By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com
Like most of the world, I have been considering the Israel / Gaza slaughter with fascination and a sense of dread. Did Israel allow the events of October 7, 2023 to happen? It appears so. Were the savage acts of Hamas sickening? It appears so. Have the ensuing actions of Israel in Gaza been devastating? Yes.
Have the reactions of the general public in nations around the world, and on the internet, become increasingly polarized? Definitely.
Geopolitical expert and former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter has predicted Israel will lose this war, and deservedly so.
At the height of the hysteria during the build-up to Operation Desert Storm®, and in the jingoistic fever of the newly coined War on Terror®, Ritter claimed Saddam Hussein had zero Weapons of Mass Destruction®. Ritter was right back then, so, now, I pay attention whenever he addresses global tensions.
However, there are many others, including especially some Christians, who believe Israel cannot lose; and, today, as of this writing, The Jerusalem Post has predicted a truce.
Who is right?
I recently viewed a video posted on the Lew Rockwell website entitled: “Bad Theology: Israel, the “Rapture,” and the End Times” and the Bible scholar in that interview claimed modern Israel is a secular nation having nothing to do with Biblical Eschatology.
Of course, other Christians disagree with that conclusion and believe the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is still dealing with the nations of the world through Israel – and just before the return of Christ.
Apocalyptical interpretations, and misinterpretations, regarding modern Israel are concerning because people act upon what they believe… one way, or another. Hence the great divide today, as derived from historically ancient faiths; and why supporters of both Israel and Palestine/Gaza are protesting and rallying around the world.
In February 2019, I considered some of the potential interpretations of possible events in an article entitled “As the Games Begin…”:
Some… Christian Zionists believe the entire world would embrace the Psalm 83 war as the Book of Revelation’s “Armageddon” thus setting the stage for planet earth to accept a false messiah; like Islam’s Twelfth Imam, a Talmudic strongman, a fake return of Christ, or possibly even an outer-space alien (i.e. metaphysical demon / fallen angel) as all of the above – and delivering a false peace and prosperity thus fulfilling the “strong delusion” or “great deception” or “falling away” of the Bible’s 2nd Thessalonians, chapter 2, verses 3-12…
…Other Christians claim the Psalm 83 prophecy is credible because none of those nations are named in the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war when Russia, Iran, Turkey and other countries come against Israel or, even later, in the Sixth Trumpet War of Revelation 9 when the Kings of the East (China?) march up the Euphrates river to Israel in the battle just prior to Armageddon.
Crazy, no? Again, don’t kill the messenger. All of this is on the internet and, as some claim, in the Bible.
On the other side of the debate… many folks, including several bloggers and online commenters, believe modern Israel is the de facto “Synagogue of Satan” as referenced in the Bible’s Book of Revelation (Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9). These verses refer to those “who say they are Jews but are not”.
Correspondingly, a video at StopWorldControl.com about modern Israel, its early formation and sinister benefactors, is quite compelling – just not to those who believe a Psalms 83 War (paired with other Biblical prophecies) will result in the complete destruction of the following nations:
– Gaza (Philistia)
– Egypt (Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites + Isaiah 19:1-25)
– Jordan (Ammon & Amalek + Ezekiel 25 & Jerimiah 49:1-2)
– Iraq (Ammon & Amalek + Babylon in Jeremiah 50 & 51)
– Syria (Assyria & Hagrites + Isaiah 17:1 & Jeremiah 49:23-27)
– And, as some claim: “Gebal” and “Tyre” will be decimated prior to the conclusion of the Psalm 83 war – with these referring to modern Lebanon and southern Lebanon (Hezbollah), respectively, as well as Turkey.
But others argue Turkey (i.e. “Gomer”, “Meshek”, “Tubal”, & “Beth Togarmah”) won’t meet its fate until the later Ezekiel Chapters 38-39 War involving Russia (Rosh), Iran (Persia), Libya (Put), Ethiopia (Cush), and the Central Asian nations (Magog) including…but perhaps not limited to… Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan. I say “not limited to” because some interpreters include Afghanistan in the latter group and I’ve also seen Ukraine, the Baltics, and Eastern Europe included under “Gomer” as well.
Anyway, here is the point: Many Bible “scholars” believe ancient scriptures have predicted that modern Israel would defeat wave after wave of military attacks by other countries. First, the surrounding Psalm 83 nations, then, later, the Ezekiel 38-39 war, until, finally, the Sixth Trumpet War of Revelation 9 when the Kings of the East (China?) march up the Euphrates river to Israel in the battle just prior to Armageddon.
