Jordan Peterson: Enemy of the State

Guest Post by Jeffrey A. Tucker

Jordan Peterson

 

The famed psychologist and scholar, and global media personality, Jordan Peterson is being told that he must report to the Ontario College of Psychologists for re-education or else lose his license to practice. He is challenging the order in court, for whatever that’s worth.

No question that this follows his aggressive questioning of the whole of the Covidian agenda, including mass forced vaccination of the population.

It’s hardly the first time he has gotten in trouble with the powers that be. His initial fame came from his brave refusal to acquiesce to the “preferred pronoun” movement in Canada that came before lockdowns. That he is now ensnared in the machinery of the biomedical security state is predictable; this is today’s means by which regime enemies are punished and silenced.

It so happens that I heard Jordan speak in Budapest only months before the lockdowns that coincided with his own grave problem that he encountered with prescription medicine: as with many he was misled about what he believed was a simple medication. The timing was a tragedy because it took him out of the space of public intellectual life right when we needed him most: during the early months of lockdowns.

His voice went silent during these times. It was heartbreaking. The very small resistance continued despite his incapacitation. Once he got better, he gradually became aware of what had taken place and then became ferocious, as any thinking person must. Thus his current issues with the authorities.

Looking back at this date, it seems almost like he saw what was coming. In those months before lockdowns, I wrote the following report on what I saw in Budapest.

* * * * *

Almost from the first words of his outdoor lecture in Budapest, Hungary, held in the courtyard of the St. Stephen’s Basilica, Jordan Peterson’s eyes teared up and his voice cracked with emotion. Not just once. It happened repeatedly. His eyes never entirely dried. The audience could see it all because of the cameras and the huge monitors that made him some 25 times life-size, which is pretty apropos to his status as an intellectual in this part of the world. Indeed, in most parts of the world.

Tonight was interesting, however, because his tears were clearly not performative in any sense. It was a show of extreme vulnerability that he surely hoped that he would not show. He strikes me as a deeply emotional person – a temperamental cryer – who has probably practiced a lifetime to stop this.

It didn’t work this time. Before long, during his impassioned presentation on behalf of the dignity of every individual and the responsibility of living a life of truth, audience members too were tearing up in the midst of the awesome silence that fell over this massive crowd during the hour-long presentation.

He never quite got around to explaining his emotion. I think I can, however. So here is my go at it.

The first issue had to do with his introduction in this hugely dramatic space, which was filled with flares and fanfare and oceans of love from those who gathered, not just people with tickets (which were hard to get) but an equal number behind the barricades, extending as far back as one could see. It was impossible not to view this as a show of incredible affection for the man, his work, his influence, his personal courage, and his message. The crowds and the anticipation were overwhelming.

Now, if you are Peterson, you would have to contrast this scene with the raging nonsense you will read about yourself in the mainstream press, to say nothing of the academic literature along with various left-wing hit sites out there who routinely twist anyone’s words to confirm their wild narratives. His every word is picked apart, his footnotes followed, his analogies deconstructed in an unending game of gotcha in order to put him into some kind of predefined political category for easy dismissal.

For the easily led, he is a target. For the witch hunters in media and academia, he is a convenient scapegoat. Within the academy, he is the object of unrelenting envy. In the face of all this, including campus protests and media hectoring, he has been steadfast and brave, refusing to be intimidated and instead using the attention to get his message out there. To cut through all this nonsense, and like and appreciate him in any case, already marks you as being in possession of a discerning mind, a rebel against conventional wisdom. Apparently, there is no shortage of such rebels.

The crowds – I don’t have an estimate but there were 20,000 people at the Brain Bar event at which he was a main draw – might have seemed to him as a tribute to the resiliency of the human spirit. That people were there at all, seeking not a confirmation of political bias but rather to gain a greater sense of personal purpose, shows that the powerful in this world cannot finally rule the day.

He is just one man with a message against the world’s most powerful voices in media, academia, and government – and yet through ideas alone, beginning as nothing but one man in a classroom, he has become the world’s most influential public intellectual.

As for his emotion this night, Jordan probably felt a deep sense of gratitude for being the recipient of this affection and for his place in inspiring people to become intellectual dissidents. That is enough to cause tears of gratitude.

There is far more that overwhelms you about being in this remarkable and indescribably beautiful city. The history is deep and rich and present everywhere you look. There is drama within eyesight of anywhere you stand. The Danube river and bridges, the castles, the stunning Parliament building, the churches and universities, all of it, are not dusty old monuments but currently in use amidst a teeming commercial life that is equal parts old and new.

