That scene always irked me. If they just switched to lunch 3 minutes ago, howcome all those people have burgers? Most of them should have been eating breakfast.
Bea Lever
November 29, 2016 12:39 pm
I hope the bots can also eat those nasty burgers at McD’s because people want service. That seems very cold and unfriendly to me. How much profit does a corporation need?
Long time ago, merchants discovered ‘self service’. By putting merchandise on shelves, customers could get what they wanted. This concept was first used by hardware stores, and groceries. Eventually it moved to gas stations, ATM’s, big box stores (lumber yards). Now most stores have self service checkout.
A kiosk or tablet – order right away – no waiting for waitress – place your own order (not having the server screw it up) – I’m sure the order is printed legibly for the kitchen. Runner delivers the food -I don’t even think you need to tip. Swipe your own credit card – no waiting for waitress or in line at the cash register.
Dutchman- You love bots/machines and I love people. Machines leave me with a empty feeling and I doubt I will ever have a sexbot but YOU are going to love it. Real ginnys are just so 20th century….right?
-2
November 29, 2016 12:40 pm
Red Robin the hamburger chain already has individual table computers where you can order and pay with cc.
Now they need to take the next step and have a robot deliver your order to your table.
Fiatman60
November 29, 2016 12:40 pm
They have these things installed at our local Mc D’s to which I know some of the workers, and the manager. They insisted that I try the kiosks to order my food. I said “Oh please don’t ask me to eliminate your job”, they replied ” Oh no! they would never do that!!” Uh huh…… just like the bank tellers back in the 80’s eh?.
By this time the manager came out to greet me, and ask how was life, and would you like to try our new ordering kiosk?
I said sure!! How much of a discount on the burgers there was now that a machine was doing the work? Complete silence and the “deer in the headlights” look.
Really nice people……. but they just don’t get it………..
Flying Monkey
November 29, 2016 1:43 pm
The FED hates poor people. Not only does it erode the poor’s purchasing power through its money printing, but it is an outright war on their jobs by depressing the price of capital, which makes automation like this more affordable. I would use the kiosks in a heart beat so as not to have to wait in line. But unfortunately there are other costs to society. A society will always have people that can do little. We still need jobs for dumb people. Either we keep minimum skill jobs open for them or we welcome them to the social welfare rolls and then they have all day long free to procreate and expand the welfare rolls.
There’s a lot of trash on the 30 Blocks of Squalor to clean up.
Homer
November 29, 2016 1:44 pm
Ya! Amazing things happen when price discovery get pegged to a socialist fantasy. In the case of wages, when they become unprofitable, they just plain disappear. Wages are a tax consequence, a cost to business. Robots are a capital expense that can be amortized, a write-off of a cost.
Employees are demanding and complaining, strike-prone, subject to off-days and sick days and lack allegiance to the company in which they get their daily bread.
Robots never take a sick day, don’t file for unemployment insurance, never complain to their co-workers or boss, show up on time and work faithfully and never ever insult a customer.
The choice is simple, a socialist freeloader or a machine that eventually gets paid for out of tax revenues. Duh! It’s a no brainer!
TPC
November 29, 2016 2:04 pm
I think it will be a bit longer for the grill automation, its more difficult than most think to create burgers the way McDonald’s does and still be clean in a fully automated situation.
I do think they will 100% get rid of people taking orders, as well as handing food to customers. It will just be the people cooking food and sacking it off, which then will go onto a conveyor for either carry out or dine in.
I can see some fast food chains doing a cost benefit analysis. They may decide that dine in customers can build their own burgers – sort of like a salad bar – you buy the burger and assemble it your self – the different toppings won’t be worth charging a price differential since they eliminate one or two paid employees assembling the burgers.
Of course, the government wants to tax you on an annual basis for any machine that you use to replace an employee . Gotta make up that lost revenue somehow for the burgeoning unemployment and social welfare costs.
“A fine mess you got us into, Stanley”. This is what happens when government puts their thumb in the plumb pudding. Sooner or later, the government is going to run out of finger to put in all the holes it created in the dike. I bet sooner. Government was a grand idea, carried forward by high-minded idealists, an idea that evolved in to a social quagmire. Which goes to prove–
You are infinitely more qualified to run your own life than a bunch of bureaucrats. But…then again maybe you don’t want to take the responsibility.