All of this, in accordance with other prophecies in the Bible, such as…
… I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
– Zechariah 12:2-3
And
And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.
– Amos 9:14-15
Around two weeks ago (as of this writing), Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, referenced Hamas in relation to an ancient tribe of people called “Amalek” in scripture. He said: “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.”
In the Bible’s book of 1st Samuel, in chapter 15, God commanded (Israel’s) King Saul to “go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass “
But, not wanting to be overly cruel, King Saul disobeyed God’s command and Israel was eventually given cause to kill others who didn’t deserve to die. This story, in fact, is said to have inspired the concept of “cruel to be kind” – thereby instilling this maxim into Jewish culture:
“To be lenient when you should be firm is to be cruel when you could be kind.”
Or, in other words: “He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate”.
Or, stated another way: “Destroying evil is perhaps the greatest act of kindness possible.”
Nonetheless, non-Zionist Christians (such as the Bible scholar in the above-embedded “Bad Theology” video/link), as well as pretty much all non-Christians, consider this type of Biblical parsing and cherry-picking of scripture to be completely ludicrous, if not insane; especially as the headlines rage:
Israeli Troops Fighting “In The Heart” Of Gaza City, Hamas Leader Surrounded In A Bunker
Turkey’s Erdogan: Whoever is on Israel’s side, we are against them
Iran Warns Of ‘Inevitable Expansion’ Of War After IDF Conducts Flag-Raising Ceremony In Gaza
US & Israel Poised to Open Lebanon Front:
Israel’s best chance of survival lies in expanding the scope of the war in Gaza into Lebanon — and possibly even into Syria — shoulder-to-shoulder with the Americans.
Will Israel defeat all challengers? Will Iran and the U.S. escalate the war in the Middle East? Will the Psalm 83 nations of “Gebal”, “the inhabitants of Tyre”, the “Hagrites” (i.e. Lebanon, South Lebanon / Hezbollah, and Syria, respectively), and the nation of Turkey, join the war?
Turkey is a member of NATO. How would that work?
I don’t have the answers to these questions. Yet. I am just a blogger sharing what I’ve read and viewed online.
But even if the Psalm 83 War came to pass in the days ahead, most of the world would surely call it a coincidence… or Armageddon… or claim it occurred as the result of a deceptive conspiracy using the Bible as a script.
Conversely, if peace suddenly broke out in the Middle East and World War III was narrowly averted, the prophecy experts will likely claim that Armageddon was delayed… but only for a while.
For how long? I guess we’ll see. Hence this time-stamped post.
“The Roar of the Street is getting louder – demanding that the Biden administration, now seen as complicit with Tel Aviv, halt the Israeli genocide that may lead to a World War. But Washington won’t.
Wars in Europe and West Asia may be its last chance.
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/why-the-us-needs-this-war-in-gaza
How about stopping the hamas terrorists from attacking Israel? That seems far more sensible and effective.
400 !
lol
Cracks me up. Although 100 of them were probaly mine and yours😉
500? Maybe……….
I vaguely remember something with me and Stucky, that’s the part I seem to remember by participation, that got over 500. I hope Stucky is well, knowing that time marches on and this crowd is not exactly young. Uncola and BL, you really did shit up this thread, and one of you had a point. So this a click-bait house now.
I’ll rake my uppers count against yours, RD. I had a point dammit. I thought you WERE Stucky……. Delta 9 gummies, get some.
Did you ever notice that no one even wants the so called Palestinians.
They were never a real nation more like squatters.
Their own arab neighbors don’t even want any of them.
Before Israel moved back into the area it was a complete crap hole. The Israelites completely restored the land and have caused it to flourish.
If the land was ever given to them it would end up like the modern day South Africa crap hole.
If my cowardly neighbor terrorists embedded themselves and their greater more powerful weapons amongst their own civilian population areas to conduct perpetual hit and run operations it would only be a matter of time before I bombed the living hell out of them all right back to the stone age.
They used to be called Philistines.
Hope you get this, Uncola…..this many comments always brings glitches for me
From 12 years ago….one of the wisest Biblical scholars,…
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum
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https://cointrackers.com/blog/41/what-does-annuit-coeptis-mean/
What Does Annuit Coeptis Mean?
“Annuit Coeptis” (or “Annuit cœptis”) can be translated several ways. The official translation, as given by the U.S. State Department, U.S. Mint, and U.S. Treasury, is “He (God) has favored our undertakings.” Other translations include “[He/She/It] favors our undertakings” or if using a painfully incorrect translation through a service like Google Translate, “Signals Enterprise.”
