Israel First or America First

Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan

Israel First or America First

Donald Trump has a new best friend.

“President-elect Trump, thank you for your warm friendship and your clear-cut support of Israel,” gushed Bibi Netanyahu, after he berated John Kerry in a fashion that would once have resulted in a rupture of diplomatic relations.

Netanyahu accused Kerry of “colluding” in and “orchestrating” an anti-Israel, stab-in-the-back resolution in the Security Council, then lying about it. He offered to provide evidence of Kerry’s complicity and mendacity to President Trump.

Bibi then called in the U.S. ambassador and read him the riot act for 40 minutes. Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer charged that not only did the U.S. not “stand up to and oppose the gang-up” at the U.N., “the United States was actually behind that gang-up.”

When Ben Rhodes of the National Security Council called the charges false, Dermer dismissed President Obama’s man as a “master of fiction.”

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Query: Why is Dermer not on a plane back to Tel Aviv?

Some of us can recall how Eisenhower ordered David Ben-Gurion to get his army out of Sinai in 1957, or face sanctions.

Ben-Gurion did as told. Had he and his ambassador castigated Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, as the Israelis dissed John Kerry, Ike would have called the U.S. ambassador home.

Indeed, Ike’s threat of sanctions against Prime Minister Anthony Eden’s government, which had also invaded Egypt, brought Eden down.

But then Dwight Eisenhower was not Barack Obama, and the America of 1956 was a more self-respecting nation.

Still, this week of rancorous exchanges between two nations that endlessly express their love for each other certainly clears the air.

While Kerry has been denounced for abstaining on the U.N. resolution calling Israeli settlements on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem illegal and an impediment to peace, this has been U.S. policy for years.

And Kerry’s warning in his Wednesday speech that at the end of this road of continuous settlement-building lies an Israel that is either a non-Jewish or a non-democratic state is scarcely anti-Semitic.

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Prime Minister Ehud Barak, the most decorated soldier in Israel’s history, has warned his countrymen, “As long as in this territory west of the Jordan River there is only one political entity called Israel, it is going to be either non-Jewish, or non-Democratic.”

“If the bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote” added Barak, “this will be an apartheid state.” Of John Kerry’s speech, Barak said, “Powerful, lucid … World & majority in Israel think the same.”

Defense Secretary-designate Gen. James Mattis warned in 2013 that Israeli settlements were leading to an “apartheid” state.

After Joe Biden visited Israel in 2010, to learn that Netanyahu just approved 1,600 new units in East Jerusalem, Gen. David Petraeus warned: “Arab anger on the Palestine question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnership with governments and people in the region.”

Yet facts and reality, however unpleasant, cannot be denied.

The two-state solution is almost surely dead. Netanyahu is not going to remove scores of thousands of Jewish settlers from Judea and Samaria to cede the land to a Palestinian state. After all, Bibi opposed Ariel Sharon’s removal of 8,000 Jewish settlers from Gaza.

How will all this impact the new Trump administration?

Having tweeted, “Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching,” and having named a militant Zionist as his ambassador, Trump is certain to tilt U.S. policy heavily toward Israel.

Politically, this will bring rewards in the U.S. Jewish community.

The Republican Party will become the “pro-Israel” party, while the Democrats can be portrayed as divided and conflicted, with a left wing that is pro-Palestine and sympathetic to sanctions on Israel.

And the problem for Trump in a full embrace of Bibi?

Britain and France, which voted for the resolution where the U.S. abstained, are going to go their separate way on the Israeli-Palestinian issue, as is the world.

Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf Arabs will be pressured by their peoples and by the militant states of the region like Iran, to distance themselves from the Americans or face internal troubles.

And once U.S. pressure ends and settlement building in the West Bank proceeds, Netanyahu, his hawkish Cabinet, the Israeli lobby, the neocons and the congressional Republicans will start beating the drums for Trump to terminate what he himself has called that “horrible Iran deal.”