The whole city also feels extremely young, similarly today to what it might have been like in the late 19th century, in the last years of the Belle Époque when Budapest’s cultural and commercial life rivaled Vienna’s. It’s a magical place, as delightful to visit as anywhere on the planet, in my view.

But what you see is only on the surface. The scars of this city are extremely deep, having been put through astonishing traumas of totalitarianism of the left and right, the bombings, the terror and cruelty and poverty – the experience is not that far back in history. It was tyrannized by Soviet occupation twice, first after World War I and then following World War II, between which it experienced Nazi occupation and devastating Allied bombing that destroyed its infrastructure (all of which has since been rebuilt).

And yet you can walk the city and not see this deep suffering overtly. The city, which wears this grim past lightly, is a tribute to the survival of hope in the face of overwhelming forces that sought to destroy it. The city lives. It thrives. It dreams anew.

In addition to being a psychologist, Peterson is also a historian of totalitarianism. There are ways to read history as a dry reportage of events. That is not how he reads history. Good historians recount events. Great historians tell stories as if they lived them. Peterson is next level: he has sought the inner philosophical and psychological turmoil that shape history through the moral choices of both the oppressed and oppressors. He seeks to understand the inner horror from the point of view of human nature.

As he exclaimed in a slightly terrifying moment, he has read about the history of Hungary and totalitarianism “not as a victim, not as a hero, but as a perpetrator.” What he means is that we must come to terms with evil not just as something external to ourselves but as a force deep within the human personality itself – not excluding our own personalities. What character traits do we need to acquire, what values do we need to adopt, that can prepare us to resist when evil invites our participation in violence and terror? He never stops reminding us what we are capable of doing both good and evil, and urges that we steel ourselves to live good lives even when it is not in our political and economic interests to do so.

So here we were in St Stephen’s square outside the great Basilica, packed with young people there to hear his message, in this remarkable city, a tribute to the resiliency of the human personality in the presence of one hundred years of oppression and violence. And yet there we were in this year, an age of hope, everyone given yet another chance to get it right, to live well, to treat others with dignity, to build peace and prosperity yet again.

The look on his face, and tears in his eyes, seem to suggest to himself and others: we can do this. We will not give in to evil. We can be strong. We can learn, build, and achieve. Against all odds, he has emerged as a leading voice to add to the possibility of success in our times.

I’ve heard Peterson live before and, like you, watched many of his speeches and interviews on youtube. I can tell you, I’ve never heard anything like what he said on this evening. It was for the ages.

The latter part of his presentation was lighter, with some very charming “one-minute therapy” sessions on stage with audience members that variously turned profound once again. And here is what is amazing: you discover that the real core of Peterson is not his political outlook or his role as a cultural pundit, historian, or philosopher but his professional training as a psychotherapist, just one man there to help one individual find a way forward through the terrifying struggles of life. Through technology, he finds himself in the blessed role of serving millions of willing readers and listeners.

Even now he can’t possibly know the full impact of his influence. I suspect, for example, that he is unaware of the crucial role he played in American political life when only two years ago, young men were being drawn to the invidious politics of the so-called Alt-right as an alternative to the false moralism of the social-justice left. They were drawn to his brave stances against speech controls, but he knew better than to side with any mob on either side of the extremes. He schooled even his new fans in the evils of every brand of identity politics – and the moral urgency of universal human dignity – and justly earned the wrath of alt-right leadership. Thus did he contribute to saving a generation from perdition in extremely volatile times. For this, he deserves the gratitude of every genuine liberal, but, so far as I know, he has never been publicly credited for this achievement.

“Ego Sum Via Veritas et Vita,” read the sign above the entrance to the Basilica. I am the way, the truth, and the life. The sign reminds us of the universal hunger to find direction, purpose, meaning, and redemption in the midst of the chaos and anomy of the historical narrative.

Peterson is not a religious man but he respects its ethos and contribution. This night he became a preacher of goodness, of civility, of moral strength in the face of struggle. The poetry of it all, and the promise that goodness and decency can prevail, was manifest in the crowds and the city right here, this night, in Budapest. It combined to inspire him to find the fullness of his voice.

And this is why he cried tears of joy.

* * * *

Soon after this presentation, Peterson was in the hospital in recovery at the same time the world of freedom and rights fell apart. He woke to a different world. He began to fight again. And here we are, exactly as he predicted: he is the enemy of the state. He has spent his entire professional career not only as a scholar and therapist – really a genius – but also as a resistor and a bringer of light in dark times.