Individually, the words mean:
Annuit: “wink,” “nod,” or “approve”
Coeptis: “commencement,” “undertaking,” or “work”
Taken together, we get the understanding of the official meaning as applied by the U.S. federal government.
I’m leery of official meanings.
Why not explain it as it was understood and meant by the Founders?
Many of them believed God/Providence favored the creation of the Constitution and the government it created. Because Liberty and the ultimate value of each individual. Most believed God liked that sort of thing.
I do to.
I got it Ordo and listened while I did some other stuff. That discussion took place during Barry O’s first term and it’s all there as summarized in my article above: Psalm 83 war (with Israel’s surrounding neighbors), then Ezekial 38-39 war, Magog as Russia, plus persia/Iran, Ukraine, Tubal/Turkey, Central Asian nations, etc.
I didn’t know much about Missler so I researched him while listening. Interesting that he was an engineer and CEO of multiple companies. Surely his involvement in the U.S. defense industry will allow some here to claim he was just another (((player))). Can anyone ever truly know for sure? But if Missler was a double-agent, he would of had to of been one while professing his faith and salvation in Chrisr.
Interesting too, in that interview , how he said he would have died for America at one time, but no longer. He considered O’Barry (and those supporting him) as treasonous. And then admitted he had come to view national patriotism as a form of idol worship.
Missler also seemed to have a good grasp of other Bible scholars’ perspectives on Israel (regarding prophecy/eschatology) and was not shy about saying with whom he agreed and disagreed and why.
In interpreting scripture, he said one of three possible interpretations would allow for a nuclear exchange between the U.S. and Russia before the Psalm 83 war. That was a new one for me as I’d not seen that claim prior – but it is also quite paradoxical that Jeff Bezos’ Alexa has claimed that World War III starts in a few days:
Moreover, Missler claimed prophecy proves that the Psalm 83 nations would battle against Israel out of hatred, but that Israel will prosper after wiping out those countries. Then the Ezekial 38-39 nations will invade Israel for purposes of plundering wealth (after the Psalm 83 war and Israel’s ensuing prosperity).
Thanks for posting. As I concluded in my article above: “I guess we’ll see”.
Didn’t listen to but some of that and found it boring. For me good gospel preaching rather than concentrating on end times prophecy.
Couple of things he said was “all speculation” and not throwing “dates” out there.
Islam kills and it is OK. The Jews fight back and it’s genocide, are you folks f****** insane?
Nice ! And typical. Let’s tell mom and dad that little brother finally hit you, after you bullied him forever.
If the Chinese came to Florida, threw as many of you out as they could , and then ran the remainder into a crappy section of the lost coast, all-the-while blocking your trade and destroying any semblance of a decent life for you while killing you and yours with complete impunity any time they chose to, HOW LONG WOULD YOU LAST BEFORE YOU BECAME HOMICIDAL?
This is a false reconstruction of the beginning of the State of Israel.
You should be asking, how many times must we allow these people dedicated to annihilating us keep attacking our country?
You’ve chosen a side so it makes it difficult or impossible for you to see this issue clearly.
I have no dog in this hunt, so let me help you understand this as it appears to a neutral party.
No one here has ever said that it is “OK” to kill people, whether it is Islam (sic) doing it or the US.
In fact, unless you slept through the last two decades, we’ve killed one hell of a lot of Islamic people based on the complete lie that was 9/11.
To be fair it isn’t “Jews fighting back” it is a government and its military doing the fighting, using the Jews they should have been protecting as a cover for their current invasion.
As in the case of 9/11, Israel- its government and IDF- either completely failed to do the one thing a government and defense force should do for its people- protect them, or it deliberately allowed it to happen as a justification for the Gaza invasion. There are no other possibilities and as such whatever they are doing now is neither warranted, nor should it be up to them as failures/conspirators.
Anyone who sees this as joos fighting back most likely believes 9/11 was a attack by Arabs on the US. No offense to the bible thumpers but there’s nothing biblical about what the Israelis have done in Gaza since 10/07.
bible has lots of stuff like that in it
So what? That does not mean the Israelis are killing people under some righteous cause from God. Barbarous hordes killed lots of folks, was that biblical? Is it just a joo thing? White Anglos killed my native American ancestors,was there some biblical correlation for the red skins?
Israel is fighting another war to preserve it’s nation and it’s people.
Your ancestors treated other tribes the dame or worse. Let’s call that card useless.
You haven’t read the Bible?