Calls are already coming for the cancellation of the sale of 80 Boeing jets to Iran. Yet, any U.S. withdrawal from the nuclear deal, or reimposition of sanctions on Iran, will further split us off from our European allies. Not only did Britain and France vote for the Security Council resolution, both are party, as is Germany, to the Iran deal.

Having America publicly reassert herself as Israel’s best friend, with “no daylight” between us, could have us ending up as Israel’s only friend — and Israel as our only friend in the Middle East.

Bibi’s Israel First policy must one day collide with America First.

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anarchyst
anarchyst
December 30, 2016 8:40 am

It is long overdue to get this Palestine statehood issue resolved. Seventy years of obfuscation while Israel encroaches on Palestinian-owned land is enough.

As to “betrayal” it is the USA that has been betrayed, multiple times, by its “friend” and “ally”, Israel. Despite TRILLIONS in “foreign aid” and “loan guarantees” given by the American taxpayer, it is never enough…

Israel is not our “friend”…never has been…never will be…

It is easy to see the pervasiveness of Israel’s Mossad (if one knows where to look), arguably the most effective spy agency on the planet, please read “By Way of Deception” by Viktor Ostrowsky.

From the Lavon affair (a “false flag” operation (designed to draw the USA into a war with Egypt by making it look like Arabs bombed the U S interests section–a planted bomb exploded prematurely, exposing this as a Israeli planned and executed “incident”) to the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty (NOT “misidentification”, but another “false flag” attempt to draw the USA into a war with Egypt and to hide the deliberate massacre of civilians in an Egyptian city, Deir Yassin), to Jonathon Pollard and NSA spying utilizing a company named Amdocs (which handles all US telephone billing records), you will find that Israel looks out for Israel’s interests ONLY.

Normally, there is nothing wrong with a country looking out after it’s own interests, BUT Israel has a nasty habit of spying on (and setting up) its “friends”.

Who the hell died and appointed Israel the “master” of the middle east?? Iran (and all other middle-eastern countries) KNOWS that any nuclear “discharge” would affect the whole middle east… Any country that possesses nukes is not stupid…

Israel has over a hundred nukes, manufactured with stolen American classified technology, refuses inspections of its nuclear facilities and is, in general, a “pain in the ass” to the rest of the world, along with (blackmailed) “big brother” United States of America.

In fact, under current U S law, it is ILLEGAL for the U S to give “foreign aid” to any country that possesses nukes and has not agreed to IAEA inspections or controls–Israel being the only exception to this “rule”…

It is no secret that the U S State Department is infested (infected?) with dual-nationality Israeli-Americans who form (and foment) the bulk of our neocon “foreign policy” straight from Tel Aviv. In fact there are 40 or so congressmen and senators with dual-nationality “ties” to Israel.

Most people are unaware that Israel holds a “Damocles sword” over the world. Any attack on Israel will be met with a nuclear device being detonated in a city of Israel’s choosing. Israel calls this the “Samson option” and is very real.

Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as its nukes are distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”.

Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran. You can bet that some Iranian passports will be found in the rubble.

Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities, thanks to Dolphin-Class submarines sold (or was it given?) to Israel by Germany. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

Old Guy
Old Guy
December 30, 2016 8:49 am

Gotta say, I’m pretty much pro Israel. But I also gotta say, I was there 25 years ago and I thought to myself on the plane ride to Paris that the Israelis and Palestinians basically deserved one another.
They are both hard headed, contentious and have a visceral hatred of each other. Two state? One state? Makes no difference. It won’t be resolved. Ever.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Old Guy
December 30, 2016 9:14 am

The “Palestinians” along with the rest of the Arabs and every Muslim nation or Muslim in the world will not be satisfied till Israel is gone and every Jew dead.