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64 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
January 10, 2023 1:04 pm

I don’t know much about Peterson but he’s loved and hated by the right people. I hear he’s under investigation by that (real-life) Bastard: Fidel Trudeau. Apparently, you need a license to ply his trade in Canada and they’re threatening to pull it. As popular and, likely rich, Peterson is it’s my guess he can tell the government to shove their license up their asses.

brian
brian
  CCRider
January 10, 2023 1:14 pm

They are doing the same here in british communista with ALL medical persons and their work spaces. Masking is still enforced at all deemed medical facilities. Be they optometrists, dentist, shrinks, MDs, all of them. The certifying boards are being consolidated and are told they will have to enforce the govts edicts. hhmmm Just like commiefornia.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  brian
January 10, 2023 5:11 pm

Mass non compliance could end it all. People are spineless.

C.A.L.
C.A.L.
  Anonymous
January 10, 2023 5:34 pm

It would just take a big fuck you from all involved. What happens when it is ALL shut down.
Sigh. I know
I know. I’m just dreaming…

i forget
i forget
  Anonymous
January 11, 2023 3:38 pm

The mass is the spine. Shriveled, dried by-their-fruits-know ‘em masters sit atop that blaster.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 10, 2023 2:06 pm

So? How many patients does he currently treat? Zero.

Peterson is clearly a straw man.

1) He is unwell mentally.

https://tinyurl.com/yc27kxe5

2) He is a liar. Absolutely shameless and unrepentant when confronted.

3) He is pharmacologically impaired.

4) Not one thing he has said, nor any position he has taken is even remotely a threat to The Narrative.

5) He is an avid collector of Soviet memorabilia.

6) He still has full access to all social media.

7) He has become wealthy off the backs of desperate young men looking for a father figure.

8) He took the clot shot.

While I understand the desire to have an intellectual sounding guy be able to stand his ground against the insanity of the pronoun police, that’s hardly a revolutionary stance. He’s as radical as Jimmy Kimmel. They have placed him in a position to gatekeep a significant portion of the adult male population that don’t actually investigate him on a deeper level than a YouTube clip.

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Clean your room, Jordan.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  hardscrabble farmer
January 10, 2023 2:31 pm

^^^ Yep. Let’s see how many downvotes you get for that. My guess is not many since you are the GREAT HSF.

But, whenever *I’ve* talked smack about this guy, well let’s just say people got triggered.

Undeniable
Undeniable
  Abigail Adams
January 10, 2023 2:42 pm

Clean your room, Jordan.

I see what you did there.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Abigail Adams
January 12, 2023 7:42 am

It’s not a competition. And you should ignore votes up or down, that’s not how you should form your opinions.

He came out of the gate strong, and then he tripped. It happens. Not everyone can handle celebrity and wealth. Both are corrupting influences.

Personally I hope he has a redemption arc.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  hardscrabble farmer
January 10, 2023 4:16 pm

I’ve yet to see anything he’s said that I disagree with.

HSF, do you think Jordan has done anything good? More good or more bad?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
January 10, 2023 6:20 pm

He is a kippa licker.

Can Jordan Peterson Sink Any Lower?

The Jews Surrounding Jordan Peterson

m
m
  Glock-N-Load
January 11, 2023 3:50 am

I disagree with a lot of what JBP said recently. See an example here.

But just because he now fell for Jewish lies doesn’t make everything else he did and said before malevolent or wrong.

goat
goat
  m
January 11, 2023 4:14 am

Jewish lies with a paycheck?

m
m
  goat
January 11, 2023 4:19 am

Provide us more than correlation “proof” that JBP can be bought.

goat
goat
  m
January 11, 2023 4:30 am

Generally when somebody takes a paycheck and gratuities, that means you have been bought. That would seem to be the very definition of bought. Though maybe I’m missing something, it is early and I just rolled out.

m
m
  goat
January 11, 2023 5:33 am

You might be missing that not just complete hermits can be moral.

goat
goat
  m
January 12, 2023 9:05 pm

Maybe not, but it helps. What makes you think that I’m a hermit? I prefer the term recluse.

BL
BL
  Glock-N-Load
January 11, 2023 3:59 pm

The last interview I saw with Jordan P. he started talking about how people are dying around the world and he cried, literally cried for humanity. That’s more than Donnie Chump or anyone in our government has done. The last time I saw real human emotion like that it was the black mayor in New Orleans breaking down after hurricane Katrina and the government was 5 days and no no help , dead people on the streets.

