that is the question that really matters.
The rest is merely a tale, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, and full of passionate intensity.
Is this (below) who we are, and does it represent an example of the type of “ends justify the means” ethics that we wish to promote? If not, then I suggest that we all think long and hard about what “our” community standards are going to be, now and in the future.
The truth is like a lion. You do not have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.
Turkish bath house entrance bell, Istanbul
Furthermore, the truth will eventually come out. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, and maybe in some cases (JFK and RFK senior assassination?) it can be hidden for a long time. But it will come out.
To that end, the “truth” of the corporate media subterfuge concerning the “Hunter Biden Laptop” story may soon be revealed by Mr. Elon Musk. If so, then this is a shot across the bow of corporate media and the Administrative State. I suspect that Elon has the receipts on much of what has gone on. And he is in a position to enforce “new rules”. Maybe, maybe, there is hope for the cause of integrity.
When the dust settles, which side do you want to be on?
Elon Musk to release all internal documents on censorship of Hunter Biden…
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Perhaps the good Doctor could opine on what these videos represent….
HOAX OR HORROR? Two More Streamers Suffer “Sudden Illness” and Collapse on Livestream – Are People Seeing Something Evil Chasing Them Moments Before Collapse?
Those, and the other films around, look like something out of the work of David Paulides and others, who explore unexplained disappearances and other bizarre phenomena.
A longtime ZH poster who has been in med tech but left, due to the coronahoax requirements, related a story about some people who were trying vaxx detox protocols involving light, and they acted straight out of The Exorcist, with no memory of the event. She felt strongly that she could trust the source of the story, and she has true integrity.
Sorry to be cryptic, but I am not an intimate of hers and do not have permission to mention her ZH handle here. If any other ZH exiles who now post here recognize who I refer to, please respect her anonymity.
It would be interesting if all of this technocratic mass murder and mark of the beast monetary control, etc., were in behalf of some non-human entities who may be interdimensional or some other arcane, unproven weirdness. The jury is out on all of those subjects, but if true, they would explain much of what humanity has always reported experiencing down the ages.
These people are totally being loaded up into the Metaverse or the cloud the Matrix, etc. These are starting to seem freaky deeky along with the circling animals. If these going ons are fake can anyone shed some light on this? Any other freakdeeky stuff?
What if people found their dead loved ones walking around on Metaverse? Is this a selling point?
Dying people batting away unseen demons. Some from over the left shoulder and some from over the right – but always appearing to sneak up from above and behind.
What could it be? Physiological? Metaphysical? Digital? Something else?
Gastroenterological.
Comes from eating too much fermented soy and seaweed.
Hahaha, Food poisoned drunk riding the Mechanical Bull!!
The good doctor had the blood of millions on his hands before the covid hoax.
Regarding the picture and theme it illustrates:
Shades of Miyazaki’s Howl’s Moving Castle.
Umm, seriously Elona isn’t going to be your new “Hero”. Sorry Muskiavellians. It’s a big club and we ain’t in it. Mr Lucious Needful is though. Tread carefully. I haven’t made my mind up about Dr. Bobby. But I’ve heard some questionable things, especially when interviewed by Dick Allgire.
I would like to know why Malone is suing these two psychiatrists over a disagreement about Mass Formation Psychosis, a term he made up. Desmet’s term was Mass Formation. I’ve always had a problem with Malone because of his admitted connections with DARPA.
https://www.americaoutloud.com/robert-malone-sues-the-breggins-for-25-million/
The fact that he alone has been allowed as much leeway, when literally hundreds of other doctors were disgraced and ruined, speaks volumes to me about Dr. Bob. Plus he has skins in the game, since he helped invent mRNA and has multiple patents, and has become the celebrity du jour when it comes to any vaccine discussions (like Steve Kirsch).
Dr. Bob makes enough money to jet around the world with the rest of his club. Like another doctor who just played his part (Oz), Bob is still onstage doing his shtick.
Why are you garbling the facts?
Desmet said in his first videos that the clinical term is “Mass Formation Psychosis”, but he doesn’t like to call it that as it immediately suggests any member of that movement is psychologically deranged [so it causes a defense reflex instead of serious contemplation.] Desmet even said that directly to Malone, but Malone chose -for reasons unknown to me- to not heed Desmet’s advice.
(To be clear, that in no way makes Malone evil or even disrespectful; it’s full within his legitimate free speech rights.)
It is very important that we look at the details of “mass formation psychosis” theory, because looked at closely, DeSmet ultimately says that the victims are to blame, that they somehow want the delusion. This paves the way for getting the perpetrators and enablers off the hook. Please see Peter Breggin’s (himself a psychiatrist) review of DeSmet’s thesis: https://breggin.com/article-detail/post_detail/Mattias-Desmet-Mass-Hypnosis-Expert-or-Trojan-Horse-The-Full-Story Malone’s lawsuit against the Breggin’s is just one reason I do not trust him.