But I’ve read the back of the Book and I know who wins, choose your side it will be the one you will either live or die on.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/12/28/usexit-amexit-however-you-describe-it-the-u-s-needs-to-quit-the-un-cut-off-its-funding-then-kick-the-un-out-of-the-us/

flash
flash
  Old Guy
December 30, 2016 9:38 am

yes of course, because they are siblings…no hate or love can be stronger. We the people should not allow ourselves to be drawn into that power struggle between born enemies . Nothing good will come of it…as we all may soon see.

Racist
Racist
December 30, 2016 9:22 am

And the confusion begins. Well played.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 30, 2016 9:24 am

Islam is not just a “religion”, but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem’s life. As such, NO Constitutional “First Amendment” protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago… It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself–if it can…

Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold “dual-citizenship”. One cannot have split loyalties…split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

There is another “group” of dual-citizenship” types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a “certain little country” in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid “vacations” to this “certain little country” as a “reward” for doing that country’s bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal “policy wonks” and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that “certain little country”. It is reasonable to question who they really work for–the USA or “that certain other country”.

It was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of that “certain little country” in the middle east…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that “certain little country” in the middle east…

flash
flash
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 9:56 am

I wonder anyone else thinks that allowing US congress critter to hold dual citizenship with Israel is pushing the limits of stupidity into the territory of insanity?
I found this list of dual citizenship holders in US government here , but it’s not not current.
https://jhaines6a.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/list-israeli-dual-citizens-in-the-us-114th-congress-and-bernie-sanders-is-on-it-j/

TampaRed
TampaRed
  flash
December 30, 2016 10:25 pm

Are these people considered dual nationality because they are Jewish or do they actually pledge loyalty to Israel?

anarchyst
anarchyst
  TampaRed
December 30, 2016 11:39 pm

No, they hold dual-nationality with Israel by pledging loyalty to Israel..

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 10:08 am

“Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold “dual-citizenship”.”

Tell that to Mexico first.

They’re by far the largest problem at this time.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 30, 2016 9:27 am

Actually Islam and Judaism have much in common. Each “faith” professes an almost identical form of supremacism with punishments for transgressions against non-believers much less severe than those committed by non-believers against those of the “chosen”–both moslem and jew. One could safely argue that Islam is an arabicized form of Judaism. Both Islam and Judaism believe in Gods of vengeance, unlike the Christian God of Peace and redemption.
Read the Jewish Talmud and Islamic Koran to see for yourself.
One divergence from similarity is the way Jesus Christ is looked upon…
Jews consider Jesus Christ a heretic that is “boiling in excrement for eternity”, conceived by his mother Mary, who is looked upon as a harlot, who consorted with a Roman soldier.
Contrast that with the Islamic Koran, which regards Jesus Christ as a great prophet…not the “Son of God”, but a great prophet nevertheless. His mother Mary is specifically mentioned in the Koran and is given a place of high honor.
Now, which “belief system” is more hostile to Christianity?

kokoda the deplorable
kokoda the deplorable
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 10:17 am

Then why don’t we see and read about all the severed heads committed by the Jews. And the stoning to death of women for adultery; And women treated as property.

anarchyst – you are a normally level headed and bright person, but you have an obvious thing for the Jews.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  kokoda the deplorable
December 30, 2016 10:21 am

I have no love for either zionist jew or moslem–a pox on both of them…
I am an American and resent the hell out of Israeli influence on our “foreign policy” as well as its control over our political processes, along with the 40 or so congresscritters who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Mexican dual citizenship does not confer the political power that Israeli interference in MY country’s affairs does…
I care not what Israel does–keep MY country out of their affairs. That 38 billion dollars that we gave to Israel could be better spent at home…
Regards,

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 10:29 am

The one whose Holy Book calls for killing all unbelievers including Christians, denies Christ is the Son of God, and condemns worship of Mary as a god aside from other gods (something I agree with for different reasons BTW, even if Catholics don’t)?

Which do you suppose that would be?