I’ve ragged Peterson in the past, I’m not a big fan but he came out strong about the horror in the Netherlands with the farmers and vaccine deaths so he can’t be all bad….. OR CRAZY.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  hardscrabble farmer
January 10, 2023 6:07 pm

Even if he was once a good guy, he definitely lost the plot. He wants Twitter to disallow anonymous accounts. That’s bullshit. The best accounts are anonymous – HarmlessYardDog, WallStreetSilv, etc. Besides, what if some whistleblower wants to use Twitter? They’re supposed to be outed and lose their jobs, etc.? Get doxxed by some violent lesbian? Fuck that.

goat
goat
  Iska Waran
January 10, 2023 6:18 pm

Pretty sure I heard him say that he wanted a completely verifiable internet. That is you must be accredited to even use it. That is certainly whacked, if so, no doubt about it.

m
m
  goat
January 11, 2023 3:51 am

You mean you heard him once say something wrong?
That’s bad, really bad.

goat
goat
  m
January 11, 2023 3:59 am

Yes, keep in mind I have generally defended him in the past. But I think most will agree that that is a pretty big control freak position to take, that fits right in with the police state’s wet dreams they have been wishing for for some time.

m
m
  goat
January 11, 2023 4:15 am

You’re missing the point:
Did he repeat it again, later? Maybe even after someone pointed out to him the downside of his suggested approach?

And even if he did and does, do you believe yourself to be fully red-pilled, in all areas?

JBP once, I believe it was in a university lecture available on YT, stated that if 10% of people stop paying taxes then society collapses.
Which in itself is probably true, but he said it as if it were an unequivocally bad thing [i.e. we MUST have government and taxation at gunpoint, to get a functioning society.]
Which is fucking stupid, because everything needs a balance of powers to have a better chance of defending itself from being taken over by one side for selfish or malevolent reasons. JBP somehow completely missed that point there.

goat
goat
  m
January 11, 2023 4:45 am

It would be kinda hard to hear him repeat it, it was in one of his more recent interview sessions. I’m certainly not going to listen / watch what is mainly Jordan drolling on hanging on his every word like some sort of acolyte till he repeats it, unless it is some topic that interest me.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 11, 2023 8:35 am

Maybe it would be a lot easier for you to explain why you admire the guy.

I listed my reasons for not placing trust in him, now you can rebut them and show that my reasons are outweighed by your examples.

Go.

august
august
  hardscrabble farmer
January 11, 2023 1:34 pm

As other have noted, the best thing JP has going for him as a recommendation is that all the right people seem to hate him.

Having read/heard zero of JP’s words, I now bow out….

goat
goat
  august
January 11, 2023 1:54 pm

The jews seem to really like him though.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
January 10, 2023 6:33 pm

I remain anonymous here because of the violent lesbians.

Frankly they terrify me.

m
m
  hardscrabble farmer
January 11, 2023 3:44 am

That your best character assassination you can come up with?

“He is an avid collector of Soviet memorabilia.”
Dynamite all the museums!

“He still has full access to all social media.”
Oh, that’s why he got reinstated 11/18 on Twitter!

Implied: “he’s not perfect [enough]!”
Keep looking for a better acting human on Earth nowadays, who made a difference towards the better for so many people, then.

You gotta learn how to bullshit better…

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 11, 2023 8:43 am

You cherry picked two items, one of which was deliberately incomplete (social media accounts like YouTube, for example prominently feature him and he has not been demonetized)I provided a comprehensive list.

What if instead of Soviet memorabilia his study was plastered with Nazi era propaganda, would you be defending him? The Soviets were responsible for more deaths than the Nazis. But anyone with two eyeballs and heartbeat knows you wouldn’t survive for a nano second in the public sphere if the opposite were the case. People who find inspiration in the ideologies that were responsible for mass murder are not the kind you should look to for advice- in my opinion. YMMV.

I find you defense of JP to be below average for TBP, but I am always willing to listen.

Show your work.

m
m
  hardscrabble farmer
January 12, 2023 2:21 am

I find your arguments against JBP in general to be below freezing point, to say the least.

You probably never watched a university lecture of his on YT, where he shows his breadth of knowledge and balanced analysis, long before he was thrown into the public opinion ring.

Watch this one

and tell me where he is bullshitting, or cherry-picking.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 12, 2023 7:28 am

I wish you the best of luck.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
January 11, 2023 3:40 pm

Well, anybody who “treats patients” is less than zero. But straws, of a sort, are involved. Proboscis they’re called. And that’s for sucking insects for to treat themselves to “patients.” Mary Shelley was clearly no merely Dorothy – in straw, or any of her other alters.

