In Order To Make America Great Again, Does Donald Trump Need To Sit Out 2024?

VIA THE BLUE STATE CONSERVATIVE

Despite being the only Republican candidate who could have won in 2016, he is currently (in my mind, at least) the only one who could lose in 2024.

 I am a big picture guy. For my money, Donald Trump’s presidency was greatest not for the many policies he enacted, but because of what he represented. I have the words to back it up; in the aftermath of the 2020 election I wrote that “Win Or Lose, Trump Saved America.” I still stand by every word. The movement Trump inspired – arguably one of the greatest conservative revivals in American history – was born of his justified hostility to the corporate media, unabashed love of country, and general fearlessness. He alerted us to the evils of a propagandist media and cocooned D.C ruling class. Jeb wasn’t going to defeat Hillary, let alone spill in the beans on a Bush-family gravy train.

It had to be Trump.

Indeed, the movement kickstarted by Trump is far larger than his fleeting presidency or of the man himself. I wonder if it needs to stay that way.

Setting aside the interview with Candace Owens the other week and the bizarre messaging around his vaccine program, I am struggling more and more with the prospect of a Donald Trump presidential campaign in 2024. Let me count the ways.

First of all, I think conservatives pride themselves on being, among other things, practical. Is it practical if Trump attempts a return to the White House? What is gained exactly by Trump being president, and not, say, Ron DeSantis, Rand Paul, or another liberty-oriented executive?

Like it or not, Trump’s style of politics turns people off. The same traits that catapulted him to his nomination and ultimate electoral victory in 2016 are, for better or worse, the same traits that likewise prevent otherwise sensible people from voting for him. In my immediate orbit, I can think of twelve people that cast a vote in 2016 that didn’t return in 2020. And that’s only a really immediate orbit; what does this translate to nationwide? Concerns of a rigged election are entirely legitimate, but so too is the fact that registered Republicans and center-right independents sat out the presidential contest. How much of his persona has been generated by the media and how much is a veritable inherent characteristic is moot. People have their minds made up one way or the other. It could very well be that enough people are fed up with Brandon being in the White House to vote for anyone wearing a red tie, so there is that.

The other big problem with Donald Trump as a politician, as opposed to a kingmaker, is that his ability to provide clear, concise, and meaningful rhetoric is a glaring weak spot. Yes, the confidence and the attack-first mentality play well in soundbites and make me proud to have a rare patriot in the White House, but played longer and those off-script soundbites start to sound erratic and uniformed. Donald Trump is a very savvy individual, but explaining complex and nuanced ideas is not one of his fortes. That’s not a dig, either. That’s just a reality. As the left continues its relentless encroachment on American values and ways of life, we need a leader who can identify, name, and provide a pinpointed solution to the problem. If the conservative movement wishes to attract new voters, it will have to appeal to a different voter wavelength. Can Trump do that?

 

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84 Comments
Francis Marion
Francis Marion
January 11, 2022 7:16 pm

Can’t even get past the first paragraph of this sort of thing anymore.

If 2020 doesn’t get fixed 2024 is fucked.

As for Joe my dog could beat him in an honest election and would do a lot better job running the country. There would be free kibbles in every dish and he’d hand out deer antler to every dog over the age of 12 months to keep their teeth in good shape.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
January 11, 2022 7:18 pm

Trump needs to continue his blustering and drawing the fire of the dem establishment, media and big tech. Just before Christmas 2023, he needs to announce he is not running and put his support behind another person. He should stay on the campaign trail, as nobody else can draw the crowds and excite them like the showman extraordinaire.

bucknp
bucknp
  TN Patriot
January 12, 2022 9:05 am

His head may explode before then.

i forget
i forget
January 11, 2022 7:20 pm

To make America somewhat more tolerable again trump – & all like him (so many!) – needs to kill himself. Begin holding your breath…now.

(Because neither of those things, maga or suicide, is a trump – or the rest – need.)

Ichabod Crane is pretty sure he saw a head(less rider & out came a)line & so he wrote it down.

Nothing’s unmitigated: even Gutenberg ain’t all zer goot.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  i forget
January 12, 2022 9:51 am

Trump? Voting? Please.

Did you all learn nothing from the last election? What changes have been made to make elections fair? Nothing. Still the same machines and paper ballots and illegals and bent democrats running the game and while those entities are in place only a fool would bother to even think about voting. How many fingers you all gonna keep pulling?

Kerry
Kerry
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2022 12:55 pm

If voting mattered, they would not allow it. Mark Twain…

i forget
i forget
  i forget
January 12, 2022 7:03 pm

Yeah youse two posters. Voting in political elections is stupid, not to mention, more importantly, trespassive.