A hint: it also says “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 10:38 am

You are correct that the Koran (later passages) condone violence against non-believers and, as such has been corrupted…by those with ulterior motives. It is interesting to note that there are almost identical passages in the jewish Talmud as in the Koran, regarding supremacy of each respective “group”…
That being said, I trust neither today’s zionist jews or moslems.
Note, that unlike the Bible, the Koran’s later passages take precedence over the earlier passages, thereby promoting the violent nature of today’s moslems.
Islam needs to reform itself, (if it can), just as Christianity did hundreds of years ago…
It is probably an impossible task to expect moslems to reform…
Regards,

KaD
KaD
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 11:46 am

The big difference and reality is that Muslims actually DO violence against non believers, Jews do not.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  KaD
December 30, 2016 11:51 am

Jews do it covertly…the Mossad is proof

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 12:35 pm

This was the Christian Church reforming itself: http://www.luther.de/en/95thesen.html

Interestingly enough, Martin Luther very publicly nailed those 95 truths to the front door of the Church, if he had gone to the Church leaders behind closed doors to present them I doubt anyone would ever have heard of them, or of Martin Luther again either.

I don’t think this is possible in Islam, the reformation of the Church was based on the truths of the Bible that were being ignored by the Church but the Koran as it is written is what is being practiced today by Islam.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 1:13 pm

Ah yes, Martin Luther the great divider…how very Machiavellian.
The Christian Church was unified in the defense of all Christendom for over 1500 years and along comes Luther suffering major butthurt cuz #feels and lodges the poison Protestantism in the congregations throat and viola next thing we know 23000 independent interpretations of the Christian faith spring up and like bucket of shit in a barrel of wine the whole thing turns fetid and the faithful fall away.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 1:14 pm

part two here:

flash
flash
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 12:04 pm

“This abominable book (the New Testament) galvanized the murder of millions of Jews during the Inquisition and during auto da fe instances,” Ben Ari said adding that “Sending the book to MK’s is a provocation. There is no doubt that this book and all it represents belongs in the garbage can of history.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4257174,00.html

Nothing but love for Christians coming out of Jooland fer’ shure. We must reciprocate , but how with an anti-Semite like Obama running the country?

U.S., Israel Sign Historic 10-year, $38-billion Military Aid Deal
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.742074

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
December 30, 2016 12:40 pm

FWIW, there were only about 32,000 total “heretics” killed during the inquisition and possibly as many as 300,000 persecuted into penitence.

Most of them Protestants.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 1:17 pm

You don’t know jack about any church history, yet here you are like the common blissful idiot a jabbering on.

Jack Lovett
Jack Lovett
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 1:48 pm

I am total agreement here. The murdering nuttin yahoo has been butchering innocent people for how long now? The US is Israel’s puppy dog.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anarchyst
December 30, 2016 10:05 pm

Anarchyst regurgitates the same old anti-Semitic crap.

Hey, anarchyst, please provide your source for the boiling in excrement bullshit. That is not what Jews believe. You ever read any of the Talmud? First, that little passage is mentioned once, in passing, in one story, and many if not most scholars dispute it references Jesus.

Fuckwit.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Llpoh
December 30, 2016 11:45 pm

your name-calling says it all.
You may be confusing the Talmud (the book of rules for jewish daily life), with the Torah (the first 8 books of the Bible.

Some quotes from the Jewish Talmud books. Here you go…

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Miriam the hairdresser,” had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young

A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”

Jesus in the Talmud:

Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ

While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.

For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group–one of the largest in the world–we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

“The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of ‘Jesus the Nazarene’:

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.

[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Lubavitch”Noah’s Covenant Website,” as it appeared on their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].

Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.”

Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus (“Yeshu” and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu “the Nazarene”) was executed because he practiced sorcery: “It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry…He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone.”

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. On one of his whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to her, crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the prostitute farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: “Just as this gas will never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven.”

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: “On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.”

Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy (“catarrh”) a Jew should “take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog’s excrement as it loosens the limbs.”

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

Talmud: Bammidber Raba c 21 & Jalkut 772 Every Jew, who spills the blood of the goyim (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.