If they eliminated all other bullshit (min wage, medicare/caid, SS, student loans, etc) then it would actually be fucking cheaper than what the fuck is going on right now.
Llpoh
November 29, 2016 7:13 pm
I have this argument in Australia. Everyone who works deserves a living wage, they say. I respond that not everyone who works can actually earn a living wage. That wanting a living wage is great, but China and others do not give ve a shit, a worker must actually earn such wage, or they will not be workers, but rather unemployed.
All I get is angry stares, and a repeat – but workers deserve a living wage!
I guess they prefer unemployed. Deservings got nothing to do with it.
Boat Guy
November 29, 2016 11:09 pm
Sadly what was an entry level part time position for students where they developed a work ethics and where employers saw it as part of their business model where every year a few kids left and a few came in and the cycle continued but no more ! That entry level job is all that is left and you may pay for community college or keep a cheap car on the road but you will not be contributing to the tax base and that is trouble ! Many WAL MART employees actually qualify for public assistance at some level so a Fortune 500 company needs taxpayers to support their business model by subsidizing their employees and let’s no forget 40% of gross profits are from welfare payouts !
The pressure on declining wages is increasing you now must pay for health insurance , retirement while employers are relieved of that but pay higher business taxes so now to buy a home and live comfortably you need to earn $ 65 plus per hour on a 40 hour week and the only place people come close to that now is government jobs otherwise a high education and that is no gaurentee !
I known it is unpopular but union scale wages were the only private sector with adequate compensation . Strange point to ponder : school teacher , fireman & policemans union are good but steel workers and other industry unions are bad . So the tax base that supplied the fireman policeman & school teachers with their benefits and salary don’t deserve the same protection
Overthecliff
November 30, 2016 10:08 pm
When the machine can do the work for less is the day it will be installed. ANY JOB.
Overthecliff
November 30, 2016 10:10 pm
When the machine can do the work for less is the day it will be installed. ANY JOB not just fast food.
Automation is much better than having to interact with some low IQ neegrow.
But that leaves the low IQ Negro running loose and unsupervised with nothing useful to do.
Idle hands breed mischief as the old saying goes.
Gotta find some useful productive place for them in the economic system, one where they can contribute instead of burden.
That is a problem: we have a lot of ‘extra’ people that aren’t needed. Where’s Joe Stalin when you need him?
Maybe we could hunt them. Charge $1000 a head licensing. Thin the herd, so to speak. Enter the survivors in the 100 meters at the Olympics.
That scene always irked me. If they just switched to lunch 3 minutes ago, howcome all those people have burgers? Most of them should have been eating breakfast.
I hope the bots can also eat those nasty burgers at McD’s because people want service. That seems very cold and unfriendly to me. How much profit does a corporation need?
Bea, it’s just the natural progression of things.
Long time ago, merchants discovered ‘self service’. By putting merchandise on shelves, customers could get what they wanted. This concept was first used by hardware stores, and groceries. Eventually it moved to gas stations, ATM’s, big box stores (lumber yards). Now most stores have self service checkout.
A kiosk or tablet – order right away – no waiting for waitress – place your own order (not having the server screw it up) – I’m sure the order is printed legibly for the kitchen. Runner delivers the food -I don’t even think you need to tip. Swipe your own credit card – no waiting for waitress or in line at the cash register.
Dutchman- You love bots/machines and I love people. Machines leave me with a empty feeling and I doubt I will ever have a sexbot but YOU are going to love it. Real ginnys are just so 20th century….right?
Red Robin the hamburger chain already has individual table computers where you can order and pay with cc.
Now they need to take the next step and have a robot deliver your order to your table.
They have these things installed at our local Mc D’s to which I know some of the workers, and the manager. They insisted that I try the kiosks to order my food. I said “Oh please don’t ask me to eliminate your job”, they replied ” Oh no! they would never do that!!” Uh huh…… just like the bank tellers back in the 80’s eh?.
By this time the manager came out to greet me, and ask how was life, and would you like to try our new ordering kiosk?
I said sure!! How much of a discount on the burgers there was now that a machine was doing the work? Complete silence and the “deer in the headlights” look.
Really nice people……. but they just don’t get it………..