But voting in blog comment sections is genius, rendered all the way updown to clicks (grunts having been evolved away).

brian
brian
January 11, 2022 7:28 pm

I’ll stand by my prognostication that his ego simply cannot allow him to not run.

The shine is off Trump and realistically, if he was smart, he’d do as TN stated and back a real candidate… Should Trump not run… I think it would be a contest between cruz and Desantas. And personally, cruz is a career dirtball chameleon, not one I’d trust in anything.

As FM said… if 2020 doesn’t get fixed it ain’t gonna matter none…

AJ
AJ
  brian
January 11, 2022 8:40 pm

Cruz not Constitutionally qualified, if anyone cares but I wouldn’t vote for him if he was

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  AJ
January 11, 2022 9:15 pm

I wouldn’t vote for him in the primary because he’s not a natural born citizen. In the general I would. At that point you can’t get hung up on the constitution.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
  Iska Waran
January 12, 2022 9:44 am

Cruz is tied to the elite, just check who he ‘s married to, and he’s phoney as a $3 bill.

DeSantis might run, but Drumph will probably try to derail that by saying DeSantis should be his VP. Remember, Drumph was a life-long Dem and Clinton supporter before he buffed up his acting chops and started playing a Rino on TV

bucknp
bucknp
  The Duke of New York
January 12, 2022 12:53 pm

Exactly. I suppose people don’t read political candidates bios, their backgrounds etc. I could never bring myself to support anyone that ran in circles with the Clintons no matter how long ago and its not been a long time. The Clintons were supposed to be public enemy #1 as far as republicOns were concerned. Fast forward, republicOns supported a con and Clinton elbow rubber in 2016, 2020?

Cruz, yeah , I could not get past who his wife worked for , Goldman Sachs, so actually I did not vote in the republicOn primaries 2016 ( nor 2020). Then there is Steve Mnuchin, former Goldman crony who becomes sec of treasury under Donnie? Oh Donnie, Steve is part of the swap. Pull your head out then go back from where YOU came.

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  AJ
January 12, 2022 12:48 am

I voted for him in the 2016 primary, but no way now. He should have taken Trump’s offer of SCOTUS appointment.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  AJ
January 12, 2022 6:15 am

Didn’t stop Obama, or Harris…

Dirtperson Steve ->soon to be Arizona Bay
Dirtperson Steve ->soon to be Arizona Bay
  brian
January 11, 2022 9:47 pm

Cruz blew it when he cozied up to the Establishment last week.

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  brian
January 12, 2022 12:47 am

Who ya got that’s the ‘real’ candidate? Don’t say DeSantis.. Mike Pompeo is out there and although he won’t yet admit or announce it, he’s all over GETTR making appearances and statements just like a politician positioning for a run.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Longest John Silvers
January 12, 2022 1:23 am

He also dropped about 90 pounds.

brian
brian
  Iska Waran
January 12, 2022 9:57 am

Grooming and putting on the shine…

bucknp
bucknp
  Longest John Silvers
January 12, 2022 9:08 am

MIGA

clbrto
clbrto
January 11, 2022 7:36 pm

I’m a big picture guy, too.

Our elections are a farcical joke, and DJT was in on the steal AND the plandemic. But yes, he is quite savvy. Got me to vote for him twice after not bothering for 30-some years. What was I thinking.

Thunder
Thunder
  clbrto
January 12, 2022 3:21 am

To admit your wrong will always create a New Beginning.
Me too, Now I turn off off all Media and use my eyes.
I have never been happier or as Intelligent (of a low base admitted above)

PorkChopSandwiches
PorkChopSandwiches
January 11, 2022 8:15 pm

there is no way on Earth TPTB will allow that man to become POTUS again. doesn’t matter who he runs with, but hypothetically if he chose DeSantis as a running mate and they legitimately received 85 million votes, Joe/Kamala/whoever would somehow receive 100 million to claim to the “popular vote” to satiate the low info idiots and at the same time carry enough/all the right states to get the electoral college vote. whatever #s the communists need, they will get. no one reading these words will ever see anything resembling a conservative pro-American minded POTUS again.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  PorkChopSandwiches
January 11, 2022 9:38 pm

DeSantis isn’t gonna be anybody’s 2nd fiddle.

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  Two if by sea.
January 12, 2022 12:49 am

He’s my second choice for now. Maybe third.