1)

Are you treating “mental” patients via snapshots? (I like Szasz better than McMurphy in the whitehat role, & Nurse Ratched in the black. I could tell just by looking at her that Louise Fletcher was one crazy actress.)

Facial recog capabilities are really “progressing” so it is said.

Or is this more of that other, grandfathered, recogito ergo sum – “physiognomy?”

For some reason, speaking “soviet,” I’m flashing on that before/after snapshot of some Schrodinger cat next to/not next to Stalin.

A pic can be worth those thousand words, a pic of a face can launch a thousand ships, but there’s many a slipic twixt the cup & the lip.

Poe? Dunno. “Believe only half of what you see & nothing that you hear.” (Saw The Pale Blue Eye. Pretty good. Revenge, served correct temperature. Tho not completed. I think Godel & Schrodinger mighta/coulda been pals.)

“All the world’s a stage.” You know who. “I was surrounded by phonies…They were coming in the goddam window.” ~ Holden Caufield

“Performers,” no matter what they look like, are mentally unwell. But they are also the super-majority.

Cue that Twilight Outer Limit scene where the pig-faced doctors are un-bandaging the face of the young woman who wants to look super/model/majority, too – & yet another failure! She’s still pretty!

2)

Or, if you missed it: Back cover: “I’m a professional liar. I fool people, that’s what I do. I know all the tricks. But you don’t just have professional liars like me around you; amateur liars are everywhere. You yourself are a goddamn liar & have been since before you could speak. Lying is indispensable for civilization, progress in general, & for you personally, if you want to have friends, get a job, & get laid. *The Truth About Lies* covers the sociology, the psychology, the techniques, & even the wicked fun of lying. It’s important & fun to lie & be lied to, but it’s also important to know the truth. Read this book. You can trust me. I’m a Vegas magician. ~ Penn Jillette”

3)

Or phenomenologically impaired. The uses & misuses of solipsism.

I keep an almost full bottle of Glenmorangie on my desk. Such a lovely looking thing in itself, but a reminder, a memento mori, of better but dead-gone days when that uisge-beatha mode of consciousness-adjusting was more intimate than just gaze.

See the Cask of Amontillado angle? Immurement – great word.

4)

Nothing anybody has said or positioned is, has, or ever will be even remotely a threat to directors & scriptwriters instructions to actors ~ every bit of which is inside job (there absolutely ain’t nuthin’ “out there” ~ solipsism don’t kill, slopisism do).

Does that even needs be said?

Nair takes the hair off, in the scene where taking the hair off is called for (ah-ha! I knew it! A dopaminergicexpialidocious reader of the released-from-captivity-into-The-Hotel-California JFK files someday ..), & narrative glues it back on – as also called for.

5)

Memorabilia of terror means advocate? By ye collections ye shall be known?

I have every Lincoln penny.

I despise the memory of that sumbitch.

Am I adding, summing the bitch, or am I subtracting – & which is the correct operation (not to be confused with doc talk … I despise those sumbitches, also).

6)

So do I. But, cue sumbitches, they have no access to me.

And if “social” media in all its anti-socialness is about misdirection of bandwidth in a mass”market” ~ more cowbell! ~ that cannot get enough such direction maybe allowing a pressure-relief spiGOT for all the lowered-T-who-am-I-please-tell-me-what-to-do-puppymen out there is part/parcel.

“Clean your room” ain’t much, but not invalid, either. Like charity & physician-healing begins at home.

7)

Desperate housewives & young men in perpetual seep-seek of founding fathers ain’t new. Cue the “vanity” scene in NCFOM.

And neither is “capitalizing” on filling unfillable holes new – which is more often than not both sides of the “father” “son” figure/ground “divide.”

Symbiosis. Heads, tails, edge – one coin … typically a wooden nickel, or a Lincoln penny.

“The child is father of the man” : no matter how physiognomically perfect & animated the camo face & features be, underneath that the blank slaters are all blank stares … & checks … in the maille-mail-male (tora!tora!tora! – tiger!tiger!tiger! – stripes!stripes!stripes! ~ the bill murray version, & don’t forget the groundhog, either).

“When you comin’ home, Dad/son, I don’t know when, but we’ll get together then, you know we’ll have a good time then” ~ Harry Chapin, (Schrodinger’s) Cat’s In The Cradle (& sling … everybody sling along now!) .

“You Can’t Go Home Again” Thomas Wolfe (he of the anti-psychiatry anti-Piggy revelation that “every man is an island”) cuz the whole “same river twice” thing but really mostly more-so (I always wanted to add a Moroso dry-sump, cuz the corners are where everything is, never got around to it & then the season was memento mori past – wax on wax off Pat Mori•ta said – m&m’s melt in yer mouth, not in yer hands the candy commercial said …) because wherever you go there you are.