The FED hates poor people. Not only does it erode the poor’s purchasing power through its money printing, but it is an outright war on their jobs by depressing the price of capital, which makes automation like this more affordable. I would use the kiosks in a heart beat so as not to have to wait in line. But unfortunately there are other costs to society. A society will always have people that can do little. We still need jobs for dumb people. Either we keep minimum skill jobs open for them or we welcome them to the social welfare rolls and then they have all day long free to procreate and expand the welfare rolls.
There’s a lot of trash on the 30 Blocks of Squalor to clean up.
Ya! Amazing things happen when price discovery get pegged to a socialist fantasy. In the case of wages, when they become unprofitable, they just plain disappear. Wages are a tax consequence, a cost to business. Robots are a capital expense that can be amortized, a write-off of a cost.
Employees are demanding and complaining, strike-prone, subject to off-days and sick days and lack allegiance to the company in which they get their daily bread.
Robots never take a sick day, don’t file for unemployment insurance, never complain to their co-workers or boss, show up on time and work faithfully and never ever insult a customer.
The choice is simple, a socialist freeloader or a machine that eventually gets paid for out of tax revenues. Duh! It’s a no brainer!
I think it will be a bit longer for the grill automation, its more difficult than most think to create burgers the way McDonald’s does and still be clean in a fully automated situation.
I do think they will 100% get rid of people taking orders, as well as handing food to customers. It will just be the people cooking food and sacking it off, which then will go onto a conveyor for either carry out or dine in.
I can see some fast food chains doing a cost benefit analysis. They may decide that dine in customers can build their own burgers – sort of like a salad bar – you buy the burger and assemble it your self – the different toppings won’t be worth charging a price differential since they eliminate one or two paid employees assembling the burgers.
Side benefit: hepatitis spreads like wildfire! The insurance industry would never let that happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_fSP3LGw8
Of course, the government wants to tax you on an annual basis for any machine that you use to replace an employee . Gotta make up that lost revenue somehow for the burgeoning unemployment and social welfare costs.
“A fine mess you got us into, Stanley”. This is what happens when government puts their thumb in the plumb pudding. Sooner or later, the government is going to run out of finger to put in all the holes it created in the dike. I bet sooner. Government was a grand idea, carried forward by high-minded idealists, an idea that evolved in to a social quagmire. Which goes to prove–
You are infinitely more qualified to run your own life than a bunch of bureaucrats. But…then again maybe you don’t want to take the responsibility.
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Funny!
You know these people vote, right?
Guaranteed Basic Minimum Income, here it comes.
If they eliminated all other bullshit (min wage, medicare/caid, SS, student loans, etc) then it would actually be fucking cheaper than what the fuck is going on right now.
I have this argument in Australia. Everyone who works deserves a living wage, they say. I respond that not everyone who works can actually earn a living wage. That wanting a living wage is great, but China and others do not give ve a shit, a worker must actually earn such wage, or they will not be workers, but rather unemployed.
All I get is angry stares, and a repeat – but workers deserve a living wage!
I guess they prefer unemployed. Deservings got nothing to do with it.
Sadly what was an entry level part time position for students where they developed a work ethics and where employers saw it as part of their business model where every year a few kids left and a few came in and the cycle continued but no more ! That entry level job is all that is left and you may pay for community college or keep a cheap car on the road but you will not be contributing to the tax base and that is trouble ! Many WAL MART employees actually qualify for public assistance at some level so a Fortune 500 company needs taxpayers to support their business model by subsidizing their employees and let’s no forget 40% of gross profits are from welfare payouts !
The pressure on declining wages is increasing you now must pay for health insurance , retirement while employers are relieved of that but pay higher business taxes so now to buy a home and live comfortably you need to earn $ 65 plus per hour on a 40 hour week and the only place people come close to that now is government jobs otherwise a high education and that is no gaurentee !
I known it is unpopular but union scale wages were the only private sector with adequate compensation . Strange point to ponder : school teacher , fireman & policemans union are good but steel workers and other industry unions are bad . So the tax base that supplied the fireman policeman & school teachers with their benefits and salary don’t deserve the same protection
When the machine can do the work for less is the day it will be installed. ANY JOB.
When the machine can do the work for less is the day it will be installed. ANY JOB not just fast food.