BL
BL
January 11, 2022 8:32 pm

I am in favor of all actor puppets sitting out any and all future elections and unless drastic changes happen, I STILL WOULDN’T VOTE. That in a nutshell is how completely disgusted and mistrusting I am of .gov and anything to do with it. If you can’t trust them not to kill you…..what difference does it make? Seriously……

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
January 12, 2022 9:14 am

I only cast votes for those outside the box so in any given election that may be only 0ne vote if at all. Kills me the people that vote straight republiCon or demontoad for that matter then in the case of the “conservative” republicOns these folks apply for every government handout known to man. DISGUSTING!!!!!

motley
motley
January 11, 2022 8:54 pm

Start watching BEST EVIDENCE videos. You will soon find out … none of this matters. We have been played. Yes. I know. It will hurt to admit it. But it is the truth. BEST EVIDENCE.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  motley
January 11, 2022 9:53 pm

links?

motley
motley
  ILuvCO2
January 11, 2022 10:15 pm

I watched this one today … there are perhaps 20 or so ….

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  ILuvCO2
January 12, 2022 12:52 am

It’s You Tube. Just type that in and the channel will be right there.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 11, 2022 9:17 pm

“Speak softly and carry a big stick.” TR

Trump spoke loudly and got very little done.

motley
motley
  Iska Waran
January 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Not his fault. In the grand scheme of things, he was just a grocery clerk.

BL
BL
  Iska Waran
January 11, 2022 10:19 pm

Iska- Where is Stucky? I hope the boy isn’t down with Covid/Omicron/Flu. I hope Mama Stucky is well also.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  BL
January 12, 2022 1:25 am

Good question. He seemed sensitive lately when people didn’t like his jokes. I like his jokes. Besides, fuck people. I could use a good raccoon yarn right about now.

bucknp
bucknp
  Iska Waran
January 13, 2022 1:24 pm

I mostly read the Bible and yes I’m a wretch like every man/woman that now lives or has lived on earth except, lol, tRump. His sins are not “that bad”. smh

I am reading a comical book titled The Front Bench Regulars , Wit and Wisdom from Back Home in the Hills by Larry Dablemont. It’s about the tales and such that occurred in an old time pool hall the Dablemonts owned in the 50’s and 60’s.

Mentioning a racoon yarn, perhaps not related , the book has chapters such as THE WHUPPED GOBBLER, (“Ol’ Bill didn’t seem all that impressed with the return of wild turkeys to the Ozarks”), THE SQUARL DOG, THE POSSUM IN A BUCKET, POOL AND POLITICS. Entertaining and a break from all the gloom , doom and corruption we live with.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Iska Waran
January 11, 2022 11:54 pm

All hat no cattle and a Trojan Horse.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
January 11, 2022 10:19 pm

America needs a new direction, not a rehash of an old direction.

BL
BL
  MrLiberty
January 11, 2022 10:23 pm

Liberty – They will keep this scam going as long as people keep playing.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
January 12, 2022 9:21 am

Yep and both republicOns and demontoads continue the march to the beat of the drums invading every country in the world then telling the dumbed down US populous its justifiable as we are “defending freedom”. Wrap an intervention into affairs of other countries in the flag and call it “defending freedom”.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  bucknp
January 12, 2022 4:19 pm

Fighting each other instead of the enemy. And the elite laugh and have another no mask champagne party on our dime. Does the word stupid ring a bell?

Thunder
Thunder
  MrLiberty
January 12, 2022 3:24 am

The whole World needs a bowel cleanse and time to slowly flush the turds, made yesterday, away

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 11, 2022 10:22 pm

While I understood their frustration, I still used to be critical of libertarians who didn’t vote. I considered that even the worst Republican was preferable to any Democrat. The pandemic opened my eyes. I don’t trust DeSantis. He was promoting vaccines. Rand Paul repeatedly skewered Fauci then let him go. Some mentioned they’d vote for Cruz. During the 2016 primary Cruz played dirty tricks against Trump, then when Trump retaliated, people blamed him. Pence, the boy scout and his phony wife so horrified at Trump’s pu**y recording are both pedophiles. It’s all theater focused on getting elected or re-elected. These politicians are all corrupt and are either Godless satanic globalists themselves or controlled by them. The goal should be to bring down the cabal while simultaneously working to create a new parallel society. You can no longer put your faith into politicians.

brian
brian
  Anonymous
January 11, 2022 10:40 pm

These politicians are all corrupt…

You can no longer put your faith into politicians.

Corrupt politicals… yes they are… all of them.