Just cuz you don’t wear an obvious conch shell don’t mean it ain’t there, don’t mean you don’t have the conch, don’t mean those conchlear implants aren’t sussurating peek-a-boo sea-sounds inside yer head.

You’re always already home. Everybody sling along:

8)

Well, one of the latest clot shots.

Maybe that’s the wolf’s clot/hing that broke the closet rail.

Whether or no, the direction of the shot is continuous & its clots all the way down.

Everybody’s got chests full of purple hearts.

All that matters is do you stop pining for pinning ceremonies before your heart behind your chest turns purple from the rage of assaults, & you pass into m&m-ness – or not.

And even after you know the DOS, your mouth is just about always in mixed company.

There ain’t such a thing as revo stance. Nor mouth-running, neither. How many words did that guy from one of your fave movies say? First Blood, then talk a little, maybe. ☻

Rage, rage against the dyin of the Daylight Solipsism Time … I clean my clock the light fantastic. I’ll count ya in (even in this snip, you can tell, well I can tell, that brunette, mmm …:

Thanks for triggering this workout. The Glenmorangie looks good right now. But it’s early. And way too late.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
January 11, 2023 4:08 pm

Wow, that was amazing. Nailed it.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
January 11, 2023 6:58 pm

Brats for dinner. Or, over for dinner. Pairs well with good kraut. That nails it – *sometimes.* ☻

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
January 11, 2023 7:19 pm

You are so creative & original…sometimes. 🙂

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
January 11, 2023 10:21 pm

Yes.

But you can handle it.

Plus you’re safely anonymous & far away in space, time, & probably at least one other dimension/vertex.

Plus not least, I already have a brat.

(I’m … bratman. Ha.)

& the kraut – that’s me.

Plus … it’s a compliment.

Plus … (reiterating) brats & kraut complement.

Which is complimentary without exertion; natural.

Everything on that plate just flirts without even trying.

“Sometimes” ssss•wistful mistakes are made around ‘you can’t win ‘em all ~ can’t opt for “always” instead of “sometimes” ~ but intuition’s formica counters with the marble slab creamery truth: the so-called losses, if done un-compartmentalized right, are by far more meaningful, & learning-laden than the so-called wins.

Competition isn’t for losers & them that compartmentalize say/do otherwise probably will not lose right when the time comes.

And the time always comes … sometimes…which is where I *would* opt for always, were I omnipotent, connecting the sowage & the reapage so that even the slowest pokes would register, & ring the register, by paying the price right away sooner rather than later or passing it on for others to pay.

The uses & misuses of solipsism.

Good thing the pluto’s playing at mastery of universes ain’t omnipotent, either.

I’d like to be here to hear the registers ring. That’ll be some music. And I have instruments, including a voice, to lend to that tune, too.

Solos, of course. Not a choirboy.

The music is breath & so breathes differently with every iteration. It’s alive. And harmony is no rigid thing.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
January 12, 2023 11:56 am

Bratman…funny. Some guys have all the luck. 😊

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
January 12, 2023 9:50 pm

Haven’t seen it, but have read-heard some lives that this art imitates (Leslie covers both genders, right?):

Everybody gets what they get, nobody gets it all, but too much luck is bad luck.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  i forget
January 12, 2023 9:16 am

https://tinyurl.com/yc27kxe5

Are you treating “mental” patients via snapshots?

Diagnosis not treatment.

Tell me he looks healthy in that photograph that he posted.

A very large part of our current problem rests on the premise that we should not judge a book by its cover. That is absurd. Book covers are designed to tell you what is inside, ditto physiognomy. All breeding of domesticated animals is predicated upon understanding this foundational truth. Human beings are domesticated animals, by definition.

Q.E.D.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
January 12, 2023 12:32 pm

If nothing else JP has a face I cannot trust.

I have been judging the “book by its cover” when it comes to peoples faces for decades. Have been wrong about a couple, but only a couple AFAICT. Probably ~50:1 accuracy in assessment.

When you look at someone and get that “skeeved out” feeling, listen to it.

Assess his words and accept what makes sense. But I would not entirely trust him. He seems skeevy.

But then it is always best to not “trust entirely” anyone anyway.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
January 12, 2023 2:10 pm

The first thing I thought about that photograph (a snapshot in time) was “not so bad … especially compared some snapshots of *me* in time.” Are you always, have you always been, the handsome devil you usually are?