I’m not taking sides but the State of Israel is a massive dupe on man and equally crazy as those Islam clowns. This is the Middle East part of the world, lunatics , but of course plenty lunatics in the good ole USA. I “respect” none of what I mentioned.
I can see my name on the list at Don’t Mess With Or Say Anything Negative About Israel Prison. Wal marts are gearing for the new prisons preparing all the FEMA basements that Alex Jones discovered while O Man was in office for those as myself.
I’m not taking sides either, but all of the Mexicans I’ve met were better people than Texans.
Just sayin’.
The Left’s perpetual narrative of “oppressor vs oppressed” has backfired. Israel has used America for decades, always hiding behind the veil of an “oppressed people”. Americans have been suckers for this holy land narrative up until last month. For the first time in the history of this nation we see Israel being treated like an oppressor by about 20% of the population in nearly every civilized nation. These are not traditional Christian Americans protesting Israel. These are the indoctrinated youth and other useful left wing idiots of America protesting.
Truth is its all an Israeli charade designed to extract as much money as possible from America. It just backfired this time and I would be willing to bet the reaction surprised the heck out of the Israeli powers that control Hamas. This self inflicted wound did not have the desired effect.
With Obama running the White House what did we expect? Most Americans would support Israel up to and including nuking other nations in the middle east. Obama hopes those nukes end Israel.
An in the middle of the noise Israel is trying now to steer the narrative so that the money flows to them once again from America.
Truth is, you aren’t at all convincing.
In Copan and Flannagan’s reconstruction, the Israelites decided that they needed to strike at this unique moment, or their entire identity would dissolve. This defence of the Israelites, ironically, increases rather than decreases the genocidal overtones of their (reconstructed) actions” (Kelley, Genocide, the Bible, and Biblical Scholarship, 38).
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14623528.2020.1827781
Wow, nothing new under the sun..
Who do you think is the real idea man, Copan or Flannagan?
HSF wrote above:
Neither do I have a dog in this fight. And, in my opinion, Hardscrabble is a voice of reason in that comment.
It does appear Israel let their guard down, seemingly, on purpose for reasons of a false flag (because it’s time) or a wag-the-dog scenario in order to benefit the elite clowns of the West and/or Benny N.
Supposedly, Egypt warned Israel before the attack and now it’s been claimed Israel has admitted it killed some of their own citizens at the Nova Music Festival on 10/7/2023.
Furthermore, as I have described in my article, and in the ensuing commentary, there are those who believe Israel is always justified because the Bible.
Additionally, and as revealed in the commentary of this post, some believe (((joos))) are evil magicians always casting spells on the goy… even to the point of equating Zionism to Satanism.
Ron Paul says Israel created Hamas and maybe so, because Ron is always right. Maybe it was political leverage to undermine the PLO or maybe for purposes of problem-reaction-solution dialectics… and perhaps the bankers polarized Hitler for the same reason – to create the jewish state in the middle east; or like Bush II vs. Saddam and Osama to achieve the Patriot Act; or Billy G. and Klaus and Tony, using Covid to lockdown and vaccinate the world
And can we really believe what we see on TV anymore, or, even, ever from the start?
As I mentioned in my previous article “As the Games Begin…” I refuse to conflate all Jews to what I have called the “Deep State, illuminati, luciferians, satanists, freemasons, round-table participants, neocons, and elite bankers.” Because, in my opinion, to conflate all Jews to these is to “throw the baby out with the bathwater”..
Jews versus the world is a polemic, rooted in fear, that furthers The Agenda of the Borg. It is why some commenters on this thread have accused me of “sitting on the fence” and called me “a troll”.
To be clear, when I play the advocate, it’s for purposes of discussion – and I utilize words like “apparently” and “seemingly” and “maybe”, et al, in my posts because no one really knows for sure; when we claim too, that’s called faith. This was the point of my article above: Belief/faith and acting upon what is believed.
Author and essayist Charles Eisenstein has posted an article that can be summarized as “Hate isn’t the only path”.
For anyone to discount what Eisenstein says in that article because he might be a Jew, is, in fact, in my opinion, throwing the “baby out with the bathwater” polemics.
In past articles, I have challenged Eisenstein’s seeming unwillingness to name the Eye of Horus in the middle of the Covid conspiracy “donut”.
And, years later, in another article, I acknowledged Eisenstein as challenging The Borg’s polemics regarding the vaccine tyranny.
But notice that I never arrogantly presumed his ideas were the result of him being a (((joo))).
And to those who might disparage Eisenstein, or me, as one of (((them))), what is a Jew, anyway? One who wears a kippah? One who frequents a synagogue? One whose mother descended from Jews?