No longer??? You should never have put your faith into politicians.
FIFY…

Balbinus
Balbinus
  brian
January 12, 2022 4:22 pm

A+ Brian!

flash
flash
  Anonymous
January 12, 2022 5:36 am

In order to serve the Beast , you haven’t to be one with the Beast System.
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bucknp
bucknp
  flash
January 12, 2022 9:27 am

Good one!!! Guess I should stop for now, the Mossad will be creeping around, sneaking around looking to cut my throat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
January 12, 2022 9:27 am

Theatrics, done with the long-standing hope of rebuilding a Temple. That one will get leveled, too.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  Anonymous
January 12, 2022 4:24 pm

2 more to go. Tribulation temple and the millenial temple.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  Anonymous
January 12, 2022 4:21 pm

Yea! Someone who understands what is going on!

bucknp
bucknp
  Anonymous
January 12, 2022 10:19 pm

Pence and wife are pedophiles or Pence and wife and tRump and…the Clintons and Epstein and…are pedophiles.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
January 11, 2022 11:39 pm

My advice for Pres Trump is to start apologizing for the vaccines, not try to take credit for them. They’re a loser. You knew it but couldn’t say anything because it was your only play. Better start blaming Fauci and Birx.

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  WestcoastDeplorable
January 12, 2022 12:54 am

I hear an echo. I’ve been saying that for over a year.

centinel
centinel
January 11, 2022 11:43 pm

Like him or hate him, you know what you’re getting with Trump. I don’t know anything about Desantis and I don’t know that many others do either.

Longest John Silvers
Longest John Silvers
  centinel
January 12, 2022 12:56 am

I do know DeSantis is a politician. That may not be a bad thing, but it says a lot to me. I like Noem better, even though she had that letdown about the NCAA, because she came into it due to her dad getting screwed. There may be others not yet in the picture. But until Trump says he’s not running, he’s got my vote. I don’t care about the Trump hate on here. He may be a lot of things not preferable to people, but look what he managed with the obstacles in his path.

Guest
Guest
  Longest John Silvers
January 12, 2022 9:46 am

I was listening to Catherine Austin Fitts interview and when asked something about Desantis she said, yes the mob is more local and doesn’t like what’s going on.
Then they went on to something else.

flash
flash
  centinel
January 12, 2022 5:39 am

Yep, we know whta we’re getting.

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bucknp
bucknp
  centinel
January 12, 2022 9:33 am

With tRump what one gets is MIGA with the clown show that made up his administration and his false prophet so called religious advisors. That group of false prophets is enough to gag a maggot. And maggots is what one gets.

brian
brian
  centinel
January 12, 2022 12:33 pm

Look at his track record… huge differences between him and trump.

Is Desantis perfect?? Not by any stretch but IF you were to choose between them then actions matter.

overthecliff
overthecliff
January 11, 2022 11:50 pm

No politician or party of politicians will save tthis country. That possibility is long gone. It’s all over but the shooting. Each one teach one. Education is the answer.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  overthecliff
January 12, 2022 8:59 am

Exactly.
We need to contemplate this for a moment: five individual men, five Jews, collectively own more than $500 billion. When we then consider the total wealth of the six million or so American Jews, it is quite easy to reach $50 trillion, or more.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
By Thomas Dalton.

Who’s our Daddy.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
January 12, 2022 9:04 am

Until we deal with the head of the hydra nothing will happen.

https://www.unz.com/article/the-holocaust-of-six-million-jews-in-world-war-i/

Balbinus
Balbinus
  overthecliff
January 12, 2022 4:28 pm

Politicians will not solve our problem because they are the problem

Thunder
Thunder
January 12, 2022 3:16 am

No No No No No! Joe Biden will demand we all make America great again or else you will lose you Job.
Now Get Jabbed so not so many people will die Laughing at me

Thunder
Thunder
January 12, 2022 3:42 am

Where is Camelot, I know he was a catholic and a Democrat but I miss the trust and clear non revokable thought.
OK …Women weaknesses and His families history aside, I know that….. come the Time cometh the MAN (so you can take a flying leap into Hell, Hillary you Hag of Hell and take your trained seals with you, you deplorable witch)

Old School Counselor
Old School Counselor
January 12, 2022 5:58 am

Yes, he inspired a movement, but any populist nationalist could do that. I agree with you he should not run, and we MUST have a non-vax critical thinker in that role. White Nationalists have had it with Trump because he let us down bigly. He cow tows to the usual anti-white “diversity” interests. He sucks up to the people about whom we are not allowed to criticize, and that list is large. We need a stalwart pro-white Christian man from real America, not Manhattan.

bucknp
bucknp
  Old School Counselor
January 12, 2022 9:38 am

What I ask people in Texas how can you cast a vote for ANYONE from New York?