I know its analogy-metaphor-simile smiles, I use those all day long, too. But I have a lot of books. Some of the covers are very much the worse for wear. Wouk’s Caine Mutiny is one I’m thinking of. My copy started making the rounds in the 50’s, long before I acquired it, & shows beaten & abused on the outside. The story inside remains the same anyway.

Book covers, in fact, are designed to hold, & protect, what’s inside. Covers are containers.

(Leave room, of course, for trash paperbacks, like the bodice-rippers showing a bare-chested steroidal pirate holding a swooning woman, etc.)

So that’s books.

People? Prejudged guilty, every one, with what nowadays is considered extreme prejudice, until proven otherwise & to my satisfaction. And even then, I know I might be wrong. Because I have been wrong.

But that’s my heuristic & I will ride it into the sunset. Yippie-ki-yay mother …s don’t let your babies grow up to be cowboys ~ Bruce Willis Willie Nelson

I’d rather play the cards close & tight. Because that’s poker. Max the up by min the down. Most cards are down. Most players are too. And the effort at reading/playing players is in the pages, no matter how cover material it appears to be to some.

(When it comes to “look at me” – performers, presenters – well, grist for my mill, entertainment, diversion, distraction, relaxation is the purpose/s those serve. Every now & then I’ll see a new face, playing a role, & look them up to see if any correlation might be between the role & the roller – & there almost never is. But even if it might appear that there might be, there’s no way for me to actually know … but what I do know is that the roller is in show-biz, & that is generally, almost universally, an indictment that sticks. And … showbiz is art imitating life, or most of life. Include here public figure Peterson, who I’m not defending per se … don’t know, can’t know, don’t care – do know he’s in showbiz, too, tho.)

As far as first impressions, however scaffolded, it might surprise you to know I don’t screen test well? lol … so another ingredient in my judge not not lest ye be judged gordion knot / rorschach ink blot.

Looks can be, very often are, deceiving. That’s a fact further, much further, & fuller of more things than are dreamt of in Horatio’s philosophy.

(This gal’s got looks. Her character, role, was a number, first time I saw her, in the House, M.D. series. She’s got way more looks than JP, who she has apparently recently lambasted. So two marks against: too pretty – that whole deforming baggage for so many – & an actress expounding “without” a script. Yay.

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But she triangulates. This guy didn’t look too good before (“rodential”), didn’t look too good after, but what would you say about the contents of his book?:

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Camo, mimicry, deceptions & deceit of almost infinite variety. The whole of nature does a lot of its running on just this “cunning” (in quotes because among so-called big-brained homo s it’s just short-sight stupid).

I can’t disagree with Penn Jillette’s blurb — even as I know that people who accept & embrace this as normal (because it is) & therefore “healthy” (because it very obviously isn’t) are just cowards, & full of shit – because they are. Go along get along get whatever you can get however you can get it all’s fair in love, & war, & love of that necessary war of all against all that flows/emerges out of that warped perspective … is stupid.

But as you write, & I have too, a lot beings that present with human bookcovers are domesticated. I refer to that lot as humanimal.

The individual people proof/argument is never complete. It’s the domain fauci to slap QED tail on that kited check. It is all process, beginningless, endless, case-by-case multiplied circumstances-by-circumstances.

(Except, uses of solipsism, the world, & its process, ends when I do.)

Heuristics are shortcuts & “short” is left out of “death by a thousand (insert “short” here) cuts” for a reason, on purpose. What gets hewed in the ristic is you, mostly.

(But I do like that Irishman’s Into the Mystic. Bonus points for his apparent stance on the cold bug that got irradiated & turned into Godzilla.)

I like flirting with you, too. ☻

PassingThru
PassingThru
  hardscrabble farmer
January 12, 2023 9:29 pm

Jordan Peterson has hypersensitivity reactions to most foods. Excepting red meat, which is almost all that he eats and therefor intakes insufficient calories. His daughter Mikhayla is the same and suffered from rheumatic diseases since early years, she has a TedX on that. Rheumatic diseases often come with psychological effects. That’s a clinical fact.

Then there are are those like MD Shawn Baker who chooses a carnivore diet. He is on gear and is not wasting, in fact is the deadlifting opposite.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  i forget
January 12, 2023 12:26 pm

Glenmorangie – Sherry Casked

Yum.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 10, 2023 2:58 pm

A Jordan Peterson quote sums up a great deal of what is victimizing him now : “If you think strong men are dangerous , wait till you see what weak men are capable of”!
His intellect frightens the left because he won’t tolerate their twists and turns to fabricate justifications for their lunacy !