Sanhedrin 59a. To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old.

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. If a grown man has intercourse with a little girl less than three years old, all agree that it is not a significant sexual act, for having intercourse with a girl when she is less than three years old is like putting a finger in an eye. Just as a tear that is shed when a finger is inserted in an eye will be replaced by another tear, so too will the virginity of a little girl who is less than three years old be restored, for her hymen will grow back.

Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

Jebamoth 94b. If you eat with a Gentile (non-Jew), it is the same as eating with a dog.

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255. Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work.

Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who “marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…”

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Libbre David 37. To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if they knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

flash
flash
  Llpoh
December 31, 2016 10:34 am

Red Ass got me RTFLMAO.. stick with what you know Loopy , which BTW, is extremely limited.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Llpoh
December 31, 2016 10:48 am

message to Llpoh: of course some jewish “scholars” will dispute their own writings and teachings. They do not want to see the support of the misguided Christian zionists and the money spigot turned off…

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
December 30, 2016 11:10 am

Trump doesn’t give a sh– about Israel, one way or the other. And he protests too much when he makes his pledges of undying love. The Jews are far too clever to be taken in by his “I Love Israel” act, and he knows it. His policy will be to stand back and let these Bedouins of both tribes fight it out. Anybody who seriously thinks that a Christian white guy who made his pile in the New York real estate market does not understand all there is to know about the Jews is, to say the least, naïve. Everything Trump stands for is in direct opposition to their core interests and they know it. They also know that now is not the time to try to stand up to him. It did not work out too well last November. They will lay low and wait for their chance. Trump knows that, too. It will be interesting.

MN Steel
MN Steel
  Southern Sage
December 30, 2016 6:58 pm

Well, good thing all his kids married Hindus and own property in the embattled Kashmir region and work hard weaving baskets…

Oh, wait…

JLewis
JLewis
  Southern Sage
July 10, 2022 10:47 am

Well this proved to be one of the most asinine predictions regarding trump’s israel first presidency.

Stubb
Stubb
December 30, 2016 11:36 am

Israel controls .06% of the entire land mass in the middle east. The arab goatfuckers control the rest. What’s the fucking problem again?

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Stubb
December 30, 2016 11:50 am

The “problem” is that Israel controls the United States Congress, and by inference, our “foreign policy”, as it relates to the middle east.
THAT, my friend, is a HUGE problem–for US and the world…
Regards,

flash
flash
  Stubb
December 30, 2016 1:24 pm

You may not be tall enough for this ride.The short bus will be along directly.

Afterhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld
completing his PhD in 1971, van Creveld returned to Israel and began teaching at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He became a professor in 1988. In 2007, he retired from teaching at Hebrew University, and began teaching at Tel Aviv University’s Security Studies Program.[2]

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/06/transcript-available.html
VOX: Speaking of the US, I am curious to know what the general opinion in Israel is of the American neocons who, like you said, have been trying to overthrow Assad. They have overturned the Ukrainian government, the Libyan government, the Iraqi government, etc. What is the general view of the neocons in Israel?

MVC: Oh, we love them. The Israelis are very happy to fight the Arabs and the Iranians with American blood. During the first Gulf War, Israel was then under Yitzhak Shamir and did whatever it could to encourage an American invasion of Iraq. I wouldn’t say that this was decisive but they tried. It was the same when the Americans invaded Iraq for the second time. It was the same when Americans clashed with Iran over nuclear weapons. Each time you can see this very consistently. You can see the Israeli Right and, to some extent, even the Left say okay, this is lovely, we are going to let the Americans put the chestnuts in the fire for us.

Myself, I must say, that I dislike this policy very much. But certainly most Israelis like it. They like to be on the side of the strong as I see it. They push America as much as they can into these ventures. Just today I saw a famous t-shirt that says “Don’t worry America, Israel is behind you.” I also know that some Americans, like Pat Buchanan, have been writing that these lousy Israelis have been trying to use American for their own purposes and have unfortunately they have succeeded. So, personally I am not happy about this policy. I think that it may well one day act as a boomerang.