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 12, 2022 8:10 am

Trump would be the perfect Speaker of the House. He is not ideologically consistent enough to become President. DeSantis would not have been snookered by Fauci and the deep-state cabal that launched the Coronascam.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  Anonymous
January 12, 2022 4:32 pm

Desantis is a vaccine man.

brian
brian
  Balbinus
January 12, 2022 8:15 pm

He’s a free choice, anti lock down too. no masking, no passports either…

bucknp
bucknp
January 12, 2022 9:03 am

For certain I’m not spending the next three years wondering if this tRump clown is going to run. tRump, go away. Go back from where YOU came and take Jared and Ivanka with you.

Primary state and local elections coming up in Texas in March. Should I make a signs indicating “Another Rigged Election” and place them near voting places? Yes. What kills me is the hypocrisy. Everyone knows whoever the “loser
is in an election they ALWAYS say the election is rigged. Sad. Speaking with a voting place monitor person the lady told me “Oh , our elections are not rigged”. smh, utter hypocrisy and disgusting.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  bucknp
January 12, 2022 4:35 pm

Certainly no guarantee there will be an election in 2024. The left definitely has plans to have this wrapped up and delivered before then.

bucknp
bucknp
January 12, 2022 9:47 am

I laugh about the fact since BiteMe stole the election the DOW has closed at record levels what, 4,5, 6 times? I don’t read tRump touting the DOW now. I mean tRump was the greatest there ever was when it came to record DOWs. What’s up with this?

Yahsure
Yahsure
January 12, 2022 10:01 am

The desire to run for office and then having to suck up to everyone to get elected. Disqualifies anyone who isn’t a psycho of some sort. Maybe having a blank cardboard cutout of a person covered in beliefs and plans should be run and if the cutout wins. Pick a carpenter who owns his own successful business to fill in as the President.
Trump made so many mistakes and from the way he already talks he will be too old come election time. Rand Paul would be my choice. or not voting at all since in the middle of a giant collapse whoever is in office I think will become the representative of the elite and a puppet for the reset.

brian
brian
  Yahsure
January 12, 2022 12:38 pm

The trouble is career politicals… There should be term limits for every position, bureaucrats as well.

Rand Paul, trey goudy, jim jordan, ted cruz… all probably nice guys but they all have some things in common. Lots of hand waving, feigned outrage, threats of ‘investigations’ and followed quickly by a trainload of nothing.

Well maybe some more bills, rules and laws further restricting your rights.

Kerry
Kerry
  brian
January 12, 2022 1:02 pm

The trouble is Government. Govern = Control , Ment = Mind Hopefully some can put 2+2 together…

MMinWA
MMinWA
  brian
January 12, 2022 3:56 pm

Especially Captain Obvious(Jordan)

bucknp
bucknp
  brian
January 12, 2022 10:45 pm

Mentioning term limits, I still laugh when discussing the subject with someone that says yea that needs to be done. Ask about their Joe Blow rep in office for over 20 years and it’s “Oh no. We need to keep him”. smh

Kerry
Kerry
January 12, 2022 12:54 pm

Still with the “election” BS…

RiNS
RiNS
January 12, 2022 2:27 pm

He needs to sit it out because he was in charge of fucking it up last time.

Balbinus
Balbinus
January 12, 2022 4:08 pm

Question! Please Google Ivanka Trump/ Klaus Schwab. Click on the the daily mail. uk article. What do you see? Answered any questions I had. You decide what the pictures mean to you. The left is well organized and just as conniving and evil as the Devi himself.

BL
BL
  Balbinus
January 12, 2022 4:33 pm

balb- I have personally posted volumes on Ivanka Trump connections, her husband Mr.666, in short the whole fandamnly. To which I was downed to the depths of hell, maybe things are different now that the bastards are out to kill all of us. How people missed Ivanka’s mother and father’s connection to mafia IDK. This is a global cabal, they all give each other BJs and we are nothing more than fodder.

PS- Please give up the left/right, red/blue, DEM/REP indoctrination….please.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
January 12, 2022 11:09 pm

tRump worshipers will never believe that mafia connection. And agreed on the left–right paradigm and all. It’s getting beyond OLD! They all dance to the same fiddler only try to blow smoke up everyone’s ***.

bucknp
bucknp
  Balbinus
January 12, 2022 10:56 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7925269/Ivanka-Trump-appears-high-spirits-World-Economic-Forums-final-day-Davos.html

The guy in the head wrap seems out of place but then I thought the glowing orb Trump touched in Saudi Arabia was out of place if not flat out weird.