“nasty use of speculative psychoanalysis to dismiss serious researchers investigating the origins of COVID-19, and a purposeful cover-up of the elites and the globalists responsible for the worst outcomes inflicted on humanity during the pandemic.”
What an absolute dumb-ass statement.
1. Is there also non-speculative psychoanalysis in existence?
2. WTF has any of this discussion to do with the origins of Covid-19??
3. HowTF does mass formation let the elites and the globalists off the hook?? It is actually an explanation why no serious assessment and possible indictment of people responsible [for decisions regarding Covid handling] has happened so far.
“[mass formation (=mass hypnosis; also according to Breggin)] does not happen when people feel so alone and isolated that it breaks their hearts and renders them apathetic and withdrawn.”
That’s exactly when it happens, as then the craziest ideas on how to lead them out of that valley of despair, find a fertile breeding ground!
(And how exactly did it come to ‘people feel[ing] so alone and isolated that it breaks their hearts and renders them apathetic and withdrawn’?
Should serious psychoanalysis not also look into that?)
“madness of crowds or mass hypnosis [couldn’t happen as] Crowds were outlawed during the worst COVID-19 oppression.”
So Breggin believes crowds absolutely require physical contact [not just communicative contact]??
These are all total straw-man arguments by Breggin.
I could go on and on, but do your own research.
Breggin is either a complete moron too much in love with his own theories, or a paid instigator to divide the globalist oppostion (just as Viviane Fischer currently slandering Fuellmich.)
lmk:
You didn’t tell us what Malone’s lawsuit is about -and I have better things to do than research that-, but I tend to think Malone is probably justified in suing him.
Mass insanity has been around for few thousand years, call it whatever you want it is still same damn thing.
Half right is not all right.
It would be unfortunate if the embalmer / blood-clot portions end up being marginalized as a result of some other segments in the video being discredited.
Unless that was the plan?
Did Malone jump off the Vax train as soon as he realized the horror he and his research buddies had unleashed so he could save his own skin or has he been controlled oppo all this time? My guess is he never figured on the brave embalmers exposing this evil and thought the masses would all either be dead or too incapacitated to find him culpable as the months/years of deaths rolled on. It’s almost funny if it weren’t so terrible. The good ‘Dr’ who spews copious articles explaining his theory of ‘Mass Psychosis’ ad nauseam may be taken down by the ‘lowly common man’. Embalmers and a Bounty Hunter. I love it.
The Gateway Pundit reports today (11/29) 3 suddenly died stories. One, a 37 year old country musician, Two a 22 year old paramedic/fireman and three a 23 year old university basketball player. This died suddenly criticism from people on “my side” are asking me not to believe my lying eyes. To which my answer will always be a hard, NO! 40% increases in deaths for one demographic group, 500% increases in casket production and in excess of an additional 1 billion dollar payment for life insurance and you want to tell me to “take the high road?” Did I say NO? I meant, Fuck the fuck you! Killers create killers. I do not take the high road for murders.
Without the legitimacy of a legal framework, an effective vigilante is considered a serial offender in competition with the Leviathan. Both society and the angry survivors are owed better than that. Otherwise life becomes civil chaos which real ((sociopaths)) are ready to take advantage of.
The sheriff can hang vaxxing bastards after a quick trial by jury and impartial verdict. There’s your healing process. Be the posse.
How many times have I found what at first appeared to be a great resource to forward to friends and relatives to explain what is going on, only to find that it has claims that are either speculative or are presented in such a sensationalist fashion that it appears absurd, even if it is true. So I do have some sympathy in a general way for what Malone posits here. On the other hand, even the weather is sensationalized, and it’s hard to get people’s attention. But it is ridiculous for Malone to preach about ethics. Another poster has brought this up below. I have been following this for a while, and I cannot see how Malone has been defamed in any way. Criticized, but not defamed. The Breggin’s are absolute heroes, exposing the the dark underbelly of psychiatry for decades now, as well as the covid agenda. But Dr. Breggin has been critical of the mass formation psychosis theory for good reason because its final conclusion is to blame the victims. Malone on the other hand has been promoting this theory. (see https://breggin.com/article-detail/post_detail/Mattias-Desmet-Mass-Hypnosis-Expert-or-Trojan-Horse-The-Full-Story) Acceptance of this theory gets perps and enablers alike off the hook. It seems Malone wants the Breggin’s silenced. A 25 million dollar lawsuit is a great silencer if only by distraction. The question is why. He has modestly mentioned that he would be happy to serve in a Trump administration. With his collaboration with government projects, most notably DARPA, I think caution is warranted before embracing his ideas wholeheartedly.