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
January 10, 2023 5:44 pm

Hmm. Another personality that I will need to review in order to form a more reasoned opinion. Why do we have so many cult icons? I’ve spent the last 20 years deprogramming, but the sheer number of ‘people we are supposed to listen to’ is just staggering. Will expect to be disappointed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Visayas Outpost
January 11, 2023 1:46 am

Pay close attention to the diametrically opposed positions he holds regarding White collective pursuit of White group interests vs. Jewish collective pursuits of Jewish group interests.

PassingThru
PassingThru
  Anonymous
January 12, 2023 9:51 pm

Yep, I kost a lot of respect for Jordan when I saw that he buys into Jewish Supremacism. But still, he’s more good than bad overall.

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m
  Visayas Outpost
January 11, 2023 3:54 am

Watch an original [university] lecture series of his on YT (from 2015 or so), before he became a widely known person.
Then make up your opinion.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 12, 2023 7:02 am

Perhaps he was corrupted, compromised or simply just lost his way due to the sudden noteriety. I don’t know, I just see where he’s made a long series of bad decisions and for someone who is offering himself up as an authority figure, he strikes me as a poor choice.

Maybe there will be a redemption arc in his story, but for now he’s a fragile and unsettled man. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you.

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  hardscrabble farmer
January 14, 2023 12:01 pm

Maybe you can list the worst of his bad decisions here?
I only can come up with 2 (by commission) or maybe 4 (including 2 omissions), which is pretty freaking good for how much he made most of his life publicly available.

gadsen flag
gadsen flag
January 10, 2023 7:33 pm

my concern with the portion of his sermon i heard is he cautioned against the evil of man without the context of the recompense necessary as physical governance of the evil.

here is my prayer.

i will abide the weak and provide them solace.

For the evil that projects itself upon the world i shall be a ruthless son of a bitch.

amen.

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m
  gadsen flag
January 11, 2023 3:56 am

And you will know absolutely for sure what is evil and what not… how exactly?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 11, 2023 8:44 am

Conscience.

m
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  hardscrabble farmer
January 12, 2023 2:24 am

You mean a Christian needs no plan B (when it turns out his opinion/conscience was wrong)?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
January 12, 2023 6:58 am

Develop whatever plan works best for you. For me it’s conscience and it is 100% reliable. The only time I err is when I don’t listen to it.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  m
January 11, 2023 10:29 am

And you will know absolutely for sure what is evil and what not… how exactly?”

What on earth??? I think we found the root of your problem.

Read some Tolkien & C.S. Lewis. Intelligent men who will help you work this out…if it doesn’t come naturally for you.

(Maybe read the Bible too – lots of good examples)

Also, all governments are evil. Some would say a necessary evil.

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 11, 2023 10:57 am

Each and every man is his own government, unless he is a vegetable. Is it your contention man is evil?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
January 11, 2023 9:21 pm

Sorry, goat…I just saw that you responded to me. (on my phone all the comments line up so I can’t tell what was directed to me.)

Yes, I absolutely believe we all have an element of evil within us. Do you not?

“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either – but right through every human heart…even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains…an uprooted small corner of evil.”
~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 12, 2023 8:58 pm

Certainly we all have an element of evil in us. But does that make us evil? Even if we sometimes act on that evil or make a mistake, does that make us evil, or does it make us human? I’d argue what makes someone evil, is the consistent practice of evil on consistently evil thoughts, and not just some evil crossing one’s mind on occasion.

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 12, 2023 9:11 pm

BTW, I’m likely an INTP, which is why I asked if you were. Though I do vacillate at times towards INTJ. 🙂

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
January 11, 2023 4:43 pm

Necessity mothers invention. Then strangles it. Sometimes that’s autoerotic. Sometimes that’s Munchin Down the Haus’in. But in every case it is compulsive.

I didn’t fail. I found a 1000 ways not to light up a filament. But not even one way to burn down the cartelites, the monopolytes, the LED leaders, the filamentary figments of “power” generation & doling, & withholding.

(Maybe ol’ Edison was on the side of the angles?)

Gadsden flag
Gadsden flag
  m
January 11, 2023 9:09 pm

A great question. Natural law – mark passio YouTube is a good source of what should be essential teaching in educational institutions.

PassingThru
PassingThru
January 12, 2023 9:12 pm

“No question that this follows his aggressive questioning of the whole of the Covidian agenda”
All that factors in, but the proximate cause is his refusal to be forced into using the pronouns of the weirdos. In Trudeau’s Canada, that’s even a crime. Canada, aside from rural areas, is like a whole country that’s San Francisco.