Therefore, why throw “babies” like Eisenstein, or me, or civilian Israelis, or Arabs in Gaza, who all desire peace… out with the bathwater?
Instead, why don’t we keep our eyes on the real culprits (sans the ((( ))) ) and in spite of any respective DNA?
The Borg desires polemics.
Some believe Zionism is the result of the Synagogue of Satan. Some Bible experts, like Chuck Missler and others, have argued that prophecies are occurring now as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob continues to deal with the nations of the world through Israel.
Christians await the return of Jesus to establish a New Jerusalem on earth (Revelation 21). Arabs are awaiting the Twelfth Imam to establish a worldwide caliphate.
To some, (((joos))) are the virus. To others, a Zionist God is the vaccine.
These are the dynamics of faith. And these represent the reality of our day.
Personally, I can’t wait to see what happens next. In the meantime, I gotta go outside now to rake some leaves.
Thank you to all of the commenters who participated in what I told Hardscrabble (earlier in this thread) was a potential “asset toward the pursuit of common sense” or an “experiment in metaphysics”.
All arguments are rooted in theology. One way or another. I vote for peace. Other than that, as of right now, I don’t have much more to say about the violence in the Middle East.
Yes, the fact is is that some Jews, like those at the Grayzone, and first hand witnesses, have done some of the best work to give us a clearer picture (we hope) what happened and is happening in Palestine. There are many Jews who are just as appalled as anyone else about the treatment of Gaza, etc.
Uncola- Israel attacked their own people, what is this “Israel let their guard down” ?
War is hell, man. (now re-read the rest of that sentence)
Oh come on…….the proverbial cat has escaped the bag, it’s out there Unc and it’s time to face the truff, the whole truff and nuffin’ but the truff. They can’t even worm their way out of this one. Their mask fell off and was then run over by a semi.
I’d like for the State of Israel not to be able to worm their way out of this. Personally I contend some time will pass and all forgotten as some other world event will hold the masses captive to BS. With a US congress that is what, guessing 90% State of Israel duped and likely a majority of the worlds population, another dirty deed that come to pass not that peeps won’t remember although many won’t. It’s black friday week anyway. /s
Yep, the best thing would be for everyone to ignore Israel until they finish this latest war in a way that makes them secure.
Of course that won’t happen.
For me, your answer doesn’t clear up the obvious contradiction.
Probably all of you are wrong.
Uncola, never do you recognize the nature of Judaism by its own holy words and its own deeds, and yet you are aware of those words (e.g. Psalm 83) and deeds. We have belabored them. Moderate Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are nonsensical because Judaism and its offshoots are all about world conquest to create and end times of Jewish control of everything. Yahwah/Jehovah was/is a war god. It’s all right fucking there in the best documentation we have. You call the most credible documentation merely subjective theology. You insist every thought is religious, which is the insistence that Jews have home field advantage in everyone’s mind. You insist the TBP community shall accept some Jewish-friendly limits. What limits does Judaism have regarding non-Jews? How many more penises shall be sliced off day after day to conquer the world with degenerate debauchery?
You don’t get to define Jews willy-nilly and take a seat at the big table of intellectual discussion. By Jewish standards for Jews your expedient fluidity is certainly commendable, and by Western standards it is certainly not. You sold out, propagandist, or you simply took off the mask to spend your chummy credit. Did you learn your deconstruction technique at the feet or crotch of Derrida?
‘Reality’ Doug,
All of the comments you have typed into this thread have validated the observations I made in my above article.
Moreover, I realize your perspectives make the most sense to you and those who share your faith.
Therefore, it is perhaps fitting the word “reality” in your moniker is typed in quotations.
Thank you for proving the points of my article.
lmfao
Wonder what is more (or less) painful, lmfao or mfashotoff? joking
Could be a good subject though for the old SNL, Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey. Now that stuff right there, the old SNL , was something one might ltfao.
Right, the God of the Old Testament was jealous and vengeful, and didn’t mind helping his chosen tribe in the sacking of cities all the way to the Promised Land. War God isn’t far off.
What about Muhammad? He was a Prophet of Peace who urged his people to follow the teachings of Jesus.
How are they doing?
As far as I can see, Jews treat civilized people in a civilized fashion and aren’t too concerned about the religion of those civilized people.
I know this is wasted on a whack job like you.
Most Israelis just want to live in peace and get on with their lives, and perhaps they hoped the promises made by the terrorists would be kept. That is an incredibly foolish thing to think.