VOX: Do you think it is bad for Israel to be dependent in that way?

MVC: Yes, because, as we say in Hebrew, “the one who’s got the money has the say.” It’s bad in several ways, it is bad in the sense that we are tilting too much in the Republican direction. That is a bad thing in my view. It’s not bipartisan. There is a danger that one day support for Israel will probably fade and people will say enough of this. They will say Israelis are exploiting us with American-Jewish help. They are exploiting us for their own purposes. Let them go and fight their own wars. I have been warned more than once by my American friends that this is one day going to happen. It hasn’t happened yet but it is going to happen one day and it worries me. Frankly, it worries me.

VOX: Yeah, you don’t want to use your allies on a war that you don’t need and then not have their support when you actually need it.

MVC: Exactly.

TC
TC
December 30, 2016 12:26 pm

“Politically, this will bring rewards in the U.S. Jewish community.”

LOL, no it won’t. The jews loathe Christians more than they loathe Muslims and terrorists, and that’s why 85-90% vote Democrat election after election, despite regular servicing by the bumbling sycophants in the GOP.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TC
December 30, 2016 1:36 pm

There are both Christian and Islamic communities in Israel, both fully functional parts of Israeli society and government. Huge numbers of Christian tourists are welcomed there each year.

How many Christian and Jewish communities do you find in Islamic countries and how are they allowed to participate in them?

You might ponder this a while before dismissing it.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Anonymous
December 30, 2016 3:12 pm

You are correct about there being Christian and Islamic communities. However, it is illegal to proselytize in Israel.
The Haradim are also extremely disrespectful to both Christian and muslim, reserving the major part of their disdain for Christians.
It is not uncommon for these religious jews to spit on and berated Christians. Their hatred of Jesus Christ, and by inference, Christianity knows no bounds.
Even the local police “look the other way” when abuses by the Haradim are evident.

Stucky
Stucky
December 30, 2016 12:33 pm

“Islam needs to reform itself, (if it can), just as Christianity did hundreds of years ago…
It is probably an impossible task to expect moslems to reform…”
——— anarchyst

Indeed, it is impossible to reform Islam. Here’s why;

— Christians believe the Bible is inspired by God. Written by human hands under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. One thing this does is allow Christians to admit there are possible mistakes that were introduced over thousands of years of translating and editing — or, at least, things that need to be changed or reformed from their original meaning. Islam cannot do that, and remain Islam.

— Mooselims believe the Koran was literally dictated by Allah. They literally believe it is a PERFECT book, without flaw. To change even one tiny thing would be tantamount to arguing or disbelieving Allah. That’s why two thousand years from now, mooselimfuks will still be beheading infidels, and believing that god loves this kind of shit.

Islam is un-reformable. Islam must be changed into something else. And that probably ain’t never gonna happen either, because then it won’t really be Islam anymore.

Stucky
Stucky
December 30, 2016 11:59 pm

“You may be confusing the Talmud (the book of rules for jewish daily life), with the Torah (the first 8 books of the Bible.” ———- anarchyst

Eight books? Really? Torah = first FIVE books

To miss something so basic really damages your credibility. It’s like a history teacher saying George Washington was our nation’s 5th president. Who would ever again trust what that teacher said?

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Stucky
December 31, 2016 12:13 am

…hey, i’m old and had a brain lapse…lol

flash
flash
  Stucky
December 31, 2016 10:41 am

Stuck, if you can spare an hour or so in betwixt remodeling and New Years revelry , how about give this a view and maybe do some of your invaluable analysis on the legitimacy of it all. Happy New Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSgJYRp6Uc&t=41s

Stucky
Stucky
  flash
December 31, 2016 1:19 pm

Finding 90 minutes to watch a vid is gonna be difficult. But, I put it in my “to watch” folder and will get to it eventually. Watched the first 10 minutes, and